Rana or Enamul. Who gives us more?

[Mahmood]

Agreed, we should consider Rana as a batsman who can bowl.

[chinaman]

Interestingly, Rana has been considered as a bowler who gets the nod for his batting. Now, watch out guys, Enam is in the same boat. Take it from me, he can bat too.

[Fazal]

Can he open?

We need a opener asap.

[Fazal]

Originally posted by observer
I will make a very bold statement here, (pretty stupid really, but what the heck)

Enam will be Bangladesh's leading test wicket taker for many, many years. He will break and set records, that will stand for a long time. He is a class act and one of the best young spinners i have seen, far superior to any young spinners in Australia or in Bangladesh. He is a genuine spinner who actually gets batsmen out, rather than waiting for the batsmen to get himself out, a match winner.

I could be wrong, but i am happy to make this prediction at this early stage.

On the topic at hand - no contest.

Wow! What a endorsement by the coach! I wish I could watch the game to see our Future Warne.

Edited on, January 5, 2005, 5:39 PM GMT, by Fazal.

[pagol-chagol]

Originally posted by observer
I will make a very bold statement here, (pretty stupid really, but what the heck)

Enam will be Bangladesh's leading test wicket taker for many, many years. He will break and set records, that will stand for a long time. He is a class act and one of the best young spinners i have seen, far superior to any young spinners in Australia or in Bangladesh. He is a genuine spinner who actually gets batsmen out, rather than waiting for the batsmen to get himself out, a match winner.

I could be wrong, but i am happy to make this prediction at this early stage.

WOW! If this doesn't go to the front page, we shouldn't have a front page.

[Tintin]

I will make a very bold statement here, (pretty stupid really, but what the heck) Enam will be Bangladesh's leading test wicket taker for many, many years. He will break and set records, that will stand for a long time. He is a class act and one of the best young spinners i have seen, far superior to any young spinners in Australia or in Bangladesh. He is a genuine spinner who actually gets batsmen out, rather than waiting for the batsmen to get himself out, a match winner. I could be wrong, but i am happy to make this prediction at this early stage.

Two days late, and it would have been too late to make this prediction.

[pagol-chagol]

He said this the day before the test started. Talk about vision. What a great judge of talent.

[samircreep]

Ahem. I spotted Enamul more than a year ago when he made his debut and went on to say that he will be the best leg spinner in the country. Even analyzed his bowling action and gave the reasons why he would succeed.So how about you guys take me out to dinner or something.

[pagol-chagol]

Originally posted by samircreep
Ahem. I spotted Enamul more than a year ago when he made his debut and went on to say that he will be the best leg spinner in the country. Even analyzed his bowling action and gave the reasons why he would succeed.So how about you guys take me out to dinner or something.

I remember that one Sameercreep. Lets go to dinner.

[RazabQ]

and ahem #2 - if you read my profile description of Enam - u'll notice too I said he's gonna be our leading spiner and Rafique's replacement. so how bout dinner for me too?

[samircreep]

Exactly. Lets all go to dinner and celebrate people.I'm still high on pure adrenaline

[oracle]

Don't wan't to sound like a nag and joining the "I told you so bandwagon blah blah... but here goes:

-I wrote an article - 11 months ago harping about spin and especially Enamul as a "necessity" in the team.

BTW- I want my dinner- free one.

[islam]

Rana has been disapointing...

[Imtiaz]

May I also join the "I told you so.." brigade. Enamul was always in my chosen XI. Comparison between Rana and Enamul is frankly heretical.
Rana, as well as Mushfiq, did a bit of batting and bowling in the one-day format of the game. With the batting talent shown by Rafique, Mashrafe and Tapash, that spot has now become redundant. We can easily take on a specialist bowler.


Given the fickleness of the average Bangalee supporter judging by the comments made in banglacricket.com, I wouldn't be too surprised if his head is called for if he goes without a wicket or two in a couple of test matches.

I had not seen this thread before ! The first few posts make "interesting" reading !!

[rafiq]

Rana fans have no where to hide!! I think Rana can still figure in ODIs, that is his natural strength. But he never looked like a test class bowler. He also came on at a time when we were so worried about top order batting that every bowler also had to bat. I don;t know if he will be remembered as a bits-and-pieces allrounder like Mushfique and Sujon (asterisk next to Sujon for his good performances, don't want to start another Sujon war).

BD is getting some wicket-takers on the team now with Mashrafee, Nazmul and Enamul. I don;t know why Enamul was not played much after the England series when he did so well. Maybe he won't do so well abroad - we'll see how he does in England in May. The other spinner that has dissapeared is Rajjak Raj. I thought his action had been sorted out - he is a wicket taker as well and a good ODI candidate.

[Ibrahim]

Rana: all rounder
Enamul: specialist

both are BD players and we proud of them

[Imtiaz]

Since when did a bits-and-pieces player become an all-rounder. Imran Khan, Botham , Kapil Dev, Sean Pollocks are all-rounders.

An all-rounder is a player who commands his place both as a batsman and as a bowler.

You could argue that Mashud is an all-rounder who can command a place both as a wicket-keeper and as a batsman. Rafique nearly so now-a-days. Maybe , even Mortaza in days to come.

[Fazal]

Originally posted by Imtiaz
Since when did a bits-and-pieces player become an all-rounder.

Day after when a 20+ someting average becomes the batsman and the essential part of BD batting order. And two days after when a SR of 100+ becomes a bowler for BD team.

Even though there is no contoversy about Enamul's selection anymore, Rana is an alrounder and a good and promising one in bangladeshi standard.

[aosaif]

My spin on our spin:

Rana for ODI
Enamul for Tests
Thats my verdict
If one of them is doing crap, the other can play both versions of the game.
If need me, we have abdur razzak raj for ODIs - standby ammo

[Ibrahim]

Rana has potential too

[cricketfan]

Most people who told you so, did not tell you so in the first innings, only after the second innings.

[Imtiaz]

I think the Rana supporters are missing an essential point. Just because Rana bowls with his left hand does not make him a competitor for Enamul's place. Enamul commands a place as a specialist bowler. His place could be threatened in different pitch conditions by someone like Nazmul or Talha or whoever but not Rana.

If Enamul continues to bowl the way he bowled in both the innings, and I mean both, and in some pitch conditions, only one spinner can be included then Rafique and Enamul will compete for the spot. Though, in such non spin-friendly situations, Rafique's far better control will win him the place which should never really be in doubt for the time being.

Rana is a player who can bat and bowl, though neither at a specialist level. A very useful ODI player, actually. But now, thanks to Mashud, Rafique, Mashrafe and Tapash's batting talent, we are in a position to take on a specialist bowler like Nazmul whose main asset is control over line and length.

Ironically, to all the detractors of Mushfique, you should take a look at his economy rate in ODI's !

[Spitfire_x86]

Originally posted by cricketfan
Most people who told you so, did not tell you so in the first innings, only after the second innings.

I didn't, I watched the match live and saw him bowling well in the first innings.

[sham1980]

You know what guys I have seen Enam bat and he can he is a patient guy who tries so wait and see