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Old February 4, 2010, 11:18 PM
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Default Kick Mushfique out of ODI and T20 teams.

This guy is not fit to play ODIs and T20s. Parar polapain aro valo keeping korte pare..

His batting in this two formats are not any good either.

He must be dropped. We need a better keeper.

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Old February 4, 2010, 11:23 PM
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we need his batting, we need a new keeper though.
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Old February 4, 2010, 11:35 PM
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we need his batting, we need a new keeper though.
because of him we gave away 100 runs extra. If he can score that in less than 8 overs... i will forgive him. His missed catch will cost us this game.. nothing else.
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Old February 4, 2010, 11:54 PM
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we need his batting, we need a new keeper though.
We need his batting in Tests, not in ODIs/T20s.
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Old February 4, 2010, 11:29 PM
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who would you replace him with? dhiman is (or use to be) a good keeper but can't bat, mithun has struggled with the bat this season and as far as i know he hasn't been given much praise for his keeping so i'm guessing he's not the greatest keeper. there isn't really anyone unless, saghir might be an ok keeper (never seen him myself) but his batting isn't up to scratch either, anamul is too young, too inexperienced to be considered for the national team at this point.
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Old February 4, 2010, 11:55 PM
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who would you replace him with? dhiman is (or use to be) a good keeper but can't bat, mithun has struggled with the bat this season and as far as i know he hasn't been given much praise for his keeping so i'm guessing he's not the greatest keeper. there isn't really anyone unless, saghir might be an ok keeper (never seen him myself) but his batting isn't up to scratch either, anamul is too young, too inexperienced to be considered for the national team at this point.
Well, there's no harm in trying someone new, right? We won't be able to know who is good or bad untill we try them out.
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Old February 5, 2010, 12:01 AM
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Well, there's no harm in trying someone new, right? We won't be able to know who is good or bad untill we try them out.
depends, no point in trying someone new if you already know they're not up to it. it's a matter of having a look at mushy, then having a look at the other keeper batsmen options in the country and deciding whether there is anyone who potentially could be better than mushy and is worth taking a risk on.
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Old February 5, 2010, 12:04 AM
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depends, no point in trying someone new if you already know they're not up to it. it's a matter of having a look at mushy, then having a look at the other keeper batsmen options in the country and deciding whether there is anyone who potentially could be better than mushy and is worth taking a risk on.
Well. Sahagir is a good keeper. He is tall and very quick. I think saw him live in some games. He looked good.

We should give him a chance.
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Old February 5, 2010, 12:09 AM
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Well. Sahagir is a good keeper. He is tall and very quick. I think saw him live in some games. He looked good.

We should give him a chance.
if they're going to go for a specialist keeper they may as well go with dhiman since they already know what he can do at the international level. if they want a keeper batsmen (which is what they should be trying to find) then guys like mithun, nadimuddin (wherever he is), anamul (even though he shouldn't be consisdered yet) should be considered. could even have a look at the likes of jahurul and shamsur rahman. i don't know enough about these players to make any sort of call on their keeping or batting other than looking at their records.
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Old February 5, 2010, 12:14 AM
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Well, there's no harm in trying someone new, right? We won't be able to know who is good or bad untill we try them out.
well the same logic goes with batsmans like ashraful/imrul/junayed/rock

it's better to score consistent 30 runs than two-four big innings a year
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Old February 5, 2010, 03:01 AM
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who would you replace him with? dhiman is (or use to be) a good keeper but can't bat, mithun has struggled with the bat this season and as far as i know he hasn't been given much praise for his keeping so i'm guessing he's not the greatest keeper. there isn't really anyone unless, saghir might be an ok keeper (never seen him myself) but his batting isn't up to scratch either, anamul is too young, too inexperienced to be considered for the national team at this point.
Valid points but redundant as redundant is Mushfik's faulty hapless keeping. So I would rather take my options than sticking with a failure.
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Old February 4, 2010, 11:29 PM
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Bring Mithun or Anamul..........No Dhiman plz.he just sux in batting, dont care how good his wk is.he is just worse batsman than Rubel Hossain.
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Old February 4, 2010, 11:33 PM
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whatever happened to nadimuddin? i though he was meant to be a good keeper batsman prospect?
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Old February 4, 2010, 11:44 PM
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His keeping has improved. Ofcourse, he missed few chances today but both of the takes were hard to be honest. It's okay to be pissed at him now. Yes, I would rather have a McCullum in my team but hopefully by tomorrow, you guys will realize he is the best we have.
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Old February 4, 2010, 11:57 PM
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His keeping has improved. Ofcourse, he missed few chances today but both of the takes were hard to be honest. It's okay to be pissed at him now. Yes, I would rather have a McCullum in my team but hopefully by tomorrow, you guys will realize he is the best we have.
Sadi bhai, I know he has improved but he still drop catches or miss stumping in almost every game. He almost missed the stumping of Vettory as well.
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Old February 5, 2010, 12:19 PM
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Sadi bhai, I know he has improved but he still drop catches or miss stumping in almost every game. He almost missed the stumping of Vettory as well.
What we need to do is promote him at number 3 and let him bat there instead of the fool. Keepingwise, it is always hard to take a catch off a spinner. Ross Taylor's stumping was doable but remember it was almost a yorker length ball that he swung right in front of Mushi. So, he probably didn't see the ball too well. Broom's one was a big deviation off the bowler which is hard to take since the keeper is right upto the batsman. I am not saying Mushi is a great keeper. But he is making some improvement and we need to stay with him. What we need to worry about is those batsman who are not making any improvements and gives away their wickets almost every single time.
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Old February 5, 2010, 12:39 PM
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What we need to do is promote him at number 3 and let him bat there instead of the fool. Keepingwise, it is always hard to take a catch off a spinner. Ross Taylor's stumping was doable but remember it was almost a yorker length ball that he swung right in front of Mushi. So, he probably didn't see the ball too well. Broom's one was a big deviation off the bowler which is hard to take since the keeper is right upto the batsman. I am not saying Mushi is a great keeper. But he is making some improvement and we need to stay with him. What we need to worry about is those batsman who are not making any improvements and gives away their wickets almost every single time.
What we need to do is deflect the attention of gaps we need to fix by pointing to other gaps. This way we can simply ignore our problems and basically repeat the mistakes and expect different results each time.

If we play the percentage games maybe we can lose enough games so by the time the WC comes around we will be bound to win a game or two thanks to the laws of probability.
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Old February 4, 2010, 11:48 PM
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kick Jamie Siddons out. Hire Arjuna Ranatunga as a batting coach. Jonty Rhodes as a fielding coach. Damien Fleming(aussi fast bowler) as a bowling coach.

is equal to $20,000
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Old February 4, 2010, 11:58 PM
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kick Jamie Siddons out. Hire Arjuna Ranatunga as a batting coach. Jonty Rhodes as a fielding coach. Damien Fleming(aussi fast bowler) as a bowling coach.

is equal to $20,000
Ranatunga no way man, have u seen his figure. Jamie Siddons has better record than him.
Bowling coach is fine. Rhodes will never take the Bangladesh offer, and even Arjuna won't take it, he has a high demand of himself.
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Ranatunga no way man, have u seen his figure. Jamie Siddons has better record than him.
Bowling coach is fine. Rhodes will never take the Bangladesh offer, and even Arjuna won't take it, he has a high demand of himself.
Ranatunga was actually a class player. he and dave whatmore changed the whole srilankan team during 96 world cup. ranatunga wanted to be the coach for bd after dave whatmore left, but bcb didn't give him a chance.
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Old February 4, 2010, 11:50 PM
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As a keeper he's below average, we definitely need a new keeper...that said we can still have him in the team as a top order batsman
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I'm still sticking with my earlier assessment...
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As a keeper he's below average, we definitely need a new keeper...that said we can still have him in the team as a top order batsman
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Old February 4, 2010, 11:55 PM
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This guy is not fit to play ODIs and T20s. Parar polapain aro valo keeping korte pare..

His batting in this two formats are not any good either.

He must be dropped. We need a better keeper.

Shala Hadaram ekta..
Yes I agree with 100%. I think even Junaid will do better than him.
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Old February 5, 2010, 12:19 AM
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the only thing we can hope...he improves his keeping skill..because when Siddons is around..no way anyone can drop Mushi..If Raqibul/ Ash can keep their place then why not Mushy ? Although his keeping skill sucks big time..but he is consistent with his batting...I am hoping for a 50+ innings from him
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Old February 5, 2010, 12:20 AM
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We can easily afford a good wktkeeper without dropping Mushfiq. We are now currently playing with one extra batsman...so drop a batsman and bring an specialist keeper.
I will drop Aftab/Kayes and will make Mushy opener and will bring a new Wkeeper

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