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Old January 20, 2011, 03:54 AM
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i watched both the 2nd and 3rd odi from the stadium. in the 3rd ODI mash was very good.

but in the 2nd odi he was pure crap. also in the 1st odi. even mash's body language while fielding looked totally negative.

now , we never know which side of mashrafe we would have seen if he was playing against IND on 18th february. but its more probable that we would have seen the crap mashrafe of the 1st and 2nd ODI struggling for match fitness after a injury recovery. we risked mash in two games against zim where he bowled 5 and 3 overs to give him some match practice. surely

but still we could have kept mash in the squad and replace him later if he could not gain match fitness.
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Old January 20, 2011, 04:02 AM
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but still we could have kept mash in the squad and replace him later if he could not gain match fitness.
He surely would have struggled for form against Ind.

But he can still accompany the team in the dressing room, I think he can help the new pacers to adapt quickly. It's too big for these guys and they need a lot of encouragement from the senior players to do well.
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Old January 20, 2011, 10:59 AM
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Dj watch the 3rd zimbabwe match. U will see if he is good or aged... and he can do anything in sub continent...
Akabir,

You missed my point. Let me quote it again.

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My observation of him being past his sell-by date is NOT a remark based on his AGE or his recent exploits against ZIMBABWE or his superb bowling against England at Birmingham but on a) His constant injury that has made him highly unreliable and half the force he once was and b) My recollection of his performance of late on subcontinental pitches against MAJOR teams.
On the asides, purely for sentimental reasons, i would've taken him in the final-15. And i would definitely take him ahead of Ashraful except that they have different roles in the team.
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Old January 20, 2011, 01:07 PM
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i watched both the 2nd and 3rd odi from the stadium. in the 3rd ODI mash was very good.

but in the 2nd odi he was pure crap. also in the 1st odi. even mash's body language while fielding looked totally negative.
There is another side of the story. In first two matches against Zimbabwe, pacers were very much under used. Shafi did not do better than Mash as well. Only spinners were enough.

In match 3 and 4, both the pacers did great. Shafi got the wickets in match 3 and Mash got in match 4; but both of them bowled greatly in those matches.
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Old January 20, 2011, 01:53 PM
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Have to agree with DJ. Mash at this point is a huge distraction for the national team and an obstacle for a young pacer to come up the pipeline.
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Old January 21, 2011, 01:55 AM
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Old January 24, 2011, 11:26 AM
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He surely would have struggled for form against Ind.

But he can still accompany the team in the dressing room, I think he can help the new pacers to adapt quickly. It's too big for these guys and they need a lot of encouragement from the senior players to do well.
If he so chooses, he should be able to pass on a lot of wisdom to the new pace bowlers. He went from an express bowler to a smart, but slower bowler due to injuries, etc, and still managed to be effective. Perhaps, he can be Pont's assistant coach after he retires.
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Old January 24, 2011, 12:51 PM
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Here is the comparison of our pace bowlers. Do the math yourself as who is the better one...

MASHRAFEE: 27 YEARS OLD
SpanMatInnsOversMdnsRunsWktsBBIAveEconSR45
overall2001-2010118118979.48745151466/2630.924.6040.251


RUBEL:
SpanMatInnsOversMdnsRunsWktsBBIAveEconSR45
overall2009-20102121158.36918254/2536.725.7938.020


NAZMUL:
SpanMatInnsOversMdnsRunsWktsBBIAveEconSR45
overall2004-20103433244.5201268384/4033.365.1738.610


SHAFIUL:
MatInnsOversMdnsRunsWktsBBIAveEconSR45
overall2323160.561010324/4331.566.2730.130



SHAHADAT:
SpanMatInnsOversMdnsRunsWktsBBIAveEconSR45
overall2006-20104645321.2181824423/3443.425.6745.900
Actually you are very wrong. Mash is currently not the mash he used to be a couple of years ago. In the last two years his bowling average for ODIs is 44.54. His highest run score in last 2 years is only 22. Face it everyone mash is not the mash he used to be. Shafiul Rubel And Shahadat have better bowling stats for the past two years. Its about a players present form, not past. This is his ODI stats http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...;type=allround
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Old January 24, 2011, 12:52 PM
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nazmuls stats is even better than mash's stats
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Old January 24, 2011, 12:59 PM
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In tests mash's bowling average for the last three years is only 56.08
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Old January 24, 2011, 01:01 PM
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So mashrafee isn't really that good. Even if he wasn't injured I wouldn't pick him. Who cares about experience
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IMO it is better to have a 100% match fit player than a player who is not.

What if Mashrafee bowls 3 overs and starts having problems and cant play the rest of the match, the team will already be 1 man down.

Too risky to include Mashrafee IMO
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Old February 20, 2011, 12:48 PM
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lol, HAD to revive this thread

Mashrafee would NOT have been injured forever. Even if he is not 100% fit and he was excluded for the game against India, I would not have minded too much because I know and everyone acknowledges the fact that he is the best pacer from Bangladesh, and his form in recent times has been pretty good in the international arena. we know by mid march he would have been 100% fit and we can still select him for these remaining games. oh well, too late
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We still have enough in our arsenal to defeat the indians.
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Bangladesh's Win (agt any team) = 100% Joy
India's Loss (agt any team) = 100% Joy
So, only opportunity for me to double my joy is when Bangladesh BEATs India!!!
sorry bud, it didn't happen
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