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Old May 15, 2007, 08:38 PM
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is it possible to make this a sticky?
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Old May 15, 2007, 09:00 PM
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Sakib has been a great find for us, perhaps the all-rounder we always wanted that Alok couldn't become. I think he has the mentality to be a good test batsman and hopefully prove it in the upcoming matches.
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Old May 16, 2007, 01:10 AM
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What's really disappointing is Mohammed Ashraful's stats. To average 21 after over a hundred one-day internationals, given his talent, is very, very ordinary. Talent is all well and good, but results are more important. Given his experience he should have stepped up a long time ago.

Of even greater concern is that his average seems to have stabilised around the 20 mark over the past 50 matches - it's no longer trending upwards or downwards (click on thumbnail below).



We don't want Ashraful's name to always be associated with the word "potential" - because all potential means is that you haven't achieved success yet, you're still a "maybe". He really needs to step up this year, otherwise it will become apparent that for all his talent, he's just a 20-average player, and we all know he's better than that. But actions speak louder than words, as they say.
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Old May 16, 2007, 02:08 AM
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ditto OZGOD
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Old May 16, 2007, 02:12 AM
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What's really disappointing is Mohammed Ashraful's stats. To average 21 after over a hundred one-day internationals, given his talent, is very, very ordinary. Talent is all well and good, but results are more important. Given his experience he should have stepped up a long time ago.

Of even greater concern is that his average seems to have stabilised around the 20 mark over the past 50 matches - it's no longer trending upwards or downwards (click on thumbnail below).



We don't want Ashraful's name to always be associated with the word "potential" - because all potential means is that you haven't achieved success yet, you're still a "maybe". He really needs to step up this year, otherwise it will become apparent that for all his talent, he's just a 20-average player, and we all know he's better than that. But actions speak louder than words, as they say.
I whole heartedly support you. Ash is really overrated in the BC forum.
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Old May 16, 2007, 02:17 AM
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I personally think the whole team is overrated
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Old May 16, 2007, 03:00 AM
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Good effort. But I am missing scoring rates. That's important for ODIs.
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Old May 16, 2007, 03:58 AM
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excellent!!
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Old May 16, 2007, 04:00 AM
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So, Javed is there among the top.....i think we need strike rate for ODIs to get the real picture also

Same kind of stats for test matches will also be nice...
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Old May 16, 2007, 06:27 AM
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What an excellent piece of work! Keep it up, TheWatcher. Thanks for this nice article
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Old May 16, 2007, 09:22 AM
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pre-2002 stats against zimbabwe can be counted in these stats. until 2002, zimbabwe used to be a major team until the strikes broke out in wc 2003.
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Old May 16, 2007, 10:05 AM
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Also, Opee's century making innings against Zimbabwe was not his debut ODI innings.
Sorry .. that was loooooooong ago. Can't remember properly. My bad.
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Old May 16, 2007, 11:00 AM
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pre-2002 stats against zimbabwe can be counted in these stats. until 2002, zimbabwe used to be a major team until the strikes broke out in wc 2003.
he's right...but i think zimbabwe till 04 might be included as well...they had streak, blignaut, et al.
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Old May 16, 2007, 02:03 PM
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This should be one of the most necessary thread in this section. Commendable stuff, TheWatcher. But I think the Strike Rate is a crucial aspect gone missing here.
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Old May 16, 2007, 02:42 PM
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Guys, I know that strike rate is an important factor in one-day cricket. Unfortunately, cricinfo's statsguru does not give you the S.R.
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Old May 16, 2007, 02:49 PM
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pre-2002 stats against zimbabwe can be counted in these stats. until 2002, zimbabwe used to be a major team until the strikes broke out in wc 2003.
The problem with Zimbabwe is that they never really maintained a standard, their performances always fluctuated a lot. Also, even in their golden periods, they never managed to break into top eight teams. So, I thought performances against Zimbabwe, even from the Flower-Streak era, should not be categorized as same as the performances against any top eight team.
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Old May 17, 2007, 12:11 AM
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Guys, I know that strike rate is an important factor in one-day cricket. Unfortunately, cricinfo's statsguru does not give you the S.R.
if u have the time, u can look up at all the scorecards and then using ms-excel or something calculate the strike-rates
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Old May 17, 2007, 11:19 AM
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why is this off sticky ? I for one think that it should be there, as it can monitor our batsmen's performance, without going out of sight.
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Old May 18, 2007, 01:30 AM
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Thanks a bunch to Mahir for calculating strike rates and %runs scored from boundaries for qualifying matches played since 2005 NatWest series. Those stats are now added to the first post.
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