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September 4, 2010, 01:33 PM
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Analyzing Abdur Razzak, but he doesn't agree!
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September 4, 2010, 01:54 PM
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Razzak is definitely not the same but we need him to go good for the world cup.
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September 4, 2010, 02:17 PM
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he needs to stop giving away too many runs in his overs,apart from that he is a good 50 ovr bowler.
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September 4, 2010, 02:41 PM
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Slight change needed to be made on that chart.
The second bar should be from 2008-2010 i guess, right ?
Nice report by the way.
We'd expect more of these from DS in the coming days.
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September 4, 2010, 02:54 PM
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Rajjak was bending upto 27 degrees before his action called illegal. he is not same Rajjak after changing his action. his days are over imo
Plus his reasoning is also poor in the article. T20 is not any excuse, Shakib can still maintain good econ. so as R> Price, Vettori etc. Bowling legside in every 2 balls and bowling way too many short balls has nothing to do with t20 cricket. We are actually conceding more runs than his bowling figures suggest...atleast 6-8 runs conceded from bye and leg-bye from his wide ball and leg-side ball. These runs are not added to his bowling figure.
Nowadays he cant bowl, cant field, cant hit sixes, gives too much runs in tight situation.We need a good replacement in line 2nd spinner. Shuvo also proved in-effective.
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September 4, 2010, 03:11 PM
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Another good article from Isam.
Well, Razzak needs to adjust his bowling, and, yes, indeed.
But what is about his batting, which has been going south as well.
I was under the impression that he was one of our flourishing sla allrounders.
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September 4, 2010, 03:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by _Rafi_
Rajjak was bending upto 27 degrees before his action called illegal. he is not same Rajjak after changing his action. his days are over imo
Plus his reasoning is also poor in the article. T20 is not any excuse, Shakib can still maintain good econ. so as R> Price, Vettori etc. Bowling legside in every 2 balls and bowling way too many short balls has nothing to do with t20 cricket. We are actually conceding more runs than his bowling figures suggest...atleast 6-8 runs conceded from bye and leg-bye from his wide ball and leg-side ball. These runs are not added to his bowling figure.
Nowadays he cant bowl, cant field, cant hit sixes, gives too much runs in tight situation.We need a good replacement in line 2nd spinner. Shuvo also proved in-effective.
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I reckon razzak just needs some extra practise especially on accuracy, i remember even this year on that second odi against england in bangladesh, he was proving to get better, and i wouldnt call shuvo ineffective, i reckon hes more useful for longer version
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September 4, 2010, 04:31 PM
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his career is over...only reason he is still in the team because of his exp. the max he will last is till the wc...there r few spinners are fighting for his place and those r Nur Hossain(ls)/Shaker Ahmed(sla)/Mahmudul Hasan(ob).
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September 4, 2010, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by nadim 98
his career is over...only reason he is still in the team because of his exp. the max he will last is till the wc...there r few spinners are fighting for his place and those r Nur Hossain(ls)/Shaker Ahmed(sla)/Mahmudul Hasan(ob).
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i really like razzak, inshallah this aint the case
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September 4, 2010, 05:30 PM
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Razaak has definately lost his mojo after his bowling action was classfied illegal.
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September 4, 2010, 10:24 PM
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Seeing these comments made by Raj doesn't give me hope for him..how can he not know that he's performing worse then before? Players should know when their doing good or bad..on top of that he blames it on the intro to T20s? Ridiculous..
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September 4, 2010, 11:19 PM
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Admitting your mistakes and trying to improve on them is always the right thing to do. I can't see himself getting any better with this kind of attitude. I hope i'm wrong. Good luck to him.
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September 5, 2010, 05:20 AM
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he's an asset for bd cricket.he's only 28,has a lot of time left to improve his bowling.i hope to see the old razzak back before the WC,an inform razzak,mash,shafiul and shakib will give our bowling a very strong backbone
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September 5, 2010, 05:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by simon
he needs to stop giving away too many runs in his overs,apart from that he is a good 50 ovr bowler.
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Um... wouldn't all bowlers be good if they conceded less runs per over?
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September 5, 2010, 10:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by _Rafi_
Rajjak was bending upto 27 degrees before his action called illegal. he is not same Rajjak after changing his action. his days are over imo
Plus his reasoning is also poor in the article. T20 is not any excuse, Shakib can still maintain good econ. so as R> Price, Vettori etc. Bowling legside in every 2 balls and bowling way too many short balls has nothing to do with t20 cricket. We are actually conceding more runs than his bowling figures suggest...atleast 6-8 runs conceded from bye and leg-bye from his wide ball and leg-side ball. These runs are not added to his bowling figure.
Nowadays he cant bowl, cant field, cant hit sixes, gives too much runs in tight situation.We need a good replacement in line 2nd spinner. Shuvo also proved in-effective.
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Top post..if T20s have been disrupting his bowling then why hasn't Shakib suffered? He's still been economical and picks up a lot of wickets..and like the article says Shakib doesn't use too many variations..he's just very accurate and that gets him wickets..also a lot of Raj's wickets came from his chucking action..harsh to say but all these years Raj has been a chucker and now when he changes his action he can't even buy a wicket..when he plays tests it really shows how poor of a wicket taker he is..and what's with the leg side bowling? Does he really think that will be the line to bowl to get wickets? No wonder he thinks he's doing fine because I'm hardly seeing any changes from him..I like Raj but I think time has come to give other players an extended run..I mean we have so many SLA's that are waiting to play..Shuvo needs 5 more matches before I can rate him..just playing 5 matches and 1 match he bowled only 3 overs just doesn't really prove whether he's good or not..Saqlain needs an extended run as well..he's been so consistent in domestics so he should get a few chances..Samad's another player we should also trial out..we need to experiment with our SLA's more because Shakib is the only SLA that puts pressure on the other..we don't have another player to put the pressure..its getting sad that Mahmudullah/Naeem is putting more pressure on the batsmen then Raj and he's our specialist bowler!!
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