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View Poll Results: Who do you recon will be the next debutant in Bangladesh team?
Shamsur Rahman 12 29.27%
Marshall Ayub 5 12.20%
Suhrawardi Shuvo 19 46.34%
Someone else 5 12.20%
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Old August 24, 2009, 11:35 PM
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ya, have same feeling about Nayeem. Its been almost two years of International cricket for Nayeem, still he has not score any half-century yet. One can argue that Nayeem has not got enough chances. Here lies the question, then why are we playing a batsman at that position where he is not getting chance to bat at all in 2 years time, rather just bowling few overs in match. We can always play a bowler there and get better service. Nayeem's batting skills is not an addition in our team anyway.

Promote Nayeem in the top order, play him as a batsman and see what he is capable of.
yeah that's pretty much it, we still don't really know what naeem is capable of with the bat and his batting is meant to be his strength.
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Old August 24, 2009, 11:39 PM
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Marshall Ayub. This guy has been so consistent now a days for our academy team. But it would be better if he can play more 2 years for BCB academy team and gather more experience. I think he will be another good middle order batsman with Shakib.
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Old August 24, 2009, 11:58 PM
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there are enough talent surrounding the national team now that guys like marshall ayub, rony talukder and nasir hossain can actually pay their dues and do their time in domestic cricket before coming to the national team. the batting is covered with tamim, junaid, ash, shakib, riyad, naeem, mushy, imrul, mehrab, NI, shamsur, SN, alok, and aftab. i'd even be willing to give batsmen like nazmus sadat and nazimuddin more chances unless the youngsters have really really proven themselves.

spin allrounders are covered with shakib, naeem, riyad, shuvo and if they have to mehrab and alok can do those roles as well.

pacers are covered even with the current injuries but just to list all the pacers that are around there is mash, rasel, rubel, robin, robiul, sajidul, ziaur, tahla, nazmul, dollar, sumon saha, maybe even delwar hossain (subashis probably needs more domestic/academy/A team time).

keepers are covered with mushy, dhiman, saghir so mithun can spend a little longer developing (he might play t20s but otherwise the national team is covered for keepers atm).

for spinners we have enamul, razzak, shakib, shuvo, nabil samad possibly saqlain sajib and saju datta.

the only area where the national team isn't covered atm is pace allrounders, there aren't any test quality ones and reza is probably the only ODI one, nazmul hossain milon is a maybe.

unless a youngster has shown exceptional talent, exceptional application and exceptional consistency i don't see why we can't give them more development time than we have with previous groups of players.
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Old August 25, 2009, 12:12 AM
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I agree with Gowza - there is no point having a batsman slash part time spinner at #8. Once Mashrafe returns, he should be the #8. That means someone from Riyad and Naeem will have to be benched, making way for another specialist spinner. Razzak should be a sure selection if fully fit, so the competition will be between Enamul and Suhrawardi (and Mosharraf, when he becomes eligible for selection) for the other specialist spinner slot.
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Old August 25, 2009, 12:41 AM
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I agree with Gowza - there is no point having a batsman slash part time spinner at #8. Once Mashrafe returns, he should be the #8. That means someone from Riyad and Naeem will have to be benched, making way for another specialist spinner. Razzak should be a sure selection if fully fit, so the competition will be between Enamul and Suhrawardi (and Mosharraf, when he becomes eligible for selection) for the other specialist spinner slot.
enam will be dropped for razzaq, if any one from riad.naeem is to be dropped it has to be for a pacer
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Old August 25, 2009, 02:18 AM
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unless injury takes people out, i dont see why we need to make a debut.

making debuts shudnt be an immediate aim. shud be done wen called for.
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good thread Eshen.
nice summary Gowza!
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S. Shuve should replace Enamul in Zim series...
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S. Shuve should replace Enamul in Zim series...
Razzak will be returning, thus...
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Old August 25, 2009, 04:39 AM
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Although a very consistent performer in domestic leagues, Shuvo's stats for A-team or the academy team hardly show any promise.

I think it's very possible that current U/19 spin spin quartet - Shabbir Rahman (LB), Nur Hossain (LB), Mahmudul Hasan (OB), and Shaker Ahmed (SLA) will outshine both Shuvo and Enamul within next couple of years. Shabbir, Nur, and Mahmud can be also considered bowling allrounders.
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S Shuvo is an SLA. We have 3, Shakib, Enam, and Raj. So I think the other Shuvo (Shamsur) has better chance.
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Old August 25, 2009, 10:03 AM
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it depends on what sort of debutants we are talking about. I can see the likes of Mithun (or maybe even rony talukdar) debuting in T20 cricket and perhaps Shamsur rahman in ODIs. In tests I think bowlers are more likely to debut, so maybe we'll get a look at Shuvo or Subashish Roy.
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Suhrawardi Shuvo will be the next debutant
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Old August 25, 2009, 10:05 AM
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Gowza rightly points out Nabil samad. He's a fine prospect and could debut soon...
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Old August 25, 2009, 10:15 AM
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Team is doing fine. I wouldnt pick anyone
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I have to admit though I am in two minds whether selectors should bring in another debutant in the team before WC'11 or should stick with players that are already capped.
Stick with the current players, swap with ICL-ers if required. No debutantes unless hell freezes over.
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Old August 25, 2009, 10:18 AM
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I don't want to see any new batsman. New players like Riad and Nayeem should be given more chances. It would be a bad practice to continue if we drop them and bring new batsmen.

But we need to try new pace bowers and leg spinners with good potentials. Bowling dept is really a matter of worry now these days. SLAs won't win many matches for us.
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some what depends on the next new set selectors among other things ....
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I prefer both Sohrawardy Shuvo and Marshall Ayub. But had to vote for Shuvo as only one can be voted.
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I'd like to see Marshall Ayub make his debut for BD, he is a good allrounder and averages 31 with the bat and 29 with the ball in FC.. but he is a spinner and we already have 2 spinners in Mehrab Hossain and Shaikb Al Hasan.
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We need to experiment with new players in the upcoming tour against Zimbabwe. If they preform well, they are likely to be picked for matches against the G8.

The selectors need too experiment a lot to make the best team possible for WC 2011. Because I don't want to see players playing one or two games and then play in the World Cup.

BTW, our team needs to find a good pacer like Mashrafe fast. I don't want any of the English players to face the new Rasel. He used to be good, but these days he is useless.
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Shuvo is the only viable debutant I see at this moment. Besides, his inclusion is overdue. We need to see how well he performs in the international matches. The selectors must give him a chance to see his skills, otherwise bias will prevail.
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BTW, our team needs to find a good pacer like Mashrafe fast. I don't want any of the English players to face the new Rasel. He used to be good, but these days he is useless.
I agree, experiment with Dolar, Robin, Rasel, Nazmul and even Shahadat (if he has improved his disclipine)

I want a good Pace trio formed before the Tri-series and against England & Wales
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Shuvo is the only viable debutant I see at this moment. Besides, his inclusion is overdue. We need to see how well he performs in the international matches. The selectors must give him a chance to see his skills, otherwise bias will prevail.
I thought he should have been called up instead of Enamul Haque Jnr in the Zimbabwe series. The ODI format doesnt seem to suit Enamul. So in situation where Razzak is not available i think our selectors should try Shuvo.
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Old August 25, 2009, 11:36 PM
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Arrey bhais, where is multiple option choice? I wanted vote for Suhwardy Shuvo and Marshall Ayub and Shamsur Shuvo more, I mean others! But the poll only took one man!

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btw, i know it's a bit too early, but i think anamul/enamul from the current under 19 team can be a very good prospect in future. unfortunately, i don't go on the stats very often, but this guy has class in his batting. he knows every kind of shots in the book, i guess pull being his personal favorite and is surely a treat to watch him on song. alas!! even after being frustrated so many times by ash, i cannot escape loving and favoring class than anything else in batting. only thing i have against anamul is he needs time to develop more temperament. he still has a habit of throwing away good starts by him.
btw, he is a decent wicket keeper also, and bats in the top order.


among the three player, i guess shuvo has the best chance, since i don't see any player in the current team filling the void made by rafique. (even, i think after the departure of rafique, razzak had lost his style, a calm presense of rafique and occaisional clever tips is what is missing.) marshal ayub has also impressed me, he can be a good number three batsman i guess. but shamsur , i think is not prepared yet and needs a bit time, say one more year.
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