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Old June 19, 2007, 06:57 AM
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Default Kenya hoping to stage Twenty20 warm-ups : Pakistan and Bangladesh interested

A good move by Kenya and BCB is prompt to grab the opportunity.

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Kenya hoping to stage Twenty20 warm-ups
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June 19, 2007
Cricket Kenya is hoping to stage some international Twenty20 matches in Nairobi in early September in the build-up to the Twenty20 World Championships in South Africa.
Samir Inamdar, Cricket Kenya's chairman, told Cricinfo that Pakistan had said they were very keen to play and Bangladesh were also interested. West Indies had also been invited but there is still speculation that they will play their warm-ups in Canada.
With the World Championships starting in the second week of September, a number of sides who are not overly familiar with the format are keen to get as much experience as possible.
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Old June 19, 2007, 07:46 AM
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As much as I despise 20/20 ... this is a great idea. We actually have a chance to win the title once the right team is selected, and prepared through tournaments like this one. My 20/20 side:

1. Tamim Iqbal (Bat-Field).
2. Junaid Siddique (Bat-Field).
3. Shakib Al Hasan (Bat-Bowl-Field).
4. Md. Ashraful, Captain (Bat-Field-Bowl).
5. Alok Kapali (Bat-Field-Bowl).
6. Aftab Ahmed (Bat-Field-Bowl).
7. Mushfiqur Rahim (WK-Bat).
8. Mashrafe Bin Murtaza, Vice Captain (Bowl-Bat).
9. Md. Rafique (Bowl-Bat).
10. Tapash Baisya (Bowl-Bat).
11. Shahadat Hossain (Bowl).

12th Man: Abdur Razzak (Bowl-Field-Bat).

Reserves: Farhad Reza (Bat-Field-Bowl), Rajin Saleh (Bat-Field-Bowl), Nafees Iqbal (Bat-Field), Shahriar Nafees (Bat), and Dhiman Ghosh (Extra WK-Bat-Field-Bowl).

Shahriar Nafees should play against Kenya.
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Old June 19, 2007, 09:06 AM
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20-20s are indeed a basterdized form of the game, and while we have our best shot at a title, we are still far behind other top teams. yes it levels the playing field and it would be nice to win, but whatever.

the good thing is that no target is too large for us with tamim, aftab, ash and mashrafee in our side.

on second thought, i guess we have had a top 4 20-20 side for a couple of years now.
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Old June 19, 2007, 09:13 AM
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... on second thought, i guess we have had a top 4 20-20 side for a couple of years now.
Well observed bro ...
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Old June 19, 2007, 09:46 AM
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12th Man: Abdur Razzak (Bowl-Field-Bat).

Razzak 12th man??.......He is by far the best spin bowler in 20-20.He along with Sreesanth and Agrakar are the only bowlers to bowl a maiden in 20-20.
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Old June 19, 2007, 09:49 AM
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Razzak 12th man??.......He is by far the best spin bowler in 20-20.He along with Sreesanth and Agrakar are the only bowlers to bowl a maiden in 20-20.
20/20 "cricket" is all about batting, hence Tapash instead of Razz.
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Old June 19, 2007, 10:08 AM
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Good idea:
This would be my 11 for the Twenty/20

1. Nazmus Sadat (SLA)
2. Tamim Iqbal
3. Zunaid
4. Aftab (Medium pace if necessary)
5. Ash
6. Sakib (SLA)
7. Mushfiq
8. Mash
9. M Rafiq (SLA)
10. Abdur Razzak (SLA)
11. Rasel

For 10 and 11 I don't think batting is an issue. It is only a 20 over match. If the top 9 can't stick around that long then we would not win the match anyways. Bowling wise Both Abdur Razzak and Rasel are better than who ever is next in line. May be Farhad can get a chance if some one is injured.

This lineup has enough bowling options also.
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Old June 19, 2007, 10:22 AM
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T_E i think we have another aggressive keeper and i would go with him but rest looks good... one thing to remember how we played against Australia in that WC match
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Old June 19, 2007, 10:40 AM
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Good idea:
This would be my 11 for the Twenty/20

1. Nazmus Sadat (SLA)
2. Tamim Iqbal
3. Zunaid
4. Aftab (Medium pace if necessary)
5. Ash
6. Sakib (SLA)
7. Mushfiq
8. Mash
9. M Rafiq (SLA)
10. Abdur Razzak (SLA)
11. Rasel
For 20-20 u ll need another medium pacer. Two wont be enough IMO. So, may be N Sadat or Zunaid will lose his place to FARHAD.
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Old June 19, 2007, 10:44 AM
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T_E i think we have another aggressive keeper and i would go with him but rest looks good... one thing to remember how we played against Australia in that WC match
If i understand you correctly then we would be better off having Tushar as a keeper? Since we do not have a Twenty/20 league there is no reason to test another WK/batsman in place of Mushfiq at this point.

BTW, Mushfiq can have over 100 SR. The WC game against Australia (21 overs) he was doing fine. It was the other end that wasn't producing enough runs.
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Old June 19, 2007, 10:45 AM
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For 20-20 u ll need another medium pacer. Two wont be enough IMO. So, may be N Sadat or Zunaid will lose his place to FARHAD.
Aftab can five you the 2 overs as the third seamer. The two you mentioned are my two main corner stone players. I can't replace them.
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no i didn't mean tusher. there was another guy in NCL or some place did pretty well. who i think much better keeper than mushfiq and in 20-20 u don't need experience or dig in capability to get the team out of a hole or some thing, so i was thinking of picking him shagir or something...
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Old June 19, 2007, 10:51 AM
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Aftab can five you the 2 overs as the third seamer. The two you mentioned are my two main corner stone players. I can't replace them.
It can be very costly two overs. In my team I ll fit FARHAD or TAPOSH as a third seamer, when it comes to 20-20. Otherwise, the team you picked is same as I would go with.
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Razzak 12th man??.......He is by far the best spin bowler in 20-20.He along with Sreesanth and Agrakar are the only bowlers to bowl a maiden in 20-20.
yeah, razzak should definitely play. i'm not too sure about taposh - the guy can sure bat, but he gets battered in odi's, let alone 20-20's.
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no i didn't mean tusher. there was another guy in NCL or some place did pretty well. who i think much better keeper than mushfiq and in 20-20 u don't need experience or dig in capability to get the team out of a hole or some thing, so i was thinking of picking him shagir or something...
saghir hossain *could* just be a better option for a keeper.
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20/20 "cricket" is all about batting, hence Tapash instead of Razz.
whats that alok doin in ur 20/20 team?? hes not a hard hitter.. hes slow.... there are plenty of great stroke players in the academy/A team..
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whats that alok doin in ur 20/20 team?? hes not a hard hitter.. hes slow.... there are plenty of great stroke players in the academy/A team..
To give loppa ball or long hops during bowling.

If he is on song, he can strike the ball quite cleanly.
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To give loppa ball or long hops during bowling.

If he is on song, he can strike the ball quite cleanly.
loppa ball?? oida abar kemon ball Miraz bhai??

the thin is IF hes on song.. but i never seen him on song.. everyone says hes so talented but never seen him showing his talent...
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Even in 3020 AD team shohel NR will still have kapali in his team...
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Good move by Kenya, and nice to see Pakistan is interested. Like it or not, we suck in 20/20 due to very little experience. So we should grab any opportunity to play warm-up matches ahead of the 20/20 WC.
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20/20 "cricket" is all about batting, hence Tapash instead of Razz.
I am sure u have missed the bowling of Razz in the AFRO ASIA 20-20. If you have seen his bowling u can not overlook that Event. Should be given chance in your final 11 to make his performance a continuous Process.
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Like it or not, we suck in 20/20 due to very little experience. So we should grab any opportunity to play warm-up matches ahead of the 20/20 WC.
HB, how can you say that?

We played only one Twenty20 and won the match comprehensively. Our boys showed well for the Asia XI.

IMO, it's a bit overstatement.
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HB, how can you say that?

We played only one Twenty20 and won the match comprehensively. Our boys showed well for the Asia XI.

IMO, it's a bit overstatement.
That was against Zimbabwe, and I meant to say a shortened version of the game. We have a fighting chance by playing full 50 overs, but if overs are reduced then our inexperience to deal with the situation really shows up.

Oh and our boys did well, but they played with other top international players against a very lackluster African side.
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That was against Zimbabwe, and I meant to say a shortened version of the game. We have a fighting chance by playing full 50 overs, but if overs are reduced then our inexperience to deal with the situation really shows up.

Oh and our boys did well, but they played with other top international players against a very lackluster African side.
you are right.. and i think if we play some warm up matches in kenya would help our team to understand the game...
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Good idea. Since we are participating, it is prudent to practice and practice well to learn the tricks. 20/20 sounds limited, but in reality, its a lot of overs and if we can learn to play it the right way with a fixed target on mind, it can help us to be better at 50 over games. Getting off to a flying start is all the difference between winning and losing one day games. Teams that do well in the initial 15 overs already gets a leg up when the restrictions are over and they can just milk the runs in the middle overs. Last eight-ten overs in ODI's are tricky. Sometimes you can add a lot of runs if you have wkts in hand or you can fall flat if you don't have enough batsmen by then. Its hit or miss trick really. In any case, 20/20 should help us to learn how to manage good run rates. Good showing in 20/20's will actually help us get better understanding of 50 over matches initial power play periods. We should approach it that way and make sure we play all 20 overs and a recgonized batsmen stay till the end.

My line up :
1 Tamim 2 SN ( won't lose faith in him yet. when in form, he can put away the bad balls as easily as anyone) 3 Aftab ( he plays in ODIs at no.3 and stays there ) 4 Ash ( I want him to play as many balls as he can and he can play reasonably well when the restrictions are over. yes..20/20 has field restrictions too ) 5 Sakib ( all rounder, sensible bat and will assume the role of the steady hand in case of collapse ) 6 Rahim 7 Mash 8 Rafiq 9 Raz 10 Rasel 11 Shahdat.

Hitters like Mash can be promoted if we already have a good score up and not many overs left. I am gonna go with one less batsmen. If the first five can't play 20 overs, its a losing cause anyway. You need more variety in bowlers as it is a batsmen's game,and we should go with three pacers, three spinners..
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