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Old January 9, 2010, 11:34 PM
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You don't have to convince us.

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Old January 10, 2010, 12:35 AM
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Did that make ya feel better abt yourself? I hope you have a good night's sleep knowing you tower over the former skipper.

OR

Thread opener is himself a shorty and is taking inspiration from Ashraful.

The latter applies to me, I surely hope u r not the former.
I am actually 5"9 so nop i dont have a height problem! but maybe u do...
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Old January 10, 2010, 02:34 AM
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nice pic kintu bangali public eto shada hoiche kemne? Billah bhai ki cream makhen ektu bolen...
fair & lovely nishchoi.
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Old January 10, 2010, 02:45 AM
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is that the one with the annoying ad "hi handchum! hi handchum!"
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Old January 10, 2010, 03:28 PM
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How tall is Ashraful?

Once in blue moon, he walks to be 8 feet or so.

But he is mostly 4.

In the final reckoning, i think we will walk to be a 5 or 5' 5". Atleast i hope.
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Old January 10, 2010, 04:07 PM
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Princeton Study Coorelates Height and Intelligence

Stature and Status: Height, Ability, and Labor Market Outcomes
Anne Case and Christina Paxson

Two Princeton economists recently produced a study that examines the correlation between height and intellectual capacity. It is commonly acknowledged that taller people hold jobs of higher status and usually make more than their shorter coworkers. Most previous studies conclude that discrimination, self esteem, and social dominance are the factors that contribute to the very real differences in outcome. The 52-page paper instead offers another hypothesis: "On average, taller people earn more because they are smarter....As adults, taller individuals are more likely to select into higher paying occupations that require more advanced verbal and numerical skills and greater intelligence, for which they earn handsome returns."

And as unsavory as this paper's conclusion may seem, it is not as brutally simplistic as it sounds. True, Case and Paxson do actually posit that height and intelligence are correlated. But more importantly, (and very easily ignored) it also stated that factors that affect adult height, such as malnutrition and in utero substance exposure, prevent, for lack of a better expression, full actualization of a person's potential. In short (no pun intended!), people associate taller people with less physical and psychological deprivation during childhood - deprivations that are empirically known to detrimentally affect a person's abilities. They also take pains to remove other variables from affecting their conclusions:

One possible explanation for these correlations is that taller children are provided with greater levels of cognitive stimulation at school. Teachers may pay more attention to taller children, or taller children may be more likely to be enrolled in school earlier than shorter children of the same age. However, evidence from other surveys indicates that the association between height and cognitive outcomes begins too early for this hypothesis to be plausible. For example, Rose (1994) finds that the length of 5- to 12-month-old infants is associated with measures of information processing speed.

The authors move on to explain that smarter adults tend to gravitate towards higher status fields that place more value on intelligence - which means prestigious professionals were advantaged developmentally, and are likely to be taller. They also briefly mention a study that tried to understand the perception of height in relation to status:

In another experiment, groups of college students were introduced to the same person...whose status was described differently to each group. On average, students perceived the confederate to be taller when he was introduced as a lecturer than as a fellow student, and even taller when introduced as a senior lecturer, and taller still when thought to be a professor (Wilson 1968). But this difference in perceived height reflects the reality that more successful academics are on average taller (Henley 1993), which may have led the students to statistically discriminate when judging the height of a ‘professor.’ Asked to identify “great” US Presidents and those who were “failures,” Americans single out significantly taller presidents as “great” relative to those mentioned as “failures” (Young and French 1996). Although the authors argue that this supports the self esteem hypothesis, it could also be that presidents who were identified as “great” were both tall and of superior intelligence, and that it is the latter to which their greatness is attributable.
Impressive and interesting as the study may be, I am disappointed that the two authors made no pains give us as readers many suggestions or cautionary notes in interpreting their study. Surely, if this was a study on the correlation of race and crime (with associated causal relations of socioeconomic factors), great efforts would be made to clearly state that determining potential criminality in an individual should not be affected by his race. Actually, even if it wasn't, we're well trained to immediately understand this (although, interestingly enough, not actually touched upon at all in this study). Sexism is also understood; the study does note that even controlling for height, women still make 17% less than their male counterparts. But heightism?

It's actually almost casually brushed aside. Case and Paxson mention that other studies hypothesize heightism (noted as "discrimination" in the paper) as a major factor in discrepancies in pay, but barely touch upon it themselves. They also mention that, when given the opportunity to do so, deprived children almost, but not completely, catch up with their taller peers in both physical and cognitive development. But what if the individual never has the opportunity to jump ahead cognitively? That is, after all, the reason that the college admissions process takes into account an individual's socioeconomic status and current potential opportunities when evaluating candidates.

Height bias is just not considered something worth quibbling with - and when you actually do, it's scoffed at and ignored. It's like a bad joke - surely you're kidding right? The reality is, short people do experience discrimination. The lack of public acknowledgement that it even exists only makes experiencing it worse. It's like the doctor telling you there's nothing wrong with you - it's all in your head. I would postulate that plenty of taller people would find the existence of sites like Short Persons Support to be completely ridiculous. After all, we're just overly sensitive right?

The release of a report like this without disclaimers is really a grave oversight - and dare I say, ethically questionable? The seriousness of the situation is clearly ignored. Kai Ryssdal even made it a joke about how he should be better paid because of his height - and this was the signoff to the popular NPR radio show Marketplace!

A couple of weeks ago, we told you about an interesting study we found. It said college-educated, left-handed men earn more than righties. I thought that was nice to hear, since I'm a lefty myself. Now, another piece of research in the same vein. Economists have long known that tall people make more than short people. The standard theory was that it had to do with social discrimination. But some economists at Princeton argue taller people . . . well, they're just smarter. So, they make more. Four inches in height gets them about 10 percent more in pay. Let's see. My boss is about 5-10 . . . I'm 6-1 . . . Yeah, I'm definitely asking for a raise.
I cringe at the interpretations of this study. Blogs have already picked up the sound bite. I will give Case and Paxson the benefit of the doubt - perhaps this study was not meant to surface to the light of day (and impatient media handlers). I doubt most of the bloggers have even read more than the Reuters piece (and not even all of it). I already see blogs like the Huffington Post ignoring the more detailed aspects of the study. As this blog states already, "Princeton economists say findings justify better pay for more height." Here's another off MySpace that has already spawned ridiculous comments along the lines of "I guess this means I'm stupid...." (yes, yes you are if you agree that this study makes you stupid)

I'll just be waiting for an enterprising short Princeton student to hang a mockery of a banner off the economics building screaming "Short people are dumber! Princeton professors inside say so!"

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Old January 10, 2010, 04:21 PM
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Interesting find peace...
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Old January 10, 2010, 07:29 PM
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Princeton Study Coorelates Height and Intelligence
Peace, you must then not be a single inch more than 4'10". Am I right?
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Old January 10, 2010, 07:31 PM
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He is the world's tallest midget
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Old January 10, 2010, 07:35 PM
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Peace, you must then not be a single inch more than 4'10". Am I right?
You may be right. In that case finding of Princeton Study is wrong!
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Old January 10, 2010, 08:17 PM
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He is the world's tallest midget
I know that some short people may get offended by my above link. It can be argued that the finding of Prenceton study has no concrete scientific evidence. So I urge all the people who consider themselves short not to show knee jerk reactions, after all, height is a subjective matter!
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I was amazed at how short Mushy is...he looked half the size of Tendy lol.
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Old January 17, 2010, 04:00 PM
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Mushy is 5'1, Ash is 5'5. Billah bhai, chatga aashen, height borabor hoye jabey.

P.S shathe kore apnar fair and lovely tao niye aashben.
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I'm probably taller than about 6/7 of the BD XI for this game (I'm 174cm)
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Old January 17, 2010, 04:39 PM
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I'm probably taller than about 6/7 of the BD XI for this game (I'm 174cm)
maybe they should replace you with someone in the team.
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Old January 17, 2010, 05:51 PM
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Assuming Tall equates better cricketer.
Let's see, Tendu has single handedly saved India throughout his cricketing career, imagine what would have happeed to India if they sat him our for a taller player? Take this game as an example, without Tendu, India probably would have been all out before 180.

As for Mushy, he is 5'1 and granted that he is not the best wicket keeper we have. However, have you seen him hit those sixers? How many sixer's have Athar Ali scored? He is pretty tall.

The Irish and most of the other associate sides are probably taller than us on average. You get the point.

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Not that it should matter as a batsman. he is not taller than 5'3". Mushy , at best, is 5'. They are very small.

By the way, on this very topic, the avergae height of the current Arsenal side is only 5'8". You would normally associate professional footballers to be around 6'. The average male height in Britain is 5'10". In Europe, the Dutch are the tallest - I don't know why !
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Assuming Tall equates better cricketer.
Let's see, Tendu has single handedly saved India throughout his cricketing career, imagine what would have happeed to India if they sat him our for a taller player? Take this game as an example, without Tendu, India probably would have been all out before 180.

As for Mushy, he is 5'1 and granted that he is not the best wicket keeper we have. However, have you seen him hit those sixers? How many sixer's have Athar Ali scored? He is pretty tall.

The Irish and most of the other associate sides are probably taller than us on average. You get the point.

(I realize you are kidding about replacing the poster)
yes, im kidding.
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I think Tamim Iqbal has the best physical built in our squad.
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I think Tamim Iqbal has the best physical built in our squad.
Yup him and Mahmudullah Riyad. (Ravi mentioned a lot about the latter being physically built.)
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Yup him and Mahmudullah Riyad. (Ravi mentioned a lot about the latter being physically built.)
Ooohhhooo....Really guys?!?!...Oh My goodness....!!!
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after that lightning quick stumping by mushy people should really get off his back.
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after that lightning quick stumping by mushy people should really get off his back.
mushy's good here and there. but sometimes the opportunity he misses are unbelievable.
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after that lightning quick stumping by mushy people should really get off his back.
He still gave away around 8 bye runs. One of em was off SAkib. Shakib bowled it to the batsmen who was beaten. Then the ball went to Mushy and hit his gloves and raced away to the boundary.
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This should help a bit. I added more pictures:
http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...php?albumid=32

Believe it or not, Jayasuria and I are the same height. I just don't have a picture to show it.
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