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Old March 19, 2011, 08:08 PM
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Default Who can answer me these 4 questions??

Can anyone from anybody from this forum give me the answer of these 4 qustions. Many may say that these are meaningless now but no , this may happen in future also!!

1.Why was Nafees chosen over Jaharul. What have Nafees done to make a plce for him in the team? why all these politics?
2. Why was Mashrafe Mortaza not included in the 15 men team. I am asking this because even the best team in the world ( Kangaroos ) kept Hussey in the 15 men team even when he was not fully fit. Wy could not we do that?
3.Why does shakib bat at no 5/6 even when he is the ebst bangladeshi batsmen in ODI ( now many may say Tamim is the best..no he isnt!!) . So, in every team the best batsman comes one down ..why not us?? now u ppl may say he does 10 over bowling,captaincy and all. But that doesn't matter...when you are a player and getting paid, you must do all these.
4.why do they tell so many things before the match when such are not important to say like W.indies match not a must win match, you will see a 100 run partnership when they know that they cannot fulfill those?
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Old March 19, 2011, 08:21 PM
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Mr. Kamal has all the answers
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Old March 20, 2011, 04:44 AM
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Why only blame Kamal lotus and siddions? Shakib is also part of the selection process.
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Old March 19, 2011, 08:30 PM
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1. Jaharul is a WK, SN is a top order batsman where we are very thin. The question should be asked why Jaharul was not included and Ashraful was included in Zim series and in the WC squad? With the limited opportunity Jaharul was given he is proven to be a better batsman and a better WK than Mushi. So as a backup he should have been there. Not that one man could change the whole outcome of the game but these mistakes will continue if not addressed.

2. Mash was unfit. That should be the end of discussion. You don't play 10.5 against 11.

3. You must expedite cloning and get bunch of Shakibs. He can't juggle all the balls at one time. I think he needs to come even down the order as like 6/7.

4. Gag order should have been placed way before the Tourney. Inexperienced management.
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Old March 19, 2011, 08:42 PM
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1. Jaharul is a WK, SN is a top order batsman where we are very thin. The question should be asked why Jaharul was not included and Ashraful was included in Zim series and in the WC squad? With the limited opportunity Jaharul was given he is proven to be a better batsman and a better WK than Mushi. So as a backup he should have been there. Not that one man could change the whole outcome of the game but these mistakes will continue if not addressed.

2. Mash was unfit. That should be the end of discussion. You don't play 10.5 against 11.

3. You must expedite cloning and get bunch of Shakibs. He can't juggle all the balls at one time. I think he needs to come even down the order as like 6/7.

4. Gag order should have been placed way before the Tourney. Inexperienced management.
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Old March 19, 2011, 10:34 PM
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1. Jaharul is a WK, SN is a top order batsman where we are very thin. The question should be asked why Jaharul was not included and Ashraful was included in Zim series and in the WC squad? With the limited opportunity Jaharul was given he is proven to be a better batsman and a better WK than Mushi. So as a backup he should have been there. Not that one man could change the whole outcome of the game but these mistakes will continue if not addressed.

2. Mash was unfit. That should be the end of discussion. You don't play 10.5 against 11.

3. You must expedite cloning and get bunch of Shakibs. He can't juggle all the balls at one time. I think he needs to come even down the order as like 6/7.

4. Gag order should have been placed way before the Tourney. Inexperienced management.
well i loved ur answers but Jahurul is also a TOP order batsmen. he has always opened the batting in domestics.
and he does keeping occasionally. only after getting a call in national team he started to do it more regularly as he realized adding an extra dimension can boost his selection chance. i am still not sure about his keeping qualities
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Old March 19, 2011, 11:08 PM
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No excuses for giving idiots like Ashrafool multiple chances and not giving Jahurul a shot.
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Old March 20, 2011, 05:42 AM
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well i loved ur answers but Jahurul is also a TOP order batsmen. he has always opened the batting in domestics.
and he does keeping occasionally. only after getting a call in national team he started to do it more regularly as he realized adding an extra dimension can boost his selection chance. i am still not sure about his keeping qualities
domestic nayem also scored a hundred.can you really rely on domestic stats of bangladesh? and even if you want,jahiruls last domestic season was not that great.
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Old March 21, 2011, 12:31 PM
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well i loved ur answers but Jahurul is also a TOP order batsmen. he has always opened the batting in domestics.
and he does keeping occasionally. only after getting a call in national team he started to do it more regularly as he realized adding an extra dimension can boost his selection chance. i am still not sure about his keeping qualities
Jahurul cannot stamp like Mushy, but he is much better overall. He does not drop sitters! Skills and height help.
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Old March 19, 2011, 11:05 PM
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1. Jaharul is a WK, SN is a top order batsman where we are very thin. The question should be asked why Jaharul was not included and Ashraful was included in Zim series and in the WC squad? With the limited opportunity Jaharul was given he is proven to be a better batsman and a better WK than Mushi. So as a backup he should have been there. Not that one man could change the whole outcome of the game but these mistakes will continue if not addressed.

2. Mash was unfit. That should be the end of discussion. You don't play 10.5 against 11.

3. You must expedite cloning and get bunch of Shakibs. He can't juggle all the balls at one time. I think he needs to come even down the order as like 6/7.

4. Gag order should have been placed way before the Tourney. Inexperienced management.


Nafees a top order? ya may b against Zim but that too when he is at his best!!
about Mortaza he said he was ready to play...I would not ask this question If Hussey would not be called to play!!
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Old March 20, 2011, 12:48 AM
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Nafees a top order? ya may b against Zim but that too when he is at his best!!
about Mortaza he said he was ready to play...I would not ask this question If Hussey would not be called to play!!
My bad, Nafees is not a top order. Nafees is an opener. Heck Nafis is also an opener.

Who is Mortaza? Is he the physio? What type of doctorate degree he has to claim his fitness level? Did he bowl with his full runup to pass the fitness test? Kono bap'er beta nai jey FULLY fit Mash'rey boshabey. At least in BD context. He has the BCB backing.
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Old March 20, 2011, 01:52 AM
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My bad, Nafees is not a top order. Nafees is an opener. Heck Nafis is also an opener.

Who is Mortaza? Is he the physio? What type of doctorate degree he has to claim his fitness level? Did he bowl with his full runup to pass the fitness test? Kono bap'er beta nai jey FULLY fit Mash'rey boshabey. At least in BD context. He has the BCB backing.
u thought I dint know the definition of top order..look I am also watching cricket for 12 years now....calling Bd's first 4 batsmen top order is an insult to top order actually. I meant it that way, if you cant pick it up , then next time I don't care to explain what I mean.

I was going by Masharfee's statement in a newspaper and not by a member of a forum like you ( and few others obsessed with an Icl played cricket) who I doubt knows little about Mashrafee's fitness just by sitting in front of his computer. You may not know how bad the politics in bd is and its everywhere for your information. They almost kicked out Shakib ( that Lotus Kamal incident I am referring to) ..so they can do it with Mortaza also.

Back to the point..... Prove me how Nafees got a place..now dont bring ashraful here..ashraful we all know has something with BCB ( again I would say another political game).If you can prove what Nafees has done to be in the team, then its worth arguing.
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Old March 20, 2011, 01:55 AM
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u thought I dint know the definition of top order..look I am also watching cricket for 12 years now....calling Bd's first 4 batsmen top order is an insult to top order. I meant it that way, if you cant pick it up , then I don't care to explain what I mean next time.

I was going by Masharfee's statement in a newspaper and not by a member of a forum like you who I doubt knows little about Mashrafee's fitness just by sitting in front of his computer. You may not know how bad the politics in bd is and its everywhere for your information. They almost kicked out Shakib ( that Lotus Kamal incident I am referring to) ..so they can do it with Mortaza also.

Back to the point..... Prove me how Nafees got a place..now dont bring ashraful here..ashraful we all know has something with BCB ( again I would say another political game).If you can prove what Nafees has done to be in the team, then its worth arguing.
But we had tons of people complaining, Nafees was not getting into the team because of politics, now that he is in, you're saying, he made it because of politics?

So which is it?
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Old March 21, 2011, 11:16 AM
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4. Gag order should have been placed way before the Tourney. Inexperienced management.
They were concentrating enforcing Gag order to the fans first, forgetting the players... hmmmm
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you may add another sentence in point 3. Why does shakib bowl at no 6 even when he is our best bowler and opponents are 70/0.
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you may add another sentence in point 3. Why does shakib bowl at no 6 even when he is our best bowler and opponents are 70/0.
Because he doesnt want to get hammered during the PP overs and mess up his bowling averages. Therefore brings himself on when after the 15th over
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1. SN has a high average
2.He's too fragile and just got well after months. He needs rest to get 10% fit.
3.Our coach and captain can't 'adapt to change' as in when there's a domino effect, you send a taileneder as a night guard to see off the new ball or whatever. Our batting line up stays static!
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Old March 19, 2011, 11:02 PM
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1. SN has a high average
2.He's too fragile and just got well after months. He needs rest to get 10% fit.
3.Our coach and captain can't 'adapt to change' as in when there's a domino effect, you send a taileneder as a night guard to see off the new ball or whatever. Our batting line up stays static!
4. No comments.
better averages against whom ? Zimbabwe,ireland??
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Team politics of sakib n siddon

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Jahurul averages 39 against G8 teams. Though early days, but enough said.

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Jahurul averages 39 against G8 teams. Though early days, but enough said.

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which is great!even tamim doesn't have an avg like that!
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1. They probably thought he could reproduce his form from his Zimbabwe days :P. But his career is definitely over. Jaharul needs to get more chances now, we need new players.
2. I'd rather see Mashrafe play for us in the future than risk his career by making him play in the WC.
3. If the entire team s*** themselves after Tamim is out for 0, what do you will happen if Tamim and Shakib are out early? We need to develop new Shakibs and move them up to #3 or 4
4. Defeating Zimbabwe, Kenya, and a weakened West Indies has gotten to their head and they think that things will just happen by themselves.
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You could ask another question what is very valid for WC.

Why JS is so defensive about including newbies or players who were not too long in the national team during his tenure? This question arises from the fact that every team did experiment with different players specially in the bowling department and the result was ominous. Sometimes just to make change they used slight injury as an excuse. The best example is Rassel for West Indies.
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Can anyone from anybody from this forum give me the answer of these 4 qustions. Many may say that these are meaningless now but no , this may happen in future also!!


2. Why was Mashrafe Mortaza not included in the 15 men team. I am asking this because even the best team in the world ( Kangaroos ) kept Hussey in the 15 men team even when he was not fully fit. Wy could not we do that?
Hussey was not in the squad...once Bollinger got 'injured' they got special dispensation for him to join the squad. Not to mention Hussey proved his fitness by playing domestic cricket.

Mashrafe proved his by shedding a few tears.


Bangladesh could have done the same thing to get Mashrafe into the team, but I've heard that it is difficult trying to bowl with a dodgy knee, I'm not a bowler...so feel free to correct me.
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My Question is, why we didn't show considerable improvement in Batting, even after having the best batting coach of the world? Now we know 58 all out wasn't one bad day.
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