facebook Twitter RSS Feed YouTube StumbleUpon

Home | Forum | Chat | Tours | Articles | Pictures | News | Tools | History | Tourism | Search

 
 


Go Back   BanglaCricket Forum > Cricket > Cricket

Cricket Join fellow Tigers fans to discuss all things Cricket

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old January 1, 2020, 04:59 AM
One World One World is offline
Cricket Sage
 
Join Date: May 18, 2005
Location: New England
Favorite Player: Mominul Haque
Posts: 24,499
Default Test matches in 2020: An open discussion on preparation and team selection

March - Zim at Home - 1
June - Aus at Home - 2
July - Srilanka away - 3
Aug - NZ at Home - 2

Feb - Pak away - 2 (not likely)

Question is are we ready to select only genuine test specialists and establish challenge for 5 days, a total of 40 days (50 if include Pak matches) of intense laborious patient cricket with proper class and mettle to showcase.
__________________
À vaincre sans péril, on triomphe sans gloire.
Reply With Quote

  #2  
Old January 1, 2020, 07:30 AM
Shingara's Avatar
Shingara Shingara is offline
Test Cricketer
 
Join Date: March 6, 2016
Location: USAF AWACS
Favorite Player: Pilot
Posts: 1,929

Show me the players from our current stock ,who you think can play for 5 days.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old January 1, 2020, 12:59 PM
Zeeshan's Avatar
Zeeshan Zeeshan is offline
Cricket Savant
 
Join Date: March 9, 2008
Location: Ω
Favorite Player: Tamim Iqbal
Posts: 34,710

Not so sure about the open discussion....



.... lest the ousters stealeth our secret.
__________________
Ok Boomer.

My books My video
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old January 1, 2020, 02:02 PM
Rinathq's Avatar
Rinathq Rinathq is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: January 1, 2010
Location: Alberta, Canada
Favorite Player: Mash, Riyad, Tamim
Posts: 6,666

So we have,

Tamim
Mominul
Mushy
Riyad
Miraz
Taijul
Ebadat

These are the 7 sure shots that will play if they are fit. So we have vacancies for another opener, a middle order batsman, a wicketkeeper and another seamer. Then we have extras.

Right now, players that are almost confirmed to get first few games are:

Shadman
Liton
Rahi
Al Amin


For me, Shadman isnt a guranteed opener for all of 2020 if he cant string some decent knocks. Since Imrul and Saif are performing well, they are not too far behind in pushing Shadman if he continues to avg around 20s. Kinda hoping Saif comes through as he had a decent domestic run for past few years. However, if I am completely honest, I still want a veteran back in the batting order. With Shakib gone and Riyad not really a proper test batsmen, we need an anchor which Mominul has refused to play. The batting order lacks experience and I think someone like Naeem Islam still has a role to play

For us to do well this year... we need Tamim, Mominul, Mushy and Riyad to start scoring runs consistently and not once in a series. These 4 has to combine for 200+ runs in every innings.

For bowling, I am very excited about Ebadat as I think he will only get better this year. If Rahi and Fizz/ Al Amin can complement him that would form a decent seam attack. For bowling, Miraz and Taijul has to take charge with Shakib gone. Expecting Miraz to contribute more with the bat as he has a golden opportunity to move up the order. Nayeem is a strong 3rd option and I suspect BCB will likely push Aminul towards a debut at some point this year.

Did I miss someone?
__________________
My clicks: https://www.flickr.com/photos/108789483@N05/
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old January 2, 2020, 03:24 PM
al Furqaan's Avatar
al Furqaan al Furqaan is offline
Cricket Sage
 
Join Date: February 18, 2004
Location: New York City
Favorite Player: Mominul, Nasir, Taskin
Posts: 24,721

Quote:
Originally Posted by One World
March - Zim at Home - 1
June - Aus at Home - 2
July - Srilanka away - 3
Aug - NZ at Home - 2

Feb - Pak away - 2 (not likely)

Question is are we ready to select only genuine test specialists and establish challenge for 5 days, a total of 40 days (50 if include Pak matches) of intense laborious patient cricket with proper class and mettle to showcase.
LOL what a schedule. 8 Tests scheduled, and pretty much 6 of them are guaranteed to be wash outs due to the rainy seasons. Well done BCB.
__________________
Bangladesh: Our Dream, Our Joy, Our Team

#OneTeam1Dream
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old January 3, 2020, 01:30 PM
Tigers_eye's Avatar
Tigers_eye Tigers_eye is offline
Cricket Savant
 
Join Date: June 30, 2005
Location: Little Rock
Favorite Player: Viv Richards, Steve Waugh
Posts: 32,649

How many did Shakib Tamim play?
__________________
The Weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the Strong." - Gandhi.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old January 3, 2020, 11:36 PM
One World One World is offline
Cricket Sage
 
Join Date: May 18, 2005
Location: New England
Favorite Player: Mominul Haque
Posts: 24,499

Very good analysis Rinat.

You raised valid questions. Besides blaming the board and name calling we also need to understand the opportunity each of those matches brings for the players. This is their path to glory. BD boys need to remember that no matter what level of performance they set forth there would be rare or no chances for them to get pro league contracts. Shakib is an exception, Mustafiz I doubt any chance for future selections. Sparse selection of TIK, Riad etc. in CPL/PSL are again once in a while. Those options at their frequency will still be there.

Rather focus on Test, be like Mominul or Taijul. That won’t hurt chances in BPL at all.

8 test matches give you 16 innings of batting, 16 innings of bowling/keeping/fielding.

How many centuries our openers planning to make?

Are they keeping opponent bowlers under study or just leaving it to the habitual practice “we will see when time comes”? Modern cricket requires you to be proactive and not wait that long.

Plan early bowlers specially pacers at home and spinners away. How many of you planning for five wicket hauls for those 16 innings of bowling? Each test match brings the opportunity to grab 20 wickets. That is a total of 160 wickets to grab. You need to plan against 44 ( different batsmen - Zim, NZ, Aus, Sri). Are you keeping them under your study? Noting their preferred shots, heights, strides etc.

How many fifties or double centuries our openers planning on? What about middle order?

What are the individual targets of Liton, Tamim, Riad, Mushfiqur, Muminul, Miraz, Imrul etc.?

What game plan does the coach have in mind? Only 8 matches. A formidable salary for such small planning - it should be thorough! For each opponent what strategy if toss is won, what if not? Considering the eight grounds for each of these matches - what preparation plan and new talent hunt underway?

Those questions are important unless team continues to be i*potent in longer format.

Slip catching/low quality keeping continue hurting our chances. What remedy the board has for those in future?
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old January 5, 2020, 03:39 AM
al Furqaan's Avatar
al Furqaan al Furqaan is offline
Cricket Sage
 
Join Date: February 18, 2004
Location: New York City
Favorite Player: Mominul, Nasir, Taskin
Posts: 24,721

I sincerely hope the Pakistan Tests are held and held on time, whether it be in a neutral venue or in Pakistan as per the FTP schedule. We cannot afford to not be playing Tests when we already play fewer than all other sides. This is precisely what killed Mominul's momentum.

My thoughts on what players we need to look at:

1) Mosaddek. If we want to do anything, we need to find our Babar Azam. We need a young batsman who will not only take over the mantle from Tamim-Mushy-Shakib but push the bar even higher. Mosaddek is only 24 and now is the time for him to be given a long run in the top 5. There is no excuse for not playing him. Babar Azam averaged in the 20s for 2 years before his break out 2019. Mosaddek needs a top 5 position in ODIs as well. He is not a T20 player, aside from the odd innings here and there.

2) Nayeem. We have lacked a tall spin bowler who can actually turn the ball. Nayeem must be picked as our #1 or #2 spinner (behind Taijul) and given ample opportunities just like Mosaddek. Miraz should be given Shakib's spot in the top 6 because that is the only way his batting is going to develop. If he can't do it, then Miraz should be dropped for a wrist spinner, because playing 2 off spinners and 2 SLAs in the same XI is mind numbingly idiotic.

3) A young seamer (Shoriful, Mrittunjoy, Tanzim). Ebadat, Rahi, and Khaled are all 26 years old, which is quite old for a fast bowler. They may only be able to bowl for 4-5 years before form or fitness strikes. Mustafiz does not look like he is interested or equipped to play Tests so might as well write him off if that is the most pragmatic thing. Bottom line is, we have a lot of pace talent in this U-19 team, and so Fizz is now expendable if the situation dictates.

4) A wrist spinner. No idea who it could be. Aminul Biplob is probably the front runner. But we need to try and find someone ASAP.

5) Preferably another young top order batsman. Right now it appears to be Saif, but it could be Towhid or Joy from the current U-19 bunch. I think Akbar Ali might also turn out to be a fantastic cricketer, so lets keep an eye out.

6) Nurul Hasan. He and Liton should just get a 1 on 1 shootout for the WK-batsman role in the side. We need a tall WK like Nurul who can stop the 5 wides and 4 byes due to his reach.
__________________
Bangladesh: Our Dream, Our Joy, Our Team

#OneTeam1Dream
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old January 5, 2020, 04:50 PM
Gowza Gowza is offline
Cricket Guru
 
Join Date: July 15, 2007
Location: Australia
Favorite Player: Mike Procter
Posts: 12,251

Shadman and mosaddek should probably get more chances.

Current u19 players imo need more time in domestic cricket and High performance, A team cricket, u23 emerging etc type stuff.

Honestly there are no quick solutions, the system isn’t working and until the system is fixed nothing will work and once the system works it will take at least 1-2 generations of cricketers (a generation being 5-7 year gaps) before the rewards are reaped.

It’s not just one part of BD cricket that is broken, there are parts in every sector that need sorting from players to selectors to BCB, to infrastructure.

If everyone was professional and did their job to the best of their ability that’d be a start. Just generally the work ethic and accountability for ones own performance seems to be lacking.

I mean the players for example, how can you be happy with yourself performing so poorly day in, day out? It’s not just them, that’s just one example.

BCB need to organise more FC cricket, flat out, it’s not a difficult thing to realise that Bangladeshi cricketers don’t play enough of it so for goodness sake just organise some more tournaments or make the NCL/BCL tournaments longer (obviously need better coaching and pitches to).

2020 goal should be fixing the attitudes.

Last edited by Gowza; January 5, 2020 at 09:20 PM..
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:54 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
BanglaCricket.com
 

About Us | Contact Us | Privacy Policy | Partner Sites | Useful Links | Banners |

© BanglaCricket