Any reasons and answers to the fall of Bangladesh cricket?

[HereWeGo]

The fall is just temporary...I do see a good comeback possibly in the next series....

Reasons for fall

1) Jamie Siddons had no idea abt our players.
2) Our best bowler Rafiq retired
3) Selection blunders- (players like Mehrab jr and Dollar never deserved to be on the side)
4) We never had the best 11 playing in a match- There was always a major player missing- either aftab, shakib or rasel etc

I am optimistic because
1) Alok is back in form
2) Our main containment bowler and a major batsmen in the form of sakib will be back
3) Aftab will be back
4) Rasel MIGHT be back
5) Overall we will get the bes 12 players in the field for the first time hopefully next series.
JoiBangla

[AsifTheManRahman]

It's a function of multiple variables.

Back then we had a captain who was a good manager but a bad tactician; now we have a captain who is an idiot when it comes to soft skills, understands the game pretty well but is a bad executer.

Back then we had a coach who had been with the team for a fair amount of time; now we have one that is relatively new and his clueless approach in certain cases doesn't help either.

Back then the world didn't know what the heck T20 was. Now that they do, they are making vindaloo, paratha gosht, spaghetti meatballs, a variety of dairy products, idli, fish 'n chips, koeksisters and beef jerky out of us while all we manage to do is salvage a practice bowler's spot for the big boys in the nets at Bangalore.

Back then we were fresh from beating the heck out of minnows for a period spanning a year. Now, we are fresh from being made into all the food products mentioned above.

Back then, we had better selectors.

[akabir77]

how is it making a single 100 in a flattest of wicket makes a player back in form?

None of our player can play if the ball can move a single MM or if it bounces. Until they can play those balls we will be getting beaten like this all the time...

[Kabir]

Answer: Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall, Humpty Dumpty had a great fall

[pappiok]

we didn't play good in asia cup because............
1)bad bowling perfomence from Doller, shahadat,mashrafe and razzak(last 3 matches)
2)no syed rassel
3)no aftab(injury)
4)no saqibul(academic Exam) but i will say he is the one off the best player in bangladesh without any doubt.
5)bad fielding
6)umpire decision
7)playing nazim in every matches
i think for the series in Australia in august/september the team sould be like this.....
1)ASHRAFUL (SHOULD BE IN THE STARTING 11)
2)MASHRAFE (SHOULD BE IN THE STARTING 11)
3)SAQIBUL HASSAN (SHOULD BE IN THE SRARTING 11)
4)TAMIM IQBAL (SHOULD BE IN THE SRARTING 11)
5)RAQIBUL HASSAN (SHOULD BE IN THE SRARTING 11)
6)MUSHFIQUER RAHIM (SHOULD BE IN THE SRARTING 11)
7)ABDUR RAZZAK (SHOULD BE IN THE SRARTING 11)
8)SYED RASSEL (SHOULD BE IN THE SRARTING 11)
9)SHAHADAT HOSSAIN (NOT SURE)
10)SHARIAR NAFIS (SHOULD BE IN THE SRARTING 11)
11)AFTAB AHMED (NOT SURE)
12)ALOK KAPALI (NOT SURE)
13)MUHAMMUDULLAH RIYAD (SHOULDN'T BE IN THE STATING 11)
14)FARHAD REZA (NOT SURE)
15)NAZMUL HOSSAIN (NOT SURE-BETTER THAN SHAHADAT IN ODI'S) IM QUITE SURE THAT NAZMUL WILL BE IN THE TEAM BECAUSE IN AUSTRALIA THE PITCH IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENCE THAN SUB-CONTINENT COUNTRIES. REMEMBER GUYS BE4 THE ASIA CUP SELECTOR SAID NAZMUL WAS THEIR 1ST CHOICE BUT THEY DIDN'T PICK HIM BECAUSE OF HIS INJURY.

IM ALSO 100 PERCENT SURE NAZIMUDDIN, MEHRAB JR , DOLLAR AND MOSSAROF WILL NOTBE SELECTED FOR THE TOUR OF AUSTRALIA

THEIR WILL BE A FIGHT BETWEEN AFTAB AND ALOK FOR THEIR PLACE......LOL...THAT'S TRUE......
MY 11 WOULD BE.....
1) TAMIM
2)NAFIS
3)ASHRAFUL(CAPTAIN)
4)RAQIBUL
5)SAQIBUL
6)AFTAB OR ALOK (WHOEVER WIN THE FIGHT BETWEEN THEM)
7)RAHIM
8)MASHRAFE
9)RAZZAK
10)NAZMUL( CAN BAT AGGRESIVELY....GOT A HUNDRED IN ONEDAY)
11)RASSEL

[israr]

Originally Posted by HereWeGo
The fall is just temporary...I do see a good comeback possibly in the next series....

Reasons for fall

1) Jamie Siddons had no idea abt our players.
2) Our best bowler Rafiq retired
3) Selection blunders- (players like Mehrab jr and Dollar never deserved to be on the side)
4) We never had the best 11 playing in a match- There was always a major player missing- either aftab, shakib or rasel etc

I am optimistic because
1) Alok is back in form
2) Our main containment bowler and a major batsmen in the form of sakib will be back
3) Aftab will be back
4) Rasel MIGHT be back
5) Overall we will get the bes 12 players in the field for the first time hopefully next series.
JoiBangla

Very good bro, very good. Appreciate your positivity.

[Umar]

when was the rise again ?

[bharat]

BD needs a good and competitive First class set up.Until that is done they should play the Ranji.I thought the reason for dropping out of the Ranji trophy was too short sighted.Sending A teams around the world will help too, but what BD needs is a league that it can compete and test its younsters not throw this kids to the wolves of international cricket
Without quality opposition during the formative years (19 -23) you cannot expect the players to perform in Internationals.

The members in this forums were angry at IPL for not selecting BD palyers ..but IPL would've helped only a few (if a all) but Ranji I think is a goldmine that BD is ignoring for flimsy short sighted reasons.

[Eshen]

Originally Posted by bharat
I thought the reason for dropping out of the Ranji trophy was too short sighted.

But no Bangladeshi team ever played in Ranji !

[smashyboy]

Originally Posted by bharat
BD needs a good and competitive First class set up.Until that is done they should play the Ranji.I thought the reason for dropping out of the Ranji trophy was too short sighted.Sending A teams around the world will help too, but what BD needs is a league that it can compete and test its younsters not throw this kids to the wolves of international cricket
Without quality opposition during the formative years (19 -23) you cannot expect the players to perform in Internationals.

The members in this forums were angry at IPL for not selecting BD palyers ..but IPL would've helped only a few (if a all) but Ranji I think is a goldmine that BD is ignoring for flimsy short sighted reasons.

Most of the Ranji teams are much stronger than Bangladesh. Not sure about Ranji. But there are tournaments where Srilanka, England A team have participated.

[bharat]

I ment Duleep Trophy ..my bad.

England sends an A team too there.

[Eshen]

Originally Posted by bharat
I ment Duleep Trophy ..my bad.

England sends an A team too there.

Well, BCCI never again invited us to participate in that tourny (after 2005), it was not BCB's choice.

[cricman]

Originally Posted by Eshen
Well, BCCI never again invited us to participate in that tourny (after 2005), it was not BCB's choice.

After you embarrass the the event you don't deserve to come back, Sending such a young side to get thrashed by top Indian FC sides.

Watch this A side get thrasehed by the English sides and SA might win the Warm Up match in one day, send the full Nat'l side It's obvious the NCL group aren't ready Naeem Islam included couldn't even beat an Irish side that got thrashed.

For 4dayers

Tamim Iqbal
Shahriar Nafees/Juniad Siddique
Mohammed Ashraful
Habibul Bashar
Raqibul Hasan
Aftab Ahmed
Mushifiq Rahim
Abdur Razzak/Spinner
Mashrafe Mortaza
Shahadat Hossian
Syed Rasel

Let the them as a group get used to winning, It's sad when posters have more brain than the incompetency of team management

[Niceman70]

the problem is the mindset..ashraful said he played good cricket in an interview on friday. someone need to tell him he still average at 22.

[smashyboy]

I really like to know where it fell from .. Probably 1 feet?

[Dhruvo]

We have lots of problems:
1:Lack of motivation by the team coach,resulting in a heart broken team
2:Lack of maturity by our players resulting in really poor matches
3:Bad fielding making it easy for teams to go above 300
4:The find positives from every match even if we lose attitude
5:Bad selection from the selectors resulting in big loses (yes one player can make a huge difference)
6:The once in a lifetime centuries don't win matches for us consistently
7:And bad team chemistry .

[Sadz]

Dhrubo I agree with you with all of them surprisingly and don't forgot immature captaincy

[sandpiper]

yeah.... exactly. But some teams use to fall from 1000 ft

Originally Posted by smashyboy
I really like to know where it fell from .. Probably 1 feet?

[crikfreak]

there are many reasons for the downfall:
1. new coach who was only ever an assistent coach before this.. and he's relatively new
2. new and young captain.. who doesn't understand stuff
3. kicking out old and experienced players and replacing them with youngsters who came from god knows where..(and i'm not just talking about rasel)
4. new selectors who fail to select the right bunch of guys all most everytime
5. a player like rafique retiring
6. poor fielding
7. poor bowling performances from main bowlers
8. sometimes harsh umpiring decisions
9. negative mindset of the players thanks to the coach's constant negative prodding
10. too many youngsters in the team.. the oldest player in out team rite now is only 26..
11. lack of experience and maturity

[DotBall]

yeah, it has only been 8 years since we got the test status, wait another 7 years...

[Pundit]

Originally Posted by bharat
BD needs a good and competitive First class set up.Until that is done they should play the Ranji.I thought the reason for dropping out of the Ranji trophy was too short sighted.Sending A teams around the world will help too, but what BD needs is a league that it can compete and test its younsters not throw this kids to the wolves of international cricket
Without quality opposition during the formative years (19 -23) you cannot expect the players to perform in Internationals.

The members in this forums were angry at IPL for not selecting BD palyers ..but IPL would've helped only a few (if a all) but Ranji I think is a goldmine that BD is ignoring for flimsy short sighted reasons.

Frankly speaking, I don't see Bengalis being the competitive type. I have run across some Bengalis at work - no poise in general. The BUET type folks I have run across in life are real smart - but they lack ambition and vision in regards to career development.

Upbringing is an issue, and so is lack of confidence.

[Electrequiem]

I am sorry, but the bit about Alok being back in form made me laugh. Honestly, we are satisfied too easily...which is the last thing we want to be in today's world of unrestrained competition.

[smashyboy]

Originally Posted by cricman
After you embarrass the the event you don't deserve to come back, Sending such a young side to get thrashed by top Indian FC sides.

Watch this A side get thrasehed by the English sides and SA might win the Warm Up match in one day, send the full Nat'l side It's obvious the NCL group aren't ready Naeem Islam included couldn't even beat an Irish side that got thrashed.

For 4dayers

Tamim Iqbal
Shahriar Nafees/Juniad Siddique
Mohammed Ashraful
Habibul Bashar
Raqibul Hasan
Aftab Ahmed
Mushifiq Rahim
Abdur Razzak/Spinner
Mashrafe Mortaza
Shahadat Hossian
Syed Rasel

Let the them as a group get used to winning, It's sad when posters have more brain than the incompetency of team management

BD has to realize atleast a dozen first class teams are better than Bangladesh national team. So it is pointless to send the A team there. In the international match pressure is too much. In the first class match there won't be pressure but you will have same competitiveness. Once they get used to playing alongside such players you will have the confidence how to handle the real international teams.

[BANFAN]

JS is your answer to the prblenm part.

Some dumb people with shallow vision; will keep blaming Bangali's in generalized terms and Keep praising useless white A@@es till eternity. They will accept a ban on bangladesh Cric gladly as a natural outcome due to racial incompetence and criticize Bangali's lack of ambitions. Pointing fingure to a white man's mistake makes them agonizingly upset but they don't mind saying that Bangalis are incompetent to be competitive. I can only feel bad for these HMVs.

No points arguing with people of such description, wait for it to be proven.

[sbsash]

Originally Posted by pappiok
we didn't play good in asia cup because............
1)bad bowling perfomence from Doller, shahadat,mashrafe and razzak(last 3 matches)
2)no syed rassel
3)no aftab(injury)
4)no saqibul(academic Exam) but i will say he is the one off the best player in bangladesh without any doubt.
5)bad fielding
6)umpire decision
7)playing nazim in every matches
i think for the series in Australia in august/september the team sould be like this.....
1)ASHRAFUL (SHOULD BE IN THE STARTING 11)
2)MASHRAFE (SHOULD BE IN THE STARTING 11)
3)SAQIBUL HASSAN (SHOULD BE IN THE SRARTING 11)
4)TAMIM IQBAL (SHOULD BE IN THE SRARTING 11)
5)RAQIBUL HASSAN (SHOULD BE IN THE SRARTING 11)
6)MUSHFIQUER RAHIM (SHOULD BE IN THE SRARTING 11)
7)ABDUR RAZZAK (SHOULD BE IN THE SRARTING 11)
8)SYED RASSEL (SHOULD BE IN THE SRARTING 11)
9)SHAHADAT HOSSAIN (NOT SURE)
10)SHARIAR NAFIS (SHOULD BE IN THE SRARTING 11)
11)AFTAB AHMED (NOT SURE)
12)ALOK KAPALI (NOT SURE)
13)MUHAMMUDULLAH RIYAD (SHOULDN'T BE IN THE STATING 11)
14)FARHAD REZA (NOT SURE)
15)NAZMUL HOSSAIN (NOT SURE-BETTER THAN SHAHADAT IN ODI'S) IM QUITE SURE THAT NAZMUL WILL BE IN THE TEAM BECAUSE IN AUSTRALIA THE PITCH IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENCE THAN SUB-CONTINENT COUNTRIES. REMEMBER GUYS BE4 THE ASIA CUP SELECTOR SAID NAZMUL WAS THEIR 1ST CHOICE BUT THEY DIDN'T PICK HIM BECAUSE OF HIS INJURY.

IM ALSO 100 PERCENT SURE NAZIMUDDIN, MEHRAB JR , DOLLAR AND MOSSAROF WILL NOTBE SELECTED FOR THE TOUR OF AUSTRALIA

THEIR WILL BE A FIGHT BETWEEN AFTAB AND ALOK FOR THEIR PLACE......LOL...THAT'S TRUE......
MY 11 WOULD BE.....
1) TAMIM
2)NAFIS
3)ASHRAFUL(CAPTAIN)
4)RAQIBUL
5)SAQIBUL
6)AFTAB OR ALOK (WHOEVER WIN THE FIGHT BETWEEN THEM)
7)RAHIM
8)MASHRAFE
9)RAZZAK
10)NAZMUL( CAN BAT AGGRESIVELY....GOT A HUNDRED IN ONEDAY)
11)RASSEL

I don't think they should take Nafees,because he is not good against the good teams and for Nafees, they should put Mushfiq,Aftab or Alok to open.