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December 26, 2007, 10:35 AM
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Mash down the hill
If Mash doesn't perform well during the rest of the tour, I will definitely drop him for the SA series!!! He is horribly out of touch, unfit, his attitude is certainly not anything VC material. I am one of the BIGGEST admirer of Mash's talent but no one is that special enough to be considered "some are more equal than others"!
If he is suffering from fatigue than that will be much needed. But, I think its not! His body language seems to be too laid back- almost lethergic- for my likings. He is surely carrying a extra few pounds around his waist. An effect of early-marriage in Bangladesh, perhaps!
If it IS the attitude, then BCB needs to drop him without delay. There might be good in it for Mash. Complacency is a wrecker of talent and potential. A good kick on the posterior works better than any other remedy, sometimes!
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December 26, 2007, 11:36 AM
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Yes, he should be dropped.
We should go by performance, not by big names.
He may come back to the line up with his much improved performance in the domestic or A level games.
In the opening spells, he gives up too much runs without any aggression, and Ash is chewing his thump.
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December 26, 2007, 12:09 PM
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about time somebody said it.
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December 26, 2007, 12:16 PM
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The way he is batting is really poor technique, he always keep moving away of the stump.
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December 26, 2007, 12:18 PM
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Against the Indians (WC) he was bowling fireballs with venom. Now 'hit me' balls? A break is needed. However, food intake must be monitored. I do not understand the growing tire around the waist line. He is below 30 and a sports person. How can he have those things?
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December 26, 2007, 12:21 PM
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We lost the match because of our customary batting collapse, not for bowling. In order to put pressure with bowling, we need to put more competitive score on the board.
That being said, I expected little bit more from Mash.
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December 26, 2007, 12:23 PM
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Hello DAC,
We are not discussing on why we lost the match. There are other threads on those issues.
Welcome to BC.
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December 26, 2007, 12:25 PM
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I think the players were wearing something beneath their jersyes.. Mashrafee was even wearing Tusher's vest on top of those protectors!! but with some photos without their jerseys on,, Mashrafee didnt appear to be that stocky..
Nevertheless, Mashrafee was battting and bowling really bad, And as a great admirer of his,, I will also have to agree with that. He was not varying his speed, trying yorkers, full toss,, he was just bowling like Tapash Baishya ( with all due respect to Tapash)
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December 26, 2007, 12:35 PM
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Yeap didn't gave his 100% for sure. May be he knew the out come before so didn't even try like his old boss(bashar).
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December 26, 2007, 01:01 PM
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He is carrying this form well before 20/20 world cup, even at 20-20 he was the weakest link.
He almost forgot how to take wicket, and batting looks like he never bat in his life, thats how he play now days.
So, yes drop him, let him correct his mistake and bring him back when he is ready.
No point taking players, when their are not in form.
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December 26, 2007, 01:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
Against the Indians (WC) he was bowling fireballs with venom. Now 'hit me' balls? A break is needed. However, food intake must be monitored. I do not understand the growing tire around the waist line. He is below 30 and a sports person. How can he have those things?
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This is my point exactly! He can sure turn it on- if he is in the "mood". I hope the relative "stardom" hasn't got to his head. Although, I fear it has! This is the problem of being a Khali jongoley sher. I hope Shahadat and others up and comming bowlers give him a run for his money. We are so starved of their kinds- not that we are excelling in the batting front either.
C'mon MASH! Pull your socks up, fella! You have got it. Dont waste it!
Wish BD boys could have mentors like Imran, Kapil or a Waugh!
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December 26, 2007, 01:07 PM
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problem is we have no meaingful replacement, I am not prepared to change him for Nazmul.
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December 26, 2007, 01:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DAC
We lost the match because of our customary batting collapse, not for bowling. In order to put pressure with bowling, we need to put more competitive score on the board.
That being said, I expected little bit more from Mash.
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Pay attention on what is being discussed here first......
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December 26, 2007, 01:13 PM
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Why is that he only performs exceptionally well against Indians, tamim beat the habit why can't mash, should mash see every bowler and batsman as an indian, maybe we can ask our opponents to wear virendar sehwag face masks.
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December 26, 2007, 01:23 PM
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Mash already lost his focus and does not deserve a place at this level. He can neither restrict run flow nor can he take wickets. We dropped Pilot while he was vice captain. Therefore, team managment should not wait any longer for Mash to be back on track at the expense of the team.
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December 26, 2007, 01:27 PM
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people view him as the best bowler for desh, but really there is nothing there that he can offer for the team, sometimes when he does, he really does put a lot of effort, and when he doesnt, its makes me very mad when he's bowling!!!!
if you wanna play good, you gotta all the time not sometimes!!!
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December 26, 2007, 01:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nafi
problem is we have no meaingful replacement, I am not prepared to change him for Nazmul.
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Yes. But if we continue like this then we will- to borrow IanW's expression- turn a racehorse into a mule...or something to this effect!
BCB has to be pro-active and not reactionary in their conducts. We don't want to see Mash ending up like Alok*- do we now??
*with all respect to Alok. Great talent- serious mismanagement!
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December 26, 2007, 01:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
Against the Indians (WC) he was bowling fireballs with venom. Now 'hit me' balls? A break is needed. However, food intake must be monitored. I do not understand the growing tire around the waist line. He is below 30 and a sports person. How can he have those things?
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What tire?
Pic from Eid.
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December 26, 2007, 01:48 PM
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all great players get droppped. its not unusual. mash has been a staple of our lineup for so long now. perhaps it is time he gets a bit of a respite.
despite being unfit he still clocked 141 k yesterday.
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December 26, 2007, 01:53 PM
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Let Jamie work with the team a little longer. He asked for it. If we keep changing the team on him - which has become a trend - his work will go in vain. He only had a less than a month. His concentration might yet to have trickled down to Mash. Wait and see.
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December 26, 2007, 02:27 PM
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I dont think people should give up on Mash. I agree, let Jamie work with him a bit longer. Better bowlers than mash has gone through a lame period and retuned.
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December 26, 2007, 02:29 PM
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Mash will come back strong in the 2nd game. Just have faith in him.
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December 26, 2007, 02:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zainab
I dont think people should give up on Mash. I agree, let Jamie work with him a bit longer. Better bowlers than mash has gone through a lame period and retuned.
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Nobody is giving up on Mash here!
We're just giving him some deshi "bash". Do you know what is Bash, Zainab?
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December 26, 2007, 02:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BanCricFan
Do you know what is Bash, Zainab?
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She doesn't. She's not Bangladeshi.
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December 26, 2007, 03:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muradnyc
She doesn't. She's not Bangladeshi.
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Im bangladeshi and I dont know what it is.
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