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Old March 30, 2011, 01:31 PM
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Default Tigers' spinners a danger, warns Siddons

Tigers' spinners a danger, warns Siddons
Chris Barrett
March 31, 2011

MiCHAEL CLARKE'S squad for the upcoming one-day series against Bangladesh is vulnerable, says the hosts' coach Jamie Siddons, but not because of any growing pains in the dynamic between the new captain and Ricky Ponting.

Bangladesh produced a huge upset at the World Cup with a two-wicket win over England but failed to make the quarter-finals.

Even so, Siddons believes Australia's predominantly right-handed batting line-up could be susceptible against Bangladesh's spinners, led by their captain Shakib Al Hasan.

''I guess Australia's weakness is playing left-arm off-spin or the ball spinning away from the bat,'' Siddons said.

''It gives us a chance. Their chinks in the armour are that - if they don't play it well, then we're a chance, but we have to make enough runs to be competitive.''

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/...330-1cgcq.html

i hope we can do this, but i fear everytime we talk up our chances we perform hopelessly.
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Old March 30, 2011, 01:37 PM
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Taklu Da and his big mouth.

But then why he should care?... he is a sitting duck coach in vacation mood now.
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Old March 31, 2011, 03:16 PM
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he is a sitting duck coach in vacation mood now.
The term is "lame duck".
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Old March 31, 2011, 08:15 PM
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Taklu Da and his big mouth.

But then why he should care?... he is a sitting duck coach in vacation mood now.
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The term is "lame duck".
He might also be a sitting duck with all the pot shots being taken on him.
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Old March 30, 2011, 01:54 PM
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despite knowing that he's not gonna stay here for long, its good to see Siddons is still shouting loud for us. Bravo !
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Old March 30, 2011, 03:32 PM
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despite knowing that he's not gonna stay here for long, its good to see Siddons is still shouting loud for us. Bravo !
I hope I'm wrong but I have a strange feeling BCB will extend Siddons. Especially if we get some positive results in this series. (I hope I'm wrong about Siddons' renewal, not the positive result in the series )

It seems he wants to stay which is a good thing but PLEASE BCB, don't let it be as a head coach.
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Old March 31, 2011, 11:39 AM
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despite knowing that he's not gonna stay here for long, its good to see Siddons is still shouting loud for us. Bravo !
Yes, I like this attitude.
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Old March 31, 2011, 02:41 PM
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despite knowing that he's not gonna stay here for long, its good to see Siddons is still shouting loud for us. Bravo !
Don't worry. He is still getting $ 20K+ per month for his shouting, it is not yet charity from him.
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Old March 30, 2011, 01:56 PM
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BD batting has to click then we can do it!
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Old March 30, 2011, 02:08 PM
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BD batting weakness, overcomes any bowling strength we may have

Sort that out first.
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Old March 30, 2011, 02:24 PM
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you cant expect the bowlers to do everything for you, you gotta have the batting power to back up any bad bowling spells or any bad fielding
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Old March 30, 2011, 02:45 PM
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Our bowlers have not let us down too many times in the recent past. They have defended sub-200 totals against G8. Our batting is the main worry.
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Old March 30, 2011, 03:12 PM
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our spin bowlers compared with other nations are excellent, our battling compared with other nations are disgrace, 10 years and we dont know how to Bat?

one good advantage, in 10 years we have learnt how to bowl, so that sence its great///

so will have to wait another 10 years guys.
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Old March 30, 2011, 03:23 PM
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I am happy with Siddons because he is not telling that Tamim will hit Brett Lee and Co. for a double century.

He mentioned 'enough' runs, how much is enough? At the beginning of his tenure it was 240, I guess, now it is 200.
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It's funny how at the beginning o the world cup our bowling was our weakness.

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Old March 30, 2011, 06:24 PM
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lol BD sucks in both pace and spin bowling.
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Old March 31, 2011, 02:11 AM
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lol BD sucks in both pace and spin bowling.
strangely enough, it's the pace attack that is looking promising. in spin I don't rate anybody other than shak.
razzak is highly overrated. he is only good against teams like zimbo.

I get the feeling bangladesh ignores other types of spinners due to hype around SLA's, which is a bad thing in the long run.
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Old March 31, 2011, 02:19 AM
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strangely enough, it's the pace attack that is looking promising. in spin I don't rate anybody other than shak.
razzak is highly overrated. he is only good against teams like zimbo.

I get the feeling bangladesh ignores other types of spinners due to hype around SLA's, which is a bad thing in the long run.
Not a case of ignoring the others, just that they(SLAs) seem to be competent to an extent. I'm sure the selectors would love some variety, 30 overs of slow left arm filth isn't going to trouble too many good sides for too many overs.

But this is the hand we've been dealt.

As for Razzak I think there was a time long long ago, when he did flight the ball a bit, but match after match against the likes of Zimbabwe have ruined him. His arm ball used to be a good change up, but now it is essentially his stock ball...it is no surprise that he is no longer as effective.
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As for Razzak I think there was a time long long ago, when he did flight the ball a bit, but match after match against the likes of Zimbabwe have ruined him. His arm ball used to be a good change up, but now it is essentially his stock ball...it is no surprise that he is no longer as effective.
It's having to bowl under pressure in the powerplays that has ruined Razzak... If our pacers weren't getting hammered all the time first up he wouldn't be needed during those run restricting overs and would probably have bowled with much more flight... still he has consistently gotten us wickets during the pp

Our pace bowling has improved with the old ball no doubt. I still don't see enough penetration with the new ball... in all the games our pacers are leaking runs and giving opposition flying starts after which we regroup with wickets from the spinners like Naeem/Razzak.
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Old March 31, 2011, 03:44 AM
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It's having to bowl under pressure in the powerplays that has ruined Razzak... If our pacers weren't getting hammered all the time first up he wouldn't be needed during those run restricting overs and would probably have bowled with much more flight... still he has consistently gotten us wickets during the pp

Our pace bowling has improved with the old ball no doubt. I still don't see enough penetration with the new ball... in all the games our pacers are leaking runs and giving opposition flying starts after which we regroup with wickets from the spinners like Naeem/Razzak.
No need to worry about the new ball, old ball, PP overs, death bowling any longer.

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strangely enough, it's the pace attack that is looking promising. in spin I don't rate anybody other than shak.
razzak is highly overrated. he is only good against teams like zimbo.

I get the feeling bangladesh ignores other types of spinners due to hype around SLA's, which is a bad thing in the long run.
There is a Self-fulfilling prophecy in BD that just because we produce army of Spinners that they are automatically good and should be (preferred) selected. All the focus goes towards them.
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I get the feeling bangladesh ignores other types of spinners due to hype around SLA's, which is a bad thing in the long run.
Na vai..its not that..if you look at our promising spinners in the domestic structure u'll find only SLA...we have so many of them...other spinners are so less...almost goes unnoticed...But i have high hopes for Nur Hossain...he is a good leggy and with good coaching may become a very good support for Shakib
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Na vai..its not that..if you look at our promising spinners in the domestic structure u'll find only SLA...we have so many of them...other spinners are so less...almost goes unnoticed...But i have high hopes for Nur Hossain...he is a good leggy and with good coaching may become a very good support for Shakib
No matter how could we might think our spinners are, except for Shakib i feel we are still a level below the skill levels of Harbhajan, Ajmal, Herath, Mendis etc because those guys seem to have a lot more variation like the doosra, carrom ball etc... I have never seen Tendulkar being fooled the way Ajmal made him yesterday
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I have never seen Tendulkar being fooled the way Ajmal made him yesterday
Because sachin has not played him before.Some bowlers are difficult to pick if you are unfamiliar with their bag of tricks either because you never played him.or he has improved dramatically from the last time you played him.
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Even Michael Clarke is a better spinner than all our spinners combined. If Clarke bowls full 10 overs he will pick 5fer in every match against us.
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