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Old April 29, 2015, 11:31 AM
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Default Global Cricket takeover.

They ran the ICL.Now the owner is worth billions and is considering spending billions.
With the flash of cash wouldn't be surprised if some cross over.
10 world cup for 2019 and 10 for t20 world cup 2016.
Intercontinetal sides have 2 wait for 1 side to play off for test cricket in 2018.
They have registed Cricket Australia They want the associates on board and under the current circumstances see players signing up for big cash will happen.
This could tear the sport apart.
Zee owns ten sports and covers 5 nations in cricket.
Cricket in South Africa is a mess with big walkouts promised over quota cricket where 3 coloured players and 3 black players must be picked in domestic sides.
West Indies is broke and owes BCCI 42 million,half the team won't play for the windies because they are playing IPL.
This is kickkked off with Essel today naming a global league.

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Old April 29, 2015, 11:54 AM
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ICC wouldn't allow it. Players will get banned if they even name them let alone sign a contract. Without the media rights in Ind, they are nothing. The viewership is 3 times the rest of the world.
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The International Cricket Council’s grip on the sport is under threat from a proposed global Twenty20 tournament which organisers believe could be worth billions of pounds.
Plans for the new competition, which would be operated by a rival governing body to the ICC, are backed by the Indian conglomerate Essel Group, which owns the satellite broadcaster Zee TV. The plans are “60  per cent” complete according to one source, who claimed that “billions and billions” of dollars are available to establish cricket boards in countries around the world to challenge the established order. A website domain, globalt20.com, has been registered this month and follows news last week that companies in Australia, New Zealand and Scotland have been formed with names similar to cricket boards in those countries.
In total more than 249 website domains have been registered to cover countries and associations that could be affiliated to the new governing body. A world league could then be launched with new markets such as the United States and China targeted along with traditional cricket playing countries.
The backers of the project are confident that they can attract interest from wealthy sports franchise owners looking to tap into cricket’s popularity in Asia and potential for growth in countries with large expat communities from the subcontinent, such as the US.
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Not good for the sport, considering it does happen.
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Old April 29, 2015, 01:48 PM
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If greedy Indians don't stop monopolizing ICC and making elitist privileged groups within, this is bound to happen.
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ICC wouldn't allow it. Players will get banned if they even name them let alone sign a contract. Without the media rights in Ind, they are nothing. The viewership is 3 times the rest of the world.
That old system won't work. They r approaching in a very structural way. Establishing boards in each country and will involve much more countries than ICC does. Even untapped countries like China USA ..
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It won't happen for sure.

None of the 10 full members will leave ICC and go with this Zee Cinema group. Then will there be multiple boards from same country? That won't happen either. For example, no org but BCB will control every aspect of the game in BD. Same goes with BCCI, PCB, Cricket Australia etc in their own respective countries. No board can just spring up and start running cricket rivaling already century old established boards in that country.

What they can do is enroll new countries that have not been touched by ICC such as US/China etc. Grow the game there and then once they are professional, merge it with ICC. But how profitable will it be to market the games in those frontier places. They won't make any money through TV, attendance, sponsorship for decades in those non cricket playing markets.

Overall, it is not viable at all.
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Its a joke...BCCI quashed ICL like an elephants crushes peanuts.

Even if it goes through, other sports have had rivals before...AFL/NFL, NBA/ABA, etc. No one will forsake 140 years of ICC sanctioned cricket for some IPL knockoff.
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Its a joke...BCCI quashed ICL like an elephants crushes peanuts.

Even if it goes through, other sports have had rivals before...AFL/NFL, NBA/ABA, etc. No one will forsake 140 years of ICC sanctioned cricket for some IPL knockoff.
Remember Kerry Packer. He forced ICC to change. If ICC go with 10 team World Cup etc. etc., then we never know. It may start with countries like Ireland, Nepal, Malaysia,etc.
Some players from Pakistan, BD, Zimbabwe may join the clubs of those countries to earn money, like Packer's World Series.
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This probably won't engulf ICC & even may not last long enough. But I like these rebel things, because they force the main organization (ICC Here) to rethink their policies that gives birth to such rebel league. If there is no dis-satisfaction, the rebel leagues don't crop up. When those anamolies are corrected, the rebel leagues die.

Example in cricket: Kerry Packers, ICL we have seen in front of us, both have forced major changes in cricket, although they themselves had to perish.
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^ as if ICC has a backbone. ICC is run by ... .

Don't you realize everything is driven by viewership? That dictates sponsorship. That in turns creates revenue for the boards. That is why every board lines up with their legs apart to get a series with IND.
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All this cash (kerry packer type) means nothing in the long run. If Eng and Aus were compelled/forced to give up POWER in the ICC table; you guys have no idea who you are up against.

Which board has two heads on their shoulder? (Gharey koita matha?) No one.
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^ as if ICC has a backbone. ICC is run by ... .

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Which board has two heads on their shoulder? (Gharey koita matha?) No one.
They aren't looking for these boards to come under their banner.

They will establish separate cricket board in each country. There will be plenty to establish another board even in Australia & Eng, as you rightly said, it's all about viewership, I.e. CASH.. The guy is willing to spil Bilion + to establish a completely parallel structure. They will have their own players and all. Definitely a player can't play for two boards. ICC probably can't do much against them.
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Must be like ICL of again for you guys,lightning strikes twice.
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Must be like ICL of again for you guys,lightning strikes twice.
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Michael Clarke and David Warner $50 million targets of new rebel cricket league


Michael Clarke and David Warner would be offered $50 million contracts as part of a plan hatched by an Indian conglomerate to take on the cricket establishment in a plot that has been likened to Kerry Packer's creation of World Series Cricket nearly 40 years ago.

The Essel Group's owner, Indian billionaire Subhash Chandra, has confirmed ambitions to launch a cricket venture since Fairfax Media revealed last week the business giant had registered company names in Australia and other nations in an apparent bid to launch a rival world governing body and a rich, new global Twenty20 league.

"There is a general dissatisfaction with the game's governance, how it's run and the inequity of the game's finances and there are other bodies around that would believe they can globalise the game of cricket in a more equitable fashion than the current administration," May said.

Cricket Australia's board will assemble in Melbourne on Friday. The meeting was scheduled before news of Essel's potential power play emerged but directors are expected to be briefed on an ICC investigation into the Essel project and discuss the matter at length.

The founder of the Indian Premier League, Lalit Modi, and his associate Dean Kino, the ex-CA lawyer and formerly a key player in establishing the T20 Champions League, have been strongly linked to the Essel project. Modi admits he was approached about it but denies involvement, as does Kino.

US-based May, the former Australian spinner, is not surprised at the emergence of potential rivals to the ICC on the scene. "If the current administration really wants to protect the game they should look within to see how they can improve their own administration rather than blaming others who merely want to be competitive," he said.

"Any organisation that doesn't meet the highest standards, whether it's in corporate world or sporting world, if there are doubts about the integrity of thier leaders, if they're doubts about how they distribute finances, they're always going to be up for some sort of battle against someone who wants to do the right thing and that is probably what's happening in cricket at the moment."

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Old April 30, 2015, 09:53 AM
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It will be hard and chance of success is very slip ( close to none).

But as a fan, they will have my support. If they can target USA, I will pay to watch.
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Old April 30, 2015, 10:22 AM
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Nothing will happen. This is the same group that started ICL.
BCCI crushed it then and it will crush it again.
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Old April 30, 2015, 11:34 AM
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These are fake offers. Last time they did not pay up less than half amounts. How can you expect them to pay up more than double. Stupid guys like Alok Kapali, Shahriar Nafees and Haba only can fall into their traps. Not Michael Clarke or Warner.
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Shakib is on a big deal with IPL and other t20 tournaments other than that can Bangladesh player deals compete with the salraies offered by essel.
Conversely bcci and icc cannot sign up everyone including the associates.All bets are off.
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Old April 30, 2015, 03:59 PM
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Nothing will happen. This is the same group that started ICL.
BCCI crushed it then and it will crush it again.
You are talking arrogantly without understanding the facts bro...

BCCI has nothing to do with it, this isn't another ICL .. This isn't an INDIA domestic affair.

It's parallel ICC type Body .. With world wide parallel BOARDS .. They will have their own players like the current network of ICC has...

Like the WWF & WWE both are surviving at the same time. Considering the new board is targeting only T20 tournaments, you can consider them targeting somewhat like, to become the WWE of cricket.

they promised to have T20 tournaments throughout the year, people have appetite for more cricket. They may not be a competitor to ICC in other areas. It's good even for the players they will have a choice, which organization to make his career as a T20 cricketer. Already there is a lot of willing cricketers who are ready to give up all formats and be freelance T20 cricketer. So I'm sure they will not have much problems.

Problem of ICL was they couldn't have organized cricket throughout the year. But this rival board will have the ability to have leagues through the year around the world, so I don't see them in any trouble. They are here to survive. But I say again, they aren't challenging ICC, they are tapping into the immense demand of T20 cricket in the world.

Once again, BCCI is nobody here, so please don't tell me "BCCI" will do bla bla bla ...
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They aren't looking for these boards to come under their banner.

They will establish separate cricket board in each country....
Are you kidding me? Truly you are this gullible? Empty promises .

Creating a rival establishment is not feasible. Even in a country like BD. Let alone Australia/NZ.

1) BCB owns facilities whatever we have. So the rival group has to buy land, build state of the art facilities. Higher people with knowledge. What was the budget again? How many cities we are talking about? Minimum of 6?

2) BCB is attached with the Govt. The rival league has to get permission from the Govt. to operate inside BD borders. Good luck. How much bribery money they have to give to do this and make everyone happy?

3) Billionaire doesn't mean he is investing a Billion dollars. He will most likely take out a loan (lol) meaning must pay interest. In other words, can't operate a model that is not profitable in the first 3 years minimum.

4) The product they would put out wouldn't be the near caliber we have now. Thus revenue wouldn't be that much to begin with. We can't find a decent sponsor for home Intl games. They would find sponsors to fund local games?
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Are you kidding me? Truly you are this gullible? Empty promises .

Creating a rival establishment is not feasible. Even in a country like BD. Let alone Australia/NZ.

1) BCB owns facilities whatever we have. So the rival group has to buy land, build state of the art facilities. Higher people with knowledge. What was the budget again? How many cities we are talking about? Minimum of 6?

2) BCB is attached with the Govt. The rival league has to get permission from the Govt. to operate inside BD borders. Good luck. How much bribery money they have to give to do this and make everyone happy?

3) Billionaire doesn't mean he is investing a Billion dollars. He will most likely take out a loan (lol) meaning must pay interest. In other words, can't operate a model that is not profitable in the first 3 years minimum.

4) The product they would put out wouldn't be the near caliber we have now. Thus revenue wouldn't be that much to begin with. We can't find a decent sponsor for home Intl games. They would find sponsors to fund local games?
TE .. Read the articles carefully to understand what they are doing, it's not me who is thinking like that....

You are saying from Bangladesh/BCB pov .. Who cares about Bangkadesh. In India Edsel /ICL has enough venues and they might make more, they might even choose to leave countries like bd out for the time being if none can come up with infrastructures. The countries they are tapping they can arrange. More over, they said, they are going to invest billions for infrastructure ... Countries they target are all economic powerhouses and has enough viewers to make it a feasible business.

Even Afghanistan won't have a problem arranging a venue, they have enough land. I don't know if they can arrange it in Bangladesh. We might just have a team & start with small practice facility for them initially... Things will be clear soon.

Surely they won't have the same quality of cricket to begin with. But you know people still fills up stadiums. But if they continue surely they will achieve better quality with time.
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You are talking arrogantly without understanding the facts bro...

BCCI has nothing to do with it, this isn't another ICL .. This isn't an INDIA domestic affair.

It's parallel ICC type Body .. With world wide parallel BOARDS .. They will have their own players like the current network of ICC has...

Like the WWF & WWE both are surviving at the same time. Considering the new board is targeting only T20 tournaments, you can consider them targeting somewhat like, to become the WWE of cricket.

they promised to have T20 tournaments throughout the year, people have appetite for more cricket. They may not be a competitor to ICC in other areas. It's good even for the players they will have a choice, which organization to make his career as a T20 cricketer. Already there is a lot of willing cricketers who are ready to give up all formats and be freelance T20 cricketer. So I'm sure they will not have much problems.

Problem of ICL was they couldn't have organized cricket throughout the year. But this rival board will have the ability to have leagues through the year around the world, so I don't see them in any trouble. They are here to survive. But I say again, they aren't challenging ICC, they are tapping into the immense demand of T20 cricket in the world.

Once again, BCCI is nobody here, so please don't tell me "BCCI" will do bla bla bla ...
You do understand that they need sponsors and players from India ,right?
They can create as many rival boards as they can but you really think that Indian audience care to watch Afg XI vs Nepal XI ?
BCCI will simply ban all Indian players from representing like it did in ICL. Did you ever see an ICL match? The audience count was starting to dwindle. Also Essel couldn't pay salaries to the players. When they couldn't pay salaries you think they can get players like warner,clarke? They need more money than they invested in ICL bcz they have to create boards in different countries.

Add to that BCCI members are also from ruling party of India, they wont allow some other entity to undermine their power/profits.

Only 3/4 nations now are profit making bodies in cricket still they depend on tours from India to create a large amount of revenue.( Its sad I know that other nation members have allowed BCCI to go this far by kowtowing to it's demands but money talks)

If you think Bermuda XI and Namibia XI are going to create a profit making venture then I have nothing more to say.

Even if this rebel thing starts it will have a short life span just like ICL.
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Its reported to have a budget of 3 billion,they will get the players whether they are topline players who knows.Whats Bangladesh players get they are talking 300/400 thou for an average player.
They might not get grounds for bangladesh in bangladesh but i am sure they will get grounds somewhere,people will rent them out.
Remember essel will have the tv rights for this,and they already have tv rights for 5 of the 10 icc cricket countries already.
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The first outline of the plan for another anti-establishment Twenty20 league, backed by the Indian Essel Group, has been revealed by the organisation's head of finance and strategy Himanshu Mody. The intention is for the tournament to be a T20 competition involving up to 12 teams, though no timeframe had been set for it to take place, and Mody said he did not see players or venues being a problem.

The Essel Group was also the organisation that began the rebel ICL in 2007, a T20 league that preceded the IPL but ended in less than two years after its players were banned from mainstream cricket by the cricket boards of various countries under instruction from the BCCI and ICC.

Mody said the ICL experience had left them wiser. "The format for what we are building will be the T20 format, home and away games, across 10-12 cities," Mody told Times of India. "We are not looking at a short time frame. It could be a year away or even a little more. We know the timing is right but we are equally aware of the pitfalls where BCCI can hit us and are much wiser today.

"Besides the right time … the two main ingredients are players and grounds," Mody said. "We had four grounds in India during ICL and players. We got players even from Pakistan, so I do not see both as a problem at all. On the grounds front, during ICL, we fell short with just four grounds in four cities. Also, we learned we needed eight to 10 teams. So, this time round, we will have to ensure we have more grounds."

The ICC responded to reports of such a venture by setting up a committee comprising its three top officials - chairman N Srinivasan, ECB's Giles Clarke and CA's Wally Edwards - to conduct an inquiry and present a report.

There had also been unsubstantiated reports of offers of $50 million to David Warner and Michael Clarke to join the rebel league but Edwards had said CA was confident that their players were secure. An NZC official had also said he had not heard of any approaches being made to New Zealand players or venues.
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Hope the BCB takes steps to safeguard our cricket and are not blindsided like last time. The younger players will be particularly vulnerable to advances. Some mind-boggling numbers doing the rounds.

On the other hand, players I wouldn't mind seeing go: Abul, Shahadat, Hom, Ash (his ban is almost up)
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