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Old June 26, 2005, 08:49 AM
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Athar Ali Khan saying that Omar played really well??what?? did he see a different game??





Edited on, June 27, 2005, 3:00 AM GMT, by reverse_swing.
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Old June 26, 2005, 08:54 AM
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Athar Ali Khan is a supporter of Javed Omar
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Old June 26, 2005, 09:01 AM
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Atahar and all old-timers of BD cricket will appreciate this Javed innings. Not surprising at all
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Old June 26, 2005, 09:09 AM
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Athar Ali Kahn saying that Omar played really well??what?? did he see a different game??
I just listening to him talking with nusser hussain.

He didnt say javed played well. He said - javed needed to score more runs, he played more than 150 deliveries. He started well, it was important for him to stay there as he did, but the last part of the innings, he should have scored more runs.
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Old June 26, 2005, 09:11 AM
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Dont blame Javed.....at least he anchored the Innings..better than rahter being allout 113/2.....139
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Old June 26, 2005, 09:26 AM
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Dont blame Javed.....at least he anchored the Innings..better than rahter being allout 113/2.....139
Do you know anything about ODi?? He played 150 balls thats 25 overs?? and scored 80 runs and the others played 150 and scored 128 of it.

??????
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Old June 26, 2005, 09:29 AM
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Dont blame Javed.....at least he anchored the Innings..better than rahter being allout 113/2.....139
Do you know anything about ODi?? He played 150 balls thats 25 overs?? and scored 80 runs and the others played 150 and scored 128 of it.

??????
I think what he is saying is he will be happy with two JO playing and scoring 160/2 in 50 overs than taking risk. Good for him. I would rather prefer 3 more hours of sleep instead.

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Old June 26, 2005, 09:31 AM
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Dont blame Javed.....at least he anchored the Innings..better than rahter being allout 113/2.....139
Do you know anything about ODi?? He played 150 balls thats 25 overs?? and scored 80 runs and the others played 150 and scored 128 of it.

??????
I think what he is saying is he will be happy with two JO playing and scoring 160/2 in 50 overs than taking risk. Good for him. I would rather prefer 3 more hours of sleep instead.

Edited on, June 26, 2005, 2:29 PM GMT, by Fazal.
so right..entertaining value of Omars innings is totally zero
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Old June 26, 2005, 09:35 AM
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Given the current state of BD cricket, we need players like JO to keep one side intact. Without his contribution we would be all out before 40 overs for sure.

If we can score >200 runs constantly against Australia and England, it will give us a big confidence for sure.

How many times we scored more than 200 against Australia or England so far?

Don't expect, BD will play cricket like Aussie or England at this moment.

Edited on, June 26, 2005, 2:42 PM GMT, by sports_fan_bd.
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Old June 26, 2005, 09:38 AM
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>> the others played 150 and scored 128 of it.

Make it 113 in 150 (the rest were extras).

You are assuming that multiplying it by two will give 226 in 50 overs, ignoring the fact that six top order batsmen got out at the other end. (113/150) * 2 will more be like 180 allout in 42.

Anyway, I guess I should leave the topic. I am being a little stupidly stubborn here
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Old June 26, 2005, 09:43 AM
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I agree with Tintin.Did you consider how many overs the rest of the top and middle order batted?You should factor that in to your calculation.
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Old June 26, 2005, 09:46 AM
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>> the others played 150 and scored 128 of it.

Make it 113 in 150 (the rest were extras).

You are assuming that multiplying it by two will give 226 in 50 overs, ignoring the fact that six top order batsmen got out at the other end. (113/150) * 2 will more be like 180 allout in 42.

Anyway, I guess I should leave the topic. I am being a little stupidly stubborn here
I am not saying that. Well we need somone to keeo the one end nut a got to admit that facing 150 and scoring 80 is pretty bad in ODI. Plus Aftab started to hit just becuase the pressure was getting too big and without Pilots winderful 42 from 43 bolls we would never have reached 200. Maybe you guys think that playing 50 overs and scoring around 160-170 is good. but i dont!
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Old June 26, 2005, 09:54 AM
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Given the current state of BD cricket, we need players like JO to keep one side intact. Without his contribution we would be all out before 40 overs for sure.

If we can score >200 runs constantly against Australia and England, it will give us a big confidence for sure.

How many times we scored more than 200 against Australia or England so far?

Don't expect, BD will play cricket like Aussie or England at this moment.

Edited on, June 26, 2005, 2:42 PM GMT, by sports_fan_bd.
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If our goal is only playing 50 overs without concering the run or a decent total then we are heading backwards. "200 is not a decent total in Todays ODI and specially not in a batting peech.

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Old June 26, 2005, 10:55 AM
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Basically what Javed did is good only if the person on the other side bats really well... Like Javed and Ashraful would be a good combination only if Javed can get the singles to give Ash the strike.
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Old June 26, 2005, 11:00 AM
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Basically what Javed did is good only if the person on the other side bats really well... Like Javed and Ashraful would be a good combination only if Javed can get the singles to give Ash the strike.
True but didnt u see tusar took that singles in the first boll of the over but then diidnt get back the strike.
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Old June 26, 2005, 12:07 PM
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To be honest I am not the admirer of Javed but I think what he has done in this tour I have nothing but salute for him. He has done tremendous job for our team. Well his style might not be good suited in oneday game but we need him badly in our team who can hold the one end of the crease. We have lots of good striking batsman in our team, however, hardly we'll find any purely defensive player. People should think twice before criticising javed. Just have a look in todays score board and see how much run been scored by our attacking batsman? I think today's two top scorer javed and masud both are defensive player and helped to scored a respectable total.
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Old June 26, 2005, 12:16 PM
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Athar Ali Kahn saying that Omar played really well??what?? did he see a different game??
I just listening to him talking with nusser hussain.

He didnt say javed played well. He said - javed needed to score more runs, he played more than 150 deliveries. He started well, it was important for him to stay there as he did, but the last part of the innings, he should have scored more runs.
Agree...... If you are picking just few words from his statement then it might appear that he is saying that JO played just perfect, but its not fair to just pick few words, is it?
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Old June 26, 2005, 02:53 PM
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Dont blame Javed.....at least he anchored the Innings..better than rahter being allout 113/2.....139
Exactly.
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Old June 26, 2005, 03:25 PM
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I believe, after being bowled out for meager 139 runs while 15 overs left still to bat against Assuie in the last match, Javed's role was prevent the same collapse in this match. He has done his duty.

Please remember the contribution of Javed in the history making match against Aussie that we have won, apart from Ashraful's brilliant contribution. So, we should not make him sole culprit.

Javed has limitations, so does every batsman in our team. He knows it. He has really worked out for them. I believe, he will also work out for the striking rotation. I dont like his batting in ODIs. Its really boring. But I always admire him for one thing, he always tries to adjust him to the conditions. I am sure he will amend those things.
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Old June 26, 2005, 03:27 PM
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To be honest I am not the admirer of Javed but I think what he has done in this tour I have nothing but salute for him. ....................... I think today's two top scorer javed and masud both are defensive player and helped to scored a respectable total.

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Old June 26, 2005, 03:31 PM
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Even if Masud can score freely (42 from 43) in JO's presence under more pressure than the other stroke makers, then it is hard to blame JO solely. Please give him his proper respect and then criti_size him afterwards.

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Old June 26, 2005, 03:52 PM
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We should clone Javed to 11 times and make a wonderful test team!!
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Old June 26, 2005, 09:43 PM
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He said Javed should dispatched the short balls on the legside. There were a few according to the Hawkeye and on most occasion Javed played a defensive shot.
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Old June 26, 2005, 10:51 PM
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We should clone Javed to 11 times and make a wonderful test team!!
And if we have clone of 11 Javeds for one day, that will be great.

Why not have clone of 11 Javeds for 20-20 ? It will be 20-20-20 in that case. I mean 20 runs in 20 overs. That will be superb

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