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Old November 5, 2016, 03:39 AM
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Default Spread The Word(Petition): Drop Shuvagata Hom and Shafiul islam from Bangladesh's preparatory squad for New Zealand tour

Guests,Members and Lurkers, we need your voice to be heard, to deliever this petition to the BCB, to drop deadweights Hom and Shafiul From the team and force BCB to pick-up Nasir, Al-Amin Hossain and Rubel Hossain, three players who have had key moments in Bangladesh`s recent success. Please share this on facebook,instagram or twitter


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Old November 5, 2016, 03:45 AM
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**** yes! I was beginning to feel invisible, but I guess someone heard! Thank you!

Let's make it a little professional by fixing some of the obvious grammar issues, mentioning about weak links in the previous which lead us to essentially playing with 9 players against 11 to highlight the fact that selectors are going crazy for a while now.

And mention the fact that All of these 3 Hossains were part of the CWC squad that went to Aus/NZ and had a successful run!

Please also start posting on Mash's page
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Old November 5, 2016, 03:50 AM
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**** yes! I was beginning to feel invisible, but I guess someone heard! Thank you!

Let's make it a little professional by fixing some of the obvious grammar issues, mentioning about weak links in the previous which lead us to essentially playing with 9 players against 11 to highlight the fact that selectors are going crazy for a while now.

And mention the fact that All of these 3 Hossains were part of the CWC squad that went to Aus/NZ and had a successful run!

Please also start posting on Mash's page
Can you do it, cause, i don`t want to use my facebook profile,

I already posted it on Bangladesh Troll cricket and Troll cricket bangladesh
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Old November 5, 2016, 03:51 AM
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can u edit it aswell

Please, and tell me what errors cause it looked pretty fine to me
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Old November 5, 2016, 04:02 AM
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should i change title to:

Drop Hom and Shafiul from prepartory squad to NZ
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Old November 5, 2016, 04:15 AM
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It is truly peculiar how players like Shuvagata Hom and Shafiul Islam are getting free rides to such an important series in New Zealand, Shuvagata Hom averages less than 30 in List A, and has failed to make a mark in international cricket as an all rounder. To top it all of he is playing in New Zealand, conditions which are absolutely deadly for spin bowlers. With the inclusion of Shakib Al Hasan and Mehedi Hasan , it is absolutely stupid, to consider a third spinner, in a pace friendly environment. That is why I believe that Shuvagata Hom should be nowhere near the current Bangladesh Side and should be replaced with either Nasir Hossain, a proven All-rounder who is efficient with both bat(HS of 100 in ODIs) and ball(3/30 Vs SA) or Al-Amin Hossain, a deadly fast bowler, who is ranked 15th in the ICC T20I rankings and was in the Top 5 once. Al-Amin Hossain wicket taking ability will make him a vital contributor to the Side in both T20I or ODIs. Shuvagata struggled to perform in the First and Second Test Matches against England, in a TURNING PITCH!, he was not able to pick-up a single wicket on a pitch that assists spin bowlers, surely he does not belong in the side, he can neither score runs or take wickets.

Secondly, Shafiul Islam also needs to be dropped from the squad, he is simply not fast bowling material for Bangladesh.In fact, after bowling only a handful of overs in the First Test match, he got tired and chose the ''rest'' the series, Rubel Hossain would be a much more effective chance to accompany the pace attack of Bangladesh, his performance against New Zealand are impeccable, with him taking a hat trick and best figures of 6/26, not to mention his 140Kmph Yorker's. Rubel Hossain also won us single handedly the match against England in which Bangladesh qualified for the Quarter Finals against England. Shafiul does not possesses the venom, nor the pace to be a effective member of the squad. He needs to be dropped. I rather see Bangladesh play with 9 players instead of 11, because these two simply have no place in a squad filled with performers.

TLR: Drop Shafiul, Hom, bring in Nasir,Rubel Or Al-Amin Hossain


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Old November 5, 2016, 04:18 AM
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now ebadat is injured, so hoping for al amin in the squad but i think they will bring rabbi (based on their history of selection)
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Signed.

Thank God! for this. About time we the fans stood up and done something about it.
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Old November 5, 2016, 04:38 AM
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Shafiul and Hom don't have the quality to make Afghanistan A team
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Old November 5, 2016, 04:42 AM
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spread the word guys, tell everyone and share it on FB, i shared it on couple of high traffic pages already
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Old November 5, 2016, 04:56 AM
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Thing is I don't have any cricket loving friends in fb and mostly are none asians. So if wish had fb friends who were cricket interested would've shared it.
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Old November 5, 2016, 04:57 AM
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Can someone also translate this in bangla

We need your help, Shuvagata Hom and Shafiul Islam are getting a free ride to New Zealand for the upcoming series, however consistent performers such as Rubel Nasir and Al-amin are not getting a place in the team

please sign this petition to deliver the message of the fans to BCB and the chief selector..
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Old November 5, 2016, 04:59 AM
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someone translate this

I don`t trust google translate


It is truly peculiar how players like Shuvagata Hom and Shafiul Islam are getting free rides to such an important series in New Zealand, Shuvagata Hom averages less than 30 in List A, and has failed to make a mark in international cricket as an all rounder. To top it all of he is playing in New Zealand, conditions which are absolutely deadly for spin bowlers. With the inclusion of Shakib Al Hasan and Mehedi Hasan , it is absolutely stupid, to consider a third spinner, in a pace friendly environment. That is why I believe that Shuvagata Hom should be nowhere near the current Bangladesh Side and should be replaced with either Nasir Hossain, a proven All-rounder who is efficient with both bat(HS of 100 in ODIs) and ball(3/30 Vs SA) or Al-Amin Hossain, a deadly fast bowler, who is ranked 15th in the ICC T20I rankings and was in the Top 5 once. Al-Amin Hossain wicket taking ability will make him a vital contributor to the Side in both T20I or ODIs. Shuvagata struggled to perform in the First and Second Test Matches against England, in a TURNING PITCH!, he was not able to pick-up a single wicket on a pitch that assists spin bowlers, surely he does not belong in the side, he can neither score runs or take wickets.

Secondly, Shafiul Islam also needs to be dropped from the squad, he is simply not fast bowling material for Bangladesh.In fact, after bowling only a handful of overs in the First Test match, he got tired and chose the ''rest'' the series, Rubel Hossain would be a much more effective chance to accompany the pace attack of Bangladesh, his performance against New Zealand are impeccable, with him taking a hat trick and best figures of 6/26, not to mention his 140Kmph Yorker's. Rubel Hossain also won us single handedly the match against England in which Bangladesh qualified for the Quarter Finals against England. Shafiul does not possess the venom, nor the pace to be a effective member of the squad. He needs to be dropped. I rather see Bangladesh play with 9 players instead of 11, because these two simply have no place in a squad filled with performers.

To sign this petition please go to the right hand side and input your details, you do not have to input your address if you are not comfortable with it
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Old November 5, 2016, 05:05 AM
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For the petition,

We are all writing about this since yesterday. Some of us make sense, others don’t. But the intention are all the same. We all have that one question. Why? Or based on what?. The funny thing is, we are all asking a question we know the answer does not exist. At Least not a satisfactory one. But it's a democracy so might as well!

Make no mistake. This isn’t about vilifying Mr. Chandika. God I wish he would stay with for as long as he possibly can. But hey, everyone makes mistakes and because we live under this age of free speech, I can say whatever I want. We all can! The mere intention is to raise some of his decisions that he could've avoided and it would've almost certainly yielded better output!

So this squad for the Bangladesh team for this ever so significant tour of New Zealand did manage to shock a lot of fans. When I see a “lot”, I mean everyone that follows our cricket. When you have 50% of the population raises concern about a selection policy, it's a good thing because that can always happen and tells you the other half is with you! Comforting enough! When it starts to go over that 75% mark, that raises an eyebrow. Tells you that you have taken a gamble and the payoff is huge but so is the backlash. But when 100% of the crowd starts voicing against a decision, that's red flag, red light, siren whatever you want to call it. Let's go one by one. First up, Nasir Hossain. The undisciplined, the bad example and the one who you hate as a teacher but he always manages to pass the test and stay in your class. We all know the kind of utility player Nasir Hossain is. I don’t need to go pull up records because it's that obvious. True, there are times when even I felt that I would rather go with a lineup with players of more solid attributes or the capability to perform better in either departments. But not even in my dreams, I would discard someone like Nasir who I know can come to the rescue where ever I need him and however I need him. So first he lost his spot from the 11 which always seemed as sealed as the likes of Shakib, Mahmudullah, Tamim and so on. I guess his lack of improvement played a role in that. Fair enough,, lets bench him and let him work his way back with some determination which is the only thing he could possibly lack. But then, the coach went an extra step in removing him from 14 all together. How Mr.Chandika! That's very confident of you. You basically said, “You maybe good but unless you roll my way, I don’t need you” Good for you! Now we heard more ridiculous rumours and excuses about him then we would if we were to head Star Plus around 9:00Pm every weeknight! One word, Amateur!

Another person who is a victim to a similar situation. My favorite, Al Amin Hossain. Again, dropping someone like him who performs and performs damn well, that takes b’’’s! The reason, same old Star Plus. Neither makes sense but I can tell that wasn’t never their intention. The first excuse we have heard about Al Amin was the lack of discipline and we heard many times dating it back from the 2015 world cup. No one really paid attention because frankly we were doing ok without him. But then he returned, and he returned as someone whose performance you can't avoid even if u are blind. Performed at the big stage and performed at every kind of competition thrown at him. Yet again, when the team so desperately needed a seamer with experience, with control, with the level of effectiveness we lost with Mustafizur’s injury and Taskin remedial work he was Ignored again. And now, the squad against New Zealand basically says, “I will die but I won’t select you” O coach! Why the ego? Correct me if I am wrong (this applies to both Al Amin and Nasir), but when we have a student in the class that’s talented and performing but has a level of arrogance or the tendency to skip homework, what you do with them? Kick em out the class? Gosh I have never seen that but I knew student I wish got kicked out like that Seeing I was neither performing nor talented. But isn’t the right approach which our teachers always did was be patient with them, challenge them, motivate them and usually one of them always works! So this is where am confused about Mr. Chandika’s teaching techniques. Harsh I tell you! So harsh that it is damaging the performance of the school in general!

The thing is, none of Mr. Chandika’s gambles have yielded much long term solutions. Yes, he brought in discipline and I think that was a must for our team. But his list of gambles are rather alarming. Look at this list! Soumya Sarker, great first few months, and then a major headache for the selectors to come up with the right words to defend him. The coach is still struggling to defend him when the better option would’ve been to reduce pressure by letting him compete at a lower level and work on his issues. Then we had Jubair Hossain. We liked him too but even the coach couldn’t back him up. We had Mithun Ali, we had someone like Mukhtar Ali who was thrown in and out in no time. We had Saqlain Sajib, we had Mosharraf Rubel and now we have Kamrul Islam Rabbi and Shuvagata Hom. That's a pretty depressing list but in essence these are really the selections that the coach was directly rumoured to be involved with. How many of them are responsible for the turnout for Bangladesh cricket over the past 2 years? Barring Soumya (somewhat), NONE! Bad luck or bad at gambling all together?

It seems to me that the coach has been gambling for too much lately. So much that it has turned into an addiction. He is gambling more every series. Question is, why gamble when you are wining fine by playing safe? Lower your stakes coach and spend the night at the casino. That seems to be working better for you rather than going “All in” as soon as you walk in!
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thanks. we should translate it, since i doubt some people will understand it
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Done

Here it is I added a bit about rubel as well

We are all writing about this since yesterday. Some of us make sense, others don’t. But the intention are all the same. We all have that one question. Why? Or based on what?. The funny thing is, we are all asking a question we know the answer does not exist. At Least not a satisfactory one. But it's a democracy so might as well!

Make no mistake. This isn’t about vilifying Mr. Chandika. God I wish he would stay with for as long as he possibly can. But hey, everyone makes mistakes and because we live under this age of free speech, I can say whatever I want. We all can! The mere intention is to raise some of his decisions that he could've avoided and it would've almost certainly yielded better output!

So this squad for the Bangladesh team for this ever so significant tour of New Zealand did manage to shock a lot of fans. When I see a “lot”, I mean everyone that follows our cricket. When you have 50% of the population raises concern about a selection policy, it's a good thing because that can always happen and tells you the other half is with you! Comforting enough! When it starts to go over that 75% mark, that raises an eyebrow. Tells you that you have taken a gamble and the payoff is huge but so is the backlash. But when 100% of the crowd starts voicing against a decision, that's red flag, red light, siren whatever you want to call it. Let's go one by one. First up, Nasir Hossain. The undisciplined, the bad example and the one who you hate as a teacher but he always manages to pass the test and stay in your class. We all know the kind of utility player Nasir Hossain is. I don’t need to go pull up records because it's that obvious. True, there are times when even I felt that I would rather go with a lineup with players of more solid attributes or the capability to perform better in either departments. But not even in my dreams, I would discard someone like Nasir who I know can come to the rescue where ever I need him and however I need him. So first he lost his spot from the 11 which always seemed as sealed as the likes of Shakib, Mahmudullah, Tamim and so on. I guess his lack of improvement played a role in that. Fair enough,, lets bench him and let him work his way back with some determination which is the only thing he could possibly lack. But then, the coach went an extra step in removing him from 14 all together. How Mr.Chandika! That's very confident of you. You basically said, “You maybe good but unless you roll my way, I don’t need you” Good for you! Now we heard more ridiculous rumours and excuses about him then we would if we were to head Star Plus around 9:00Pm every weeknight! One word, Amateur, I mean what do you see in Shuvagata Hom, that isn`t in Nasir Hossain, he has a test and ODI hundred for crying out loud!

Another person who is a victim to a similar situation. My favorite, Al Amin Hossain. Again, dropping someone like him who performs and performs damn well, that takes b’’’s! The reason, same old Star Plus. Neither makes sense but I can tell that wasn’t never their intention. The first excuse we have heard about Al Amin was the lack of discipline and we heard many times dating it back from the 2015 world cup. No one really paid attention because frankly we were doing ok without him. But then he returned, and he returned as someone whose performance you can't avoid even if u are blind. Performed at the big stage and performed at every kind of competition thrown at him. Yet again, when the team so desperately needed a seamer with experience, with control, with the level of effectiveness we lost with Mustafizur’s injury and Taskin remedial work he was Ignored again. And now, the squad against New Zealand basically says, “I will die but I won’t select you” O coach! Why the ego? Correct me if I am wrong (this applies to both Al Amin and Nasir), but when we have a student in the class that’s talented and performing but has a level of arrogance or the tendency to skip homework, what you do with them? Kick em out the class? Gosh I have never seen that but I knew student I wish got kicked out like that Seeing I was neither performing nor talented. But isn’t the right approach which our teachers always did was be patient with them, challenge them, motivate them and usually one of them always works! So this is where am confused about Mr. Chandika’s teaching techniques. Harsh I tell you! So harsh that it is damaging the performance of the school in general!

Last but not least Shafiul Islam needs to be dropped from the squad, he is simply not fast bowling material for Bangladesh.In fact, after bowling only a handful of overs in the First Test match, he got tired and chose the ''rest'' the series, Rubel Hossain would be a much more effective chance to accompany the pace attack of Bangladesh, his performance against New Zealand are impeccable, with him taking a hat trick and best figures of 6/26, not to mention his 140Kmph Yorker's. Rubel Hossain also won us single handedly the match against England in which Bangladesh qualified for the Quarter Finals against England. Shafiul does not possess the venom, nor the pace to be a effective member of the squad. He needs to be dropped. I rather see Bangladesh play with 9 players instead of 11, because these two simply have no place in a squad filled with performers.We are dropping the fastest bowler, ever from Bangladesh, for a mediocre bowler named Shafiul Islam

It seems to me that the coach has been gambling for too much lately. So much that it has turned into an addiction. He is gambling more every series. Question is, why gamble when you are wininng fine by playing safe? Lower your stakes coach and spend the night at the casino. That seems to be working better for you rather than going “All in” as soon as you walk in!

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bro dont add anything to my existing article. I can give you a small piece for Rubel no problem
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We need to share it as much as possible, any ideas i tried facebook, if you guys can help me out it would be much appreciated
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Whiteknight, add this instead for Rubel, (Add it in the same place where you wrote)

Another player that has suffered from injustice is Rubel Hossain. True he has suffered from injuries and inconsistencies but to actually ignore one of the better away performers seems mind boggling. Rubel had a slow recovery. Right now, all he needs is match practice and yet this guy suddenly gets the Stop sign for whatever the reason is. It cannot be fitness because Shafiul who became exhausted after playing 1 test with minimal overs is a worse candidate in that criteria. Cannot be drop in pace because even at his semi fitness, he could possibly clock in speeds as fast as Kamrul Islam Rabbi. So why then? Are we done enjoying his success coach?
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bro dont add anything to my existing article. I can give you a small piece for Rubel no problem
Do it if you are not busy.
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added, Ive posted the petition up on several sites, but if u guys could some how share it on facebook(don`t have to if you are uncomfortable) Then we can get lots more, we already have 5 after just 1 hour
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Guys calm down. Its a preparatory squad and not the final one. Hom is not going to play in ODIs and I doubt he will be taken for tests as well. What's wrong with Shafiul in the preparatory squad? I dont think he is going to NZ either. Look at the bright side. Mustafiz and Shahid are back.
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Guys calm down. Its a preparatory squad and not the final one. Hom is not going to play in ODIs and I doubt he will be taken for tests as well. What's wrong with Shafiul in the preparatory squad? I dont think he is going to NZ either. Look at the bright side. Mustafiz and Shahid are back.
The Final squad will be chosen from the Preparatory One, and this is not just one rare case of a selection blunder,but a continuous one
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Guys calm down. Its a preparatory squad and not the final one. Hom is not going to play in ODIs and I doubt he will be taken for tests as well. What's wrong with Shafiul in the preparatory squad? I dont think he is going to NZ either. Look at the bright side. Mustafiz and Shahid are back.
The final squad will be picked from the preparatory squad! Duh

That means we have to deal with Shafiul, Hom probably. And this also means pretty much the same team for the same format.
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