Problematic mindset of Test selection

[taklima_naj]

At least Alok or Tushar could have been included instead of out of form players

[taklima_naj]

Originally Posted by WarWolf
I probably failed to express myself. I don't wanna go for draw if that what's the word "defensive" means. I wanna be a bit patient and defensive about bringing new players in to test squad just in order to prevent them from early drying out; we have already seen some examples like Nafis Iqbal, Alok Kapali etc.

I think Alok Kapali got his form back, and could have been included instead of Pilot or nafis/Gullu.

[BD Tigers]

Tamim's time will come just not yet. He has to cement his place in ODI first and play some matured innings, then we can talk abt Test.

[Rubu]

People still dream about alok? Wow, I thought he was forgotten. But again, when people talk about Shanto, I am not surprised.

[Aritro]

Originally Posted by Rubu
People still dream about alok? Wow, I thought he was forgotten. But again, when people talk about Shanto, I am not surprised.

Talent-wise, Alok's on a different plane to Shanto.

He's also 23-24.

[akabir77]

Originally Posted by Beamer
The test squad to SL has just been announced...

Thank you Beamer Bhai you r right on the money. True what you mentioned there... Our Test team would have 100% better then this one if they selected those three at least two.

Anyway Also you should get another big thank you for not calling names and still wrote a wonderful article which should be in the front page.

[SS]

selectors have no options but to choose from a pull of players who do not even play national leagues or other leagues regularly. But those who play there are showing some improvement(!), Few players, who played previously in national leagues, are showing relatively consistent performance. Among them NI,Alok, are fews to mention. There are also few others who played in U19, Academy team who are performing well too (e.g. Rakibul,Zunaed,Imrul, and few others). If BCB can put these few batsmen in A teams and arrange some longer/ODI matches with local or if possible other teams and then from the results pick the appropriate ones, it will be really helpful for our future team and also for those promising players.
We are in desperate need for atleast two good batsmen, a seamer/non-SLA spinner nowadays in both test and ODIs.

BCB showing that they are selecting players based on the performance in matches but they are not even fixing their 'problematic'/'unsuccessful' cricketing structure to produce/or fix the same mistakes our crickters making regular basis.

They haven't brought any batting coaches, not to mention no bowling coaches either.
Not enough longer version of the games, and very few of our national players even playing longer version at home. There should be more games with the top league performers, A-teams, and our national team. Could be even a small tournament where they will play more than just two games. If we can arrange few games, and then determine the player's consistency,performance etc. from those few matches.
Scoring 30 runs in two matches does not give automatic ticket to play for national side.

[SMHasan]

Originally Posted by Rubu
People still dream about alok? Wow, I thought he was forgotten. But again, when people talk about Shanto, I am not surprised.

Not necessarily you have to forget the cricketers who lost their way. Rather we need to find out why they are disappearing and whether we are nurturing them at all. I am not calling any players name but if you look at closely then you will see we have already lost few of our best talents. They can be called 'the lost generation'.

The way they lost their way is a kind of disease. We need to invent a vaccine for it. Our problem is we tend to discard the players who can't perform but we need to understand that we got some problems of understanding our own problems. Thus we need a vaccine for ourselves too.

[selina]

Originally Posted by SMHasan
Not necessarily you have to forget the cricketers who lost their way. Rather we need to find out why they are disappearing and whether we are nurturing them at all. I am not calling any players name but if you look at closely then you will see we have already lost few of our best talents. They can be called 'the lost generation'.

The way they lost their way is a kind of disease. We need to invent a vaccine for it. Our problem is we tend to discard the players who can't perform but we need to understand that we got some problems of understanding our own problems. Thus we need a vaccine for ourselves too.

Totally agree with you.
We do need to diagnose the disease and quickly create a vaccine before it spreads any further.

[Beamer]

Originally Posted by oracle
I do not completely agree that Rajin is a negative player in the mould of JO. His debut was in the middle of a turbulent period in BD tests when the openeing pair and middle order was in disarray ( even to this day but in a milder form). So, I think he also suffered because of the selectors swapping him around and having wrong expectations about him. This upcoming series will be good chance for him to restablish a place in the team.

No..no..not even close to comparing Rajin with JO here. I firmly said that there is an overwhelming need for a player like Rajin in the test line up, someone who will not impulsively give his wkt away ( though I think he has more room for improvement specially against spin ) , but at the same time, my point is not to have a line up dominated by limited defensive players who allow the opposition to get on top. We achieve none in the process. We are not able to play sessions/days with preferred players since they are not that good anyway. Until we have a set of players who can, or learn, to combine their defensive temperament with mixed aggression when needed, we will comtinue to falter under choking pressure. In other words, we tend to pick players for tests who can play in one gear. I think the mindset of the selectors need to change on that front as they have done so for limited format games. Just look how much we average per innings with defense first tactics - 230? 240 runs? At this point of our test history, I think we need players who has the intent to score first. Will there be failures? probably. But, I am going to back players of superior quality first, so they can at least give us a chance to post good totals with their positive intent.

[One World]

and Mohammad Sharif again

[cricket_king]

Originally Posted by bangla786
1. Mohammad Ashraful (Captain)
2. Mashrafe Bin Mortaza (Vice Captain)
3. Habibul Bashar
4. Javed Omer
5. Mehrab Hossain (Jr.)
6. Shahriar Nafees Ahmed
7. Rajin Saleh
8. Shakib Al Hasan
9. Khaled Mashud
10. Shahadat Hossain Rajib
11. Syed Rasel
12. Mohammed Rafique
13. Abdur Razzak
14. Mohammad Sharif
15. Mushfiqur Rahim


--> so just like the selectors, you guyz think tamim is no better than these nine batsman that were selected for the test squad???? if so then i swear
u guyz are buncha old mentality peoples who only thinks for respectable loose or draw!
b4 tamimz inclusion into the odi team , i remember u guyz were whining about him being so young and all that but wht happend den? he proved his place and now u guyz are saying hes too young and nt experience! wt the hell happended to ashz case when he only played two domestic cricket match and seleted as a test player and become the youngest player to make debut century!

leaving him out of the test match will jus waste his time of the career which all of us will realise when he become 35+, " oh y didnt we promote him earlier''


and we have to remember we have nothing to loose (huh even saving innings defeat would be a miracle with players like golla, haba, piloto in the team) other than trying our young players so we can have better future with them in upcoming series rather than playing with jo and the future output is nothing

EXCELLENT MATE! I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE!!
Tamim Rocks!!
Let's take this to the board