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View Poll Results: Should Mushfiqur be stripped of captaincy?
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Old March 3, 2014, 10:04 AM
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... and he got his wish...his under performing buddy is back in the team replacing injured gazi and his prefered bowler Safiul is back replacing Mashrafee. And in top of that some of his indentified "4 underperformer" will also be gone. So he got what he wanted, so what will be his next excuse next time? "Dew factor" ? Or Al-Amin has bad body language as a 12th player?

If you ask me, the team is already damaged under his leadership. His unusually method of going in the public first, unconditional support to his under performing buddy Riyad, publicly confronting the chief selector, and publicly throwing his own players under the bus, can never be good to the team chemistry.

He seems to be a very lousy loser: he cries, he thows his own players under the bus, he follows different standard for different players (buddy platyers vs new players), he never takes respblility (his own defficiency as a captain) to divert pressure form this new players, he publickly confront with his chief selectors instead using back door first to resolve.

He once got punched and broke his nose arguing with a waiter in one of those highway restaurants, how often that happens to a regular guy? He may have some communication problem as a leader in the team.
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Old March 3, 2014, 11:04 AM
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Will Shameem have the brains to ask Mushy about that fateful over?
That might not be the root cause. I don't know how much influence coaches have in selecting a team versus board, let alone captain.

Mashrafe's fitness remained a question mark since 2000 so he is not a viable alternative. I am doubtful about BCBs role over the years in maintaining off-season fitness of players like Mashrafe.
Overall inexperience indicates our national team is not rehearsed enough for big stage like Rajjak's running between wickets and lately Nasir's multiple attempts to get himself out when it was his call in absence of Tamim & Shakib. Razzak being a very good ODI/T20 bowler where he turns the ball away from right handed batsmen, does not have any alternative weapon in terms of turn, speed, length and loop and remained ineffective for Test in general. It might be true that no one has asked or offered Razzak to develop those skills. Same reasons could be true in case of Mashrafe's fitness when off from national team. Attacking fielding is coached and practiced though field setting designed is by the captain.
Some expectation & responsibility trickle downs from top, requires a development strategy and results in execution at big stages. Changing a captain would not make a significant change overnight.
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Old March 3, 2014, 11:09 AM
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Looks like he got worse in leadership / team unity with time.

At the same time, he keeps making the same mistake on the field, year after year.

I no longer consider him to be fit to lead the team.
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Old March 3, 2014, 12:42 PM
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... and he got his wish...his under performing buddy is back in the team replacing injured gazi and his prefered bowler Safiul is back replacing Mashrafee. And in top of that some of his indentified "4 underperformer" will also be gone. So he got what he wanted, so what will be his next excuse next time? "Dew factor" ? Or Ali-Noor has bad body language as a 12th player?

If you ask me, the team is already damaged under his leadership. His unusually method of going in the public first, unconditional support to his under performing buddy Riyad, publicly confronting the chief selector, and publicly throwing his own players under the bus, can never be good to the team chemistry.

He seems to be a very lousy loser: he cries, he thows his own players under the bus, he follows different standard for different players (buddy platyers vs new players), he never takes respblility (his own defficiency as a captain) to divert pressure form this new players, he publickly confront with his chief selectors instead using back door first to resolve.

He once got punched and broke his nose arguing with a waiter in one of those highway restaurants, how often that happens to a regular guy? He may have some communication problem as a leader in the team.
How could you read my mind Fazal mamu?
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Old March 3, 2014, 12:47 PM
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How could you read my mind Fazal mamu?
I just read your comment above me and realized that we are talking the same thing. Somehow I missed your comment before writing mine. It looks like I am rephrasing your comment.
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Old March 3, 2014, 01:24 PM
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I just read your comment above me and realized that we are talking the same thing. Somehow I missed your comment before writing mine. It looks like I am rephrasing your comment.
Yes...we are on the same boat.
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Old March 3, 2014, 03:11 PM
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Fazal said it all. Cant find anything else to add.....
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Old March 4, 2014, 10:44 AM
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Hopefully now everybody understand what means by a retarded nonsense stupid captain!!!
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Old March 4, 2014, 10:48 AM
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A team lead by a loser captain is bound to lose. Mushy can be a good batsman, but as a captain he is the worst captain ever born on the earth. He doesn't have any clue about captaincy at all!

As long as he is captaining the team, I am thinking to stop follow BD cricket. This is too much!!!
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Old March 4, 2014, 11:00 AM
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Yes.. Today we lost the match solely because of his decision..

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Old March 4, 2014, 11:00 AM
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Yes please!
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Old March 4, 2014, 11:01 AM
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Why Zia did not get a single over? Why Mushi why??
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Old March 4, 2014, 11:11 AM
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You want to drop Rubel fine but why not go with an extra spinner when you know Zia can bowl tidily on one side of the wicket. Shafiul is spanked for boundaries and still you dont go to Zia who kept the pressure on India the last game with the ball. You don't drop Razzak after the way he got run out against Afghanistan! I think you need to resign and hand over the captaincy to anyone but yourself. We simply cannot defend any total under you.
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Old March 4, 2014, 11:17 AM
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I just cannot tolerate this moron. This is becoming too much for me!
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Old March 4, 2014, 11:18 AM
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We need to think now..He cant captain this side anymore..he is beyond moron as a captain
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Old March 4, 2014, 11:23 AM
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He had riyad,momi,zia to choose yet he went with lala who was the worst bowler of todays match.. Its just so obvious that he aint captain material..

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Old March 4, 2014, 03:00 PM
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A sampling of today's bowling change:

Over 26: Mahmudullah (6 runs) Pakistan 119/3 (RR: 4.57, RRR: 8.66)
Over 27: Mominul Haque (4 runs) Pakistan 123/3 (RR: 4.55, RRR: 8.86)
Over 28: Nasir Hossain (5 runs) Pakistan 128/3 (RR: 4.57, RRR: 9.04)
Over 29: Mominul Haque (11 runs) Pakistan 139/3 (RR: 4.79, RRR: 8.95)
Over 30: Nasir Hossain (6 runs) Pakistan 145/3 (RR: 4.83, RRR: 9.10)
Over 31: Shafiul Islam (12 runs) Pakistan 157/3 (RR: 5.06, RRR: 8.94)
Over 32: Razzak (11 runs) Pakistan 168/3 (RR: 5.25, RRR: 8.83)
Over 33: Shafiul Islam (10 runs) Pakistan 178/3 (RR: 5.39, RRR: 8.76)

Shafiul was brought back once more and gave away 16 runs.

Why keep trying what is not working? Here is what did not work today, but the great skipper kept trying:
Shafiul Islam 5 0 49 0 9.80 (3w)
Abdur Razzak 9 0 72 1 8.00 (1w)

Here is what worked today and only Shakib bowled his full quota.
Shakib Al Hasan 10 2 53 1 5.30 (2w)
Mominul Haque 9 1 37 2 4.11
Mahmudullah 7 1 47 1 6.71
Nasir Hossain 3 0 17 0 5.66

Why was Ziaur Rahman in the team? His medium pace could have been useful on this pitch. But, his name is not Shafiul Islam and thus the great skipper did not even try him once!
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Old March 4, 2014, 03:02 PM
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I am getting sick and tired of hearing excuses. There is no positive in a defeat. Defeat is not honorable! Yes, Afridi took the match away. But, he was allowed to be in that position.

Here is the great skipper's comments from CI: "Mushfiqur Rahim says he thought after the last couple of games, we got a good start from the openers and we finished the batting well too. But when Afridi plays like that, he hit our best bowler, Shakib for three sixes in an over, there was very little we can do. They were hoping for a mis-hit and unfortunately he dropped one but thankfully he was out soon after. We bowled a few length balls at the wrong time but overall we played much better than the last few games and we can take a lot of positives from this game"
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Old March 4, 2014, 03:11 PM
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Mushy must be stripped off his Captaincy. He reminds me of Habibul Bashar.
And, Anamul is a better wicketkeeper than Mushy.
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Old March 4, 2014, 04:59 PM
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I just voted. I voted yes.

I was critical about his captaincy and was hoping he will show sign of improvement. Its getting chaotic day by day. Now its becoming apparent that, moving to the future, he is not the captain material who will take us any where.
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Old March 4, 2014, 05:11 PM
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He wasnt this poor behind the stumps as a captain. Maybe behind the stumps as captain he saw the picture/view better? How the game is shapping out?
Since mushy has captained BD as an outfielder and not behind the stumps BD lost all of the matches.
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Old March 4, 2014, 05:25 PM
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I think we have had enough. We lost way too many matches because of his incompetency and mistakes.

But I will point finger to the head coach at the same time, who just sits there in the dressing room and let this all happen. The coach has no control over his captain and he failed miserably to make Mushy a better captain. We need a coach who can run this team with iron hand and dont allow the captain making silly mistakes like this. As you guys pointed out, using Shafiul and Razzak who failed miserably to check the runs instead of Zia or Nasir is utter stupidity. Either Mushy simply lacks common sense or simply biased to his fav players, promoting nepotism.

Its time to hand over the captaincy to Shakib.
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Old March 4, 2014, 06:18 PM
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I remember Dave Whatmore used to come down near the ropes at yell at players. Good ol Dave
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Old March 4, 2014, 11:34 PM
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sick and tired of hearing bad luck as an excuse for losing matches we should have won.

Shafiul in his last 5 ODIs managed bowl his full quota of overs only once, managed to bowl more than 6 overs only twice and went for 6.78 per over managing 4 wickets.
Are these stats screaming for selection?

lets look at Rubel, the guy he replaced
Rubel bowled his full quota of overs 4 times in 5 matches going at 6.37 per over picking up 10 wickets in 5 games.

Rubel regardless of how useless he is in the death overs was at least giving us the breakthroughs at the start of the innings.

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Among all this, what is the coach doing?

Do they not go through the pre-match discussions, analysis, drills and stuff?
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