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Old August 6, 2007, 09:35 AM
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Default Bangladesh Academy tour to Australia. New BCB raised to many questions?



Bangladesh Academy team to tour Australia next month but new formed BCB have raised plenty questions. This tour was organised by last BCB and it would cost 80 lakh taka. They will play 2 four day match (Tasmania and Norther terrotory) and 5 one dayer opposition unknown.

This are the reason
1- Tour will cost BCB 80 lakh taka (they wont get penny from Oz even if they win every game)
2- playing against unknown opposition (although 4 day match is confirmed, one dayers still has not)
3- Opposition team? are the going to name their best squad have they played any first classs cricket(no point playing novice cricketer just because they are aussie)
4- Why cant BD academy play against subcontinental team at least they will play against qulaity players.


I agree with new BCB
What is your thought ?

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Old August 6, 2007, 09:42 AM
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Based on what you've said, here's what I think:
This is the same thing like studying abroad as foreign student. I see no reason why Australia will play us and still pay us for our development. New BCB probably doesn't think of it this way.

The question about opposition team is legitimate.

The last question re subcontinental team, I don't think that makes sense. The reason academy team is going to Australia is because it's a deal that's been made with the Aussie board for our cricket development. Part of it is not only how to play in Aussie conditions, but also to learn hwo to play on bouncy pitches like the ones in Australia. If it was SL, may be many of us would've been happier. But I see no problem with the last concern.
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Old August 6, 2007, 10:17 AM
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Based on what you've said, here's what I think:
This is the same thing like studying abroad as foreign student. I see no reason why Australia will play us and still pay us for our development. New BCB probably doesn't think of it this way.

The question about opposition team is legitimate.

The last question re subcontinental team, I don't think that makes sense. The reason academy team is going to Australia is because it's a deal that's been made with the Aussie board for our cricket development. Part of it is not only how to play in Aussie conditions, but also to learn hwo to play on bouncy pitches like the ones in Australia. If it was SL, may be many of us would've been happier. But I see no problem with the last concern.
I agree,we can go to srilanka any time easily because it is very near but it is good if we go and play in forieng pitches
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Old August 6, 2007, 10:20 AM
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Kabir I can see your point about playing in different condition weather, grounds, bouncy pitch and so on and our player need to get used to it but if we are still learning to play properly in our own back yard then what is the point.

Playing against subcontinent teams, BD will get more matches against first class cricketer some of them have already played test cricket or odi for their country.
I dont think those unknown team in australia will have any quality player in their team. Its like BD team touring Eng and playing against Miraz,Zahid,Omio and likes in Westham Park to get used to the condition.

Unless the tour takes place before Australia "A" tours Pakistan.There may be a possibilty Aussies can have some practise match against our team.

BD Academy Tour should equal to Qulity Pitch + Quality Players + Competitive Match
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Old August 6, 2007, 10:29 AM
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Kabir I can see your point about playing in different condition weather, grounds, bouncy pitch and so on and our player need to get used to it but if we are still learning to play properly in our own back yard then what is the point.
Well we can play in our own backyard almost anytime we want but we can't go to Australia anytime we want!!
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Old August 6, 2007, 10:36 AM
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Well we can play in our own backyard almost anytime we want but we can't go to Australia anytime we want!!
Yes we can if we are bearing all the cost (80 lakh taka for a month long tour is a lot of money)
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Old August 6, 2007, 10:45 AM
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Yes we can if we are bearing all the cost (80 lakh taka for a month long tour is a lot of money)
I agree 80 lakh taka is a lot of money for this tour but which is more important to you cricket or money?? I think our improvement of cricket is more important than the money!!
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Old August 6, 2007, 10:51 AM
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I agree 80 lakh taka is a lot of money for this tour but which is more important to you cricket or money?? I think our improvement of cricket is more important than the money!!
Dont forget we dont know about the quality of the opposition.
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Old August 6, 2007, 11:15 AM
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We could have toured south africa and they invited us ? now that is stupid.
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Old August 6, 2007, 11:22 AM
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why should CA pay us (beyond what hosts usually pay for - if anything)? BCB has money, 80 lakh taka is not much, 115,000 USD or so. BCB has money, they aren't BCCI, but they sure aren't poor either.
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why should CA pay us (beyond what hosts usually pay for - if anything)? BCB has money, 80 lakh taka is not much, 115,000 USD or so. BCB has money, they aren't BCCI, but they sure aren't poor either.
but the question is.. they dont yet know the opposition they will play against. if they can't give us a quality opposition then why they made a deal?? they are not paying us. I think BCB should have made the deal with England..or South Africa(they invited us).. but the last committee didnt want to tour SA as they think Aus would be better.Now we have to play against a school team.. i guess..
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Old August 6, 2007, 11:34 AM
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Bangladesh Academy team to tour Australia next month but new formed BCB have raised plenty questions. This tour was organised by last BCB and it would cost 80 lakh taka. They will play 2 four day match (Tasmania and Norther terrotory) and 5 one dayer opposition unknown.

This are the reason
1- Tour will cost BCB 80 lakh taka (they wont get penny from Oz even if they win every game)
2- playing against unknown opposition (although 4 day match is confirmed, one dayers still has not)
3- Opposition team? are the going to name their best squad have they played any first classs cricket(no point playing novice cricketer just because they are aussie)
4- Why cant BD academy play against subcontinental team at least they will play against qulaity players.


I agree with new BCB
What is your thought ?

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first thing first: the new BCB must learn to take responsibilities sincerely, just not saying the prev committee did this or that and then trying to escape responsibilities. About your questions:

1. 80 Lakh taka is not a big factor. Cricket earns a whole lot of money and if spending this money means the development of cricket and cricketers, I am with it. We are used to hear the same question, when someone is going abroad for studies. The Bangladesh Bank causes problems saying, the students are taking this money away. But we know how many times of this money is returned by the student in a few years.

2. They have to co-operate with the organizers. This is a duty of the BCB. If they are sincere, they will do it; otherwise they will just keep blaming the previous BCB committee.

3. the same as 2.

4. I don't think that playing in the sub-continent will help much. The condition matters and playing on Australian pitches is something special. Only cricketers know how difficult it is to bat good length deliveries rising sharply at chest height, when the player is used to play only at low pitches.
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Old August 6, 2007, 11:45 AM
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I don't entirely believe that BCB doesn't know the opposition they're playing with. This is bs I think. I have a feeling that the new management is confusing squad with opposition. Nobody in this world will make a deal with anyone unless they know what quality of opposition they're playing with. If former BCB made a deal which didn't explicitly define the LEVEL of cricket team our academy team will be playing, that's just outright stupidity. And to do something this stupid, someone really has to have the ability to NOT use their brain forcefully.

80 lakhs isn't any money for 1 month tour. You guys are forgetting - first world countries are EXPENSIVE. A hotel room in Australia will cost over $150 PER NIGHT. For the whole squad, team management, coach, etc, in a month, guess how much that will come out to be? Then think of all the facilities, etc. There's no fund from CA that will take care of these...and frankly speaking, they don't have the need to fund these activities either. It's for OUR development.
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Old August 6, 2007, 11:50 AM
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I am having the feeling that BD cricket development is going so downward that it will reach the bottom. When they made the deal, we thought it is good for our development and now we can see how much money will be spend just even to stay in a hotel and other necessary expenses including living and maintenance costs. On the other hand, yet no sign of hiring specialist batting coaches, bowling coaches let alone a good bouncy pitch at home and good domestic cricket. I have lost total hope on our country and I don't buy anymore anything from our cricket administrators. And now we can see even Nepal or Malaysia development/academy teams are posing threat to us, not to mention Irish, Scottish, Dutch and Kenya can cause upset.
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Old August 6, 2007, 11:56 AM
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I am having the feeling that BD cricket development is going so downward that it will reach the bottom. When they made the deal, we thought it is good for our development and now we can see how much money will be spend just even to stay in a hotel and other necessary expenses including living and maintenance costs. On the other hand, yet no sign of hiring specialist batting coaches, bowling coaches let alone a good bouncy pitch at home and good domestic cricket. I have lost total hope on our country and I don't buy anymore anything from our cricket administrators. And now we can see even Nepal or Malaysia development/academy teams are posing threat to us, not to mention Irish, Scottish, Dutch and Kenya can cause upset.
Thank You, We could have spend those money in some qulaity coach. Batting and Bowling.
Or paying 2 to 3 really fast bowler to play in our domestic league
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Old August 6, 2007, 02:45 PM
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I agree 80 lakh taka is a lot of money for this tour but which is more important to you cricket or money?? I think our improvement of cricket is more important than the money!!
our improvement is way more important...........................in the end dey should seee dis as an investment
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Old August 7, 2007, 05:48 AM
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I don't entirely believe that BCB doesn't know the opposition they're playing with. This is bs I think. I have a feeling that the new management is confusing squad with opposition. Nobody in this world will make a deal with anyone unless they know what quality of opposition they're playing with. If former BCB made a deal which didn't explicitly define the LEVEL of cricket team our academy team will be playing, that's just outright stupidity. And to do something this stupid, someone really has to have the ability to NOT use their brain forcefully.

80 lakhs isn't any money for 1 month tour. You guys are forgetting - first world countries are EXPENSIVE. A hotel room in Australia will cost over $150 PER NIGHT. For the whole squad, team management, coach, etc, in a month, guess how much that will come out to be? Then think of all the facilities, etc. There's no fund from CA that will take care of these...and frankly speaking, they don't have the need to fund these activities either. It's for OUR development.
Very well said.
TK 80 lakh is not that much for a month long tour.

I thought the Australian Board has helped us far and beyond they needed to in the early stages of our cricketing days. Now that we are set to earn USD 60 Mil over the next five years, i would wonder why would they?

It is for our development and should be seen as an long term investment rather than expenditure.

Its not just about the quality of opposition players, but the biggest factor is playing in such conditions.
We can play in the subcontinent but it wont give the boys the feel of "overseas".
You are not truely overseas until and unless you are in a complete "alien" environment. Eating the same food, seeing the same faces doesnt knock a great deal on the mind.
Whereas places like Eng,SA or Australia, not only the young boys would hv to play in a different condition, but at the same time would learn to adopt themselves in a different culture n environment. And to me, that would be the biggest learning curve.

Its also up to BCB to negotiate and get a better quality opponent from CA.
So, rather wasting time on the amount, they should be busy dealing with CA and get the preferable team to play against.

Less talk more action.
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Old August 7, 2007, 06:27 AM
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Everything that's happened in Bangladeshi cricket since April has left me depressed.

How much were they expecting a month long tour of Australia to cost?
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I completely agree with Sydney. I was really excited to learn from BCB CEO that our Academy team will go to Australia for a month (I posted the info at BC, if you can recall). It will be a great help to learn proper techniques to play in bouncy conditions.

I am clueless about what they are thinking about the cost of a full team abroad in 1 month. Tk 80 Lakh which is about £55,000 is not a huge money considering their stay, plane fare, food and logistics.

They should stop talking and and finding fault in everything, more logical actions are really appreciated.
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since it is an academy team they ought to think about travelling by a boat to australia. a nice dingy with an engine would not cost that much. once there, they ought to stay with local bangladeshi families and eat feee of charge in bangladeshi restaurant. i am sure this would reduce the cost somewhat.
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Old August 7, 2007, 11:22 AM
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since it is an academy team they ought to think about travelling by a boat to australia. a nice dingy with an engine would not cost that much. once there, they ought to stay with local bangladeshi families and eat feee of charge in bangladeshi restaurant. i am sure this would reduce the cost somewhat.

Ya the new BCB executives should find all the possible ways to squeeze some money from wasting... afterall these new executives are hungry for a while now... they need money for their own funding so that they can see the progress of the team first hand. And they are the executives... they represents BCB... they cannot fly economy class or stay in three star hotels... its a prestisge issue.

To: BCB new executives... you guys are acting like your big bosses (who hired you), messed up with setting up the priorities here... put all the energy what you are supposed to do... don't count nicle and dime here ...
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since these are younsters i would advise them to fly economy class and stay in shared rooms at youth hostels. they don't need ensuite facilities. a significant amount of money could be saved this way. a deal with local bangladeshi restaurants for food would also save a lot of money.
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a significant amount of money could be saved this way. a deal with local bangladeshi restaurants for food would also save a lot of money.
Are you suggesting that they do part time dish washing jobs to get free food from bangladeshi restaurants?
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