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Old August 1, 2006, 10:47 AM
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Default Who selects the final eleven?

I don't know the whole process. Would like to know.

The three selectors select the first 15, I know that. What happens after that?

How much influence does the selectors have after that uptill the final selection? How would they communicate when the team is overseas? Do all three travel with the team? Does the coach has any power? How about the captain? By the way, I am talking about Bangladesh National cricket team selection process.
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Old August 1, 2006, 10:49 AM
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I guess the coach and the captain.
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Old August 1, 2006, 11:05 AM
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I guess the coach and the captain.
Then Fazal should take back his ultra defensive comment of our selectors and reignite the faith he has on them.
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Old August 1, 2006, 11:08 AM
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If a selector is present there he and if he says something, of course coach and captian will take that into account.

but, in a regular process coach and captain selects the 11. of course they will get all the help from anyone they can.
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Old August 1, 2006, 11:21 AM
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I think Team Manager, Coach and Captain (Team Management) selects the final XI and they consult with the selectors.
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Old August 1, 2006, 11:23 AM
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i think its combined process- selectors, coach and captain but selectors have the final say.
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Old August 1, 2006, 11:27 AM
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Guys we are all guesiing here....nobody knows exactly who are responsible.... thats how they can avoid the blame....but take the praise.... therefore is no clearcut accountability.... now see the bigger picture of the problem?

Sadi, "I guess...."
Miraz, "I think...."
Sorry, "I think...."
Sydney, "i think so too..."
Rubu: too many ifs in his statement
Mac: Too vague. Need Specific names or positions.

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yah..i think so too.. coach manager and captain selects..
but i think in our team, coach has the final say
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Selectors and the team management. Surely.
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Old August 1, 2006, 01:48 PM
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At home, the selectors decide the playing 11. On away tours, the captain, coach and the manager decides.
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Old August 1, 2006, 01:55 PM
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At home, the selectors decide the playing 11. On away tours, the captain, coach and the manager decides.
....This is the truth...........
But i believe, our goat-sana (selectors) tries to pock noses even in away series.......
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Old August 1, 2006, 02:04 PM
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I am 100% sure politicians ( including politican selectors, politician coach, Politician captain, politician people & us)...damn politicis is everywhere...if i knew that i would have been politicians. Why our parents, gradn parents, in-laws, fourteen generations want us to be doc,eng,programmers and business men when Politicians decide everything. WE WILL WIN ONLY by doing Politics!!!
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DAMN abaro matha "Alauaei gese" , "chokke andhar dekhei"
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Old August 1, 2006, 02:36 PM
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I take my answer back:

the guy with the invisible strings with his fingure decides the playing 11.
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Old August 1, 2006, 02:40 PM
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the selectors decide the team and captain, then it is the captain
who decides before the match, the coach can only make suggestion.

in bd's case, the soft guy bashar may actually have no say and its DW who make all the decisions. just a guess .
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The selection of the playing eleven was always heavly influenced by the selectors. It was very apparent during the England series, and also during the last series against Sri Lanka. But this time, no selector is traveling with the team, so it is not clear how much is their affect now on the team selection.

Anyway, one thing is clear- DW's spine is not that strong as most of us fan used to think it was.
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Old August 1, 2006, 02:58 PM
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Kind of off topic.

This time selectors may not be traveling, but other officials are traveling not at the invitation of Zim, but at the cost of BCB's money to watch the remaining three games, traveling 1st class, stayin in 5 star hotel and milking the hefty daily allownace, and doing some shopping I guess:

the executives who are traveling, are:

1. Shah Nurul Kabir Shaheen, M.P.
2. Asaduzzam Khusru
3. Shaheen Aftabur Reza
4. Soilab Hiossain Tutul

Each will cost 4.5 lack Taka. (total cost for these four is 18 lacks taka)
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I wish instead of this people traveling to ZIM, they could have fly Tushar instead, even he will not be used in the game.

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Old August 1, 2006, 03:02 PM
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Kind of off topic.

This time selectors may not be traveling, but other officials are traveling not at the invitation of Zim, but at the cost of BCB's money to watch the remaining three games, traveling 1st class, stayin in 5 star hotel and milking the hefty daily allownace, and doing some shopping I guess:

the executives who are traveling, are:

1. Shah Nurul Kabir Shaheen, M.P.
2. Asaduzzam Khusru
3. Shaheen Aftabur Reza
4. Soilab Hiossain Tutul

Each will cost 4.5 lack Taka.
-- Source Dail Inqelab

I wish instead of this people traveling to ZIM, they could have fly Tushar instead, even he will not used in the game.
FOUR ppl traveling to watch the game!
and can't send our players to different country for leagues or even to play !!!
I wish i can cut their....
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Old August 1, 2006, 03:15 PM
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....the executives who are traveling, are:

1. Shah Nurul Kabir Shaheen, M.P.
2. Asaduzzam Khusru
3. Shaheen Aftabur Reza
4. Soilab Hiossain Tutul

Each will cost 4.5 lack Taka. (total cost for these four is 18 lacks taka)
-- Source Dail Inqelab
...
So these guys are there to select the best 11 since the selectors are not there?
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Sucks...
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Old August 1, 2006, 03:24 PM
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So these guys are there to select the best 11 since the selectors are not there?
Good question. The reason for their trip is not well communicated in the media and therefore not well understood by the fan.

If they do (get involved in team selection), they can try to justify their spending. However that means, more bad news for the team. I hope they better concentrate on their shoping list given by their family and friends.

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Off course, those BCB official do not have any say in selecting the final XI. If they do, it will be a practice of undue exercise. Even the Team Manager has nothing to do with the selection, as in most cases, this post belongs to somebody, who is not a cricket expert (e.g. Mr. Latif). For our team, it is mainly 80% of DW and 20 % of HB. If any selector is present in the tour, he has 40% share with DW 50% anf HB 10%. This is purely my analysis (rather speculation).
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Old August 1, 2006, 03:51 PM
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If they do (get involved in team selection), they can try to justify their spending. However that means, more bad news for the team. I hope they better concentrate on their shoping list given by their family and friends.
That explains why Javed is still on the team. Now please don't tell me they only go there for shopping. Who picks Javed then??
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Old August 1, 2006, 03:56 PM
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Off course, those BCB official do not have any say in selecting the final XI. If they do, it will be a practice of undue exercise. Even the Team Manager has nothing to do with the selection, as in most cases, this post belongs to somebody, who is not a cricket expert (e.g. Mr. Latif). For our team, it is mainly 80% of DW and 20 % of HB. If any selector is present in the tour, he has 40% share with DW 50% anf HB 10%. This is purely my analysis (rather speculation).
See now you are confusing me again. After reading Mahmood's explaination, I thought I under stood the process. You are saying Manager has no say in team selection, where as Mahmood is saying in away series, Team Manager is also involved in team selection.

See thats the problem. No one knows for sure how a team is selected. Every body is guessing. No supporting info about their claim. Thats the problem w e have here. I bet if you ask the BCB execuitves the same question seperately, you will get five different version.

Thats the problem here. No concrete procedure and therefore no accountability.
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Kind of off topic.

This time selectors may not be traveling, but other officials are traveling not at the invitation of Zim, but at the cost of BCB's money to watch the remaining three games, traveling 1st class, stayin in 5 star hotel and milking the hefty daily allownace, and doing some shopping I guess:

the executives who are traveling, are:

1. Shah Nurul Kabir Shaheen, M.P.
2. Asaduzzam Khusru
3. Shaheen Aftabur Reza
4. Soilab Hiossain Tutul

Each will cost 4.5 lack Taka. (total cost for these four is 18 lacks taka)
-- Source Dail Inqelab

I wish instead of this people traveling to ZIM, they could have fly Tushar instead, even he will not be used in the game.
wow. we got a member of parliament along with some 'soilab' etc traveling in public money and doing shopping (in public money too?). richest politicians of the poorest nation.
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