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View Poll Results: Will this decision make our WC agt Ireland tougher?
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Old December 14, 2010, 07:24 AM
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Default Irish Players in DPL? Is it going to backfire?

William Porterfield & Neil O' Brian are supposed to be part of this year's DPL.
They are going to play for Abahani.

In the past, Mohammedan did the same with S. Tikolo & M. Oudumbe and both of them made us to suffer a lot.

I just can't accept this decision, esp. when world cup is knocking at the doors.
Why?
Because -

* Ireland is our fiercest competitor outside the Test World
* They have beaten us in the last world cup where WP scored 85
* They have beaten us in our last tour in ireland where WP scored 108
* That same WP struggled when he played in our country in 2008 in all 3 matches
* Playing in our conditions, they will get the invaluable opportunity to acclimatize to our conditions

My fear is such experiences will backfire when we would meet them in our world cup match.

so... please stay away from this self-destructive decision.

n.b. this has no relation to my liking/disliking of Abahani as a team.
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Old December 14, 2010, 07:33 AM
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dont be so selfish

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Old December 14, 2010, 07:35 AM
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This is a prime indication of defeatist and [as 98% of BC members will call] "sissy" attitude. If The Irish players are getting exposure to the conditions, then the Bangladeshi bowlers will also find their weakness by bowling at them.
And our cricket does not stop at world cup, we have to go beyond that. Bringing in players like William and Neil will certainly boost the competition in the local league and be beneficial for local players.
As for getting used to conditions, I doubt two players playing in DPL for a month will make the whole Ireland team unbeatable.
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Old December 14, 2010, 07:37 AM
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hmm..it can back fire..i am hoping it wont..but still i dont think ire can beat us in Bangladesh..they will struggle to play razzak..
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Old December 14, 2010, 07:38 AM
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dont be so selfish

"The more I help others to succeed, the more I succeed."
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my friend, only one team succeeds in a cricket match!
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Old December 14, 2010, 07:42 AM
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This is a prime indication of defeatist and [as 98% of BC members will call] "sissy" attitude.
nice to know that u can perfectly read the mind of that many ppl. keep it up!
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Old December 14, 2010, 07:53 AM
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jisaan - don't get so sensitive. Just because people are disagreeing with your a priori postulated premise, you don't have to get disagreeable.

If we have to worry about Irish players learning the tricks of the trade in a few days, then we have bigger things to worry about. We might as well close shop. Perhaps, we should not even play anyone, lest they figure out how to handle our SLAs.
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Old December 14, 2010, 08:21 AM
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look at ipl..india allowed outsitde players to play there..if they thought it could backfire them,surely they wouldnt...in my opnion not only irish some other better player from test playing nation shud come also..previously we have seen so many players done so well in domestic..n they fail terribly at internationals(rokon,hannan sarker,nazimuddin)...the more they play with better player the more they can learn their weakness..

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Old December 14, 2010, 09:33 AM
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Having quality international players is important for the development of our cricket. As it is, our national XI is limite to a small pool of players and our other players need any exposure they can get to quality players.

Our ascension up the cricket ladder should be based on our ability and not strategy that involves us using underhanded tactics against those beneath us. The way we keep the Irish beneath us is to beat them handily on the cricket ground where they have no excuses.

Question to Jiisan, would you also propose that county cricket make it a point not to reach out to our players whenever we have playing engagements in Europe?
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look at ipl..india allowed outsitde players to play there..if they thought it could backfire them,surely they wouldnt...in my opnion not only irish some other better player from test playing nation shud come also..previously we have seen so many players done so well in domestic..n they fail terribly at internationals(rokon,hannan sarker,nazimuddin)...the more they play with better player the more they can learn their weakness..

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Old December 14, 2010, 09:43 AM
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Playing a few matches here won't help those Irish players much. Had they played here for a longer period like Shakib did for Worcs in England, then they might have acclimatized with our condition.
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We should welcome any players that want to play. Why should we be that scared to play Ireland thinking they will acclimatize in our conditions? Are we still that worried about beating Ireland? We should be able to beat them whenever and wherever. They are ranked below us and with our team we shouldn't have a problem with them. If we lose to them it won't be because of the players playing in the DPL. It will be because we still have problems with our team.
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Old December 14, 2010, 09:44 AM
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haha.....bohut hashi pailo
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Old December 14, 2010, 09:52 AM
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I wish they weren't playing in our conditions right before the world cup either! Call me names all u want. We need to make the qf at any cost. Cannot have any slip ups. This our home World Cup after all.
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Old December 14, 2010, 11:23 AM
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We have never beaten ire in any WC..we lost to them in07 wc and in t20 wc 09...this time its again wc and we r playing them so i guess jisaan vai was trying to say "better safe then sorry"
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Old December 14, 2010, 11:27 AM
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If we are afraid by ireland on our own conditions , its better to give up cricket

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Old December 14, 2010, 11:28 AM
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We have never beaten ire in any WC..we lost to them in07 wc and in t20 wc 09...this time its again wc and we r playing them so i guess jisaan vai was trying to say "better safe then sorry"
sage & sensible....
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jisaan - don't get so sensitive. Just because people are disagreeing with your a priori postulated premise, you don't have to get disagreeable.

If we have to worry about Irish players learning the tricks of the trade in a few days, then we have bigger things to worry about. We might as well close shop. Perhaps, we should not even play anyone, lest they figure out how to handle our SLAs.
everything is fare in love & war...
why give our 'enemies' the slightest of the chances? yes, i do consider them as an 'enemy' on cricket field.

no other team has given us so many heartbreaks in recent times.

now the BIG picture:
1st match agt India
2nd Match agt Ireland

Won't like to predict the result of the 1st match but Another LOSS to the Irish might mean ....

i am just trying to play safe...!

Don't we have any other options/better options than those two?????
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Old December 14, 2010, 11:49 AM
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If we are afraid by ireland on our own conditions , its better to give up cricket

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we have to be...
they have beaten us in WC '07 & T20 WC.
they have beaten us just after our win in England

.... fortunately or unfortunately, we haven't given up cricket

yes, u are right.... "OUR CONDITION' is our greatest strength this time!
is it wise to expose your conditions just before the wc?

i won't be worried at all, should they come afterwards..
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TBH I wont mind Irish players coming to play in DPL, but since they are in our group and we have to win that game to go to the 2nd round, we should try to keep them in the dark about our condition as much as possible. I have no problem bringing them here in 2011 but we should try not to have them play here just months before the WC. Just play safe...
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Old December 14, 2010, 12:15 PM
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don't worry we got Masud Rana !! that BCI spy is now in Ireland after month long mission in India to collect valuable info of Indian cricketers.also we have Tin Goyenda who are currently on a vacation to South Africa but they are actually tracking SA cricketers as well !
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If we are afraid by ireland on our own conditions , its better to give up cricket

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One month in Bangladesh, Porterfield will not be a master blaster.
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Old December 14, 2010, 12:28 PM
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One month in Bangladesh, Porterfield will not be a master blaster.
its a 100 over game where two good innings can easily change the course of the game.
with our track record of losing to Canada, Ireland... there is no room for complacency...
I would say don't even give opposition players a sniff of our wicket till the warm-up games...
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Old December 14, 2010, 12:39 PM
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well considering some of the previous records by Bangladesh against Ireland, we as a fan have the right to be concerned about their visit. Look at ZIM, by the end they got pretty good against the spinners and Razzaq finished with no wicket. It shows how improvement can be made if the players get used to it. On the other had, its only 2-3 players thats coming here...they can learn all they want. What did worry me is Chris Gayles visit.......... His team is in our pool, and in order for us to make it to the next round, beating WI is a must. He is the key player, so hope he doesnt get too used to the condition............

At the end,
Its Ireland! they beat us at home because of bad condition. At our own ground, they have much less chance................
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