Match Thread: 2nd Test, Bangladesh vs. West Indies at SANS, Khulna; November 21-25, 2012

[Maysun]

Originally Posted by Ian Pont
I mean there is no chance this is a wake up call for Shakib and Tamim. They will always do what they do.... as will the rest of the guys.

But you claimed that, had you been in charge, there would a change. And now you are telling us that there is no chance? They will be what they are!

I'm a bit confused, Ian.

[Ian Pont]

The only way you change this is to plan for talent - and then develop it fully.

All you can do is re-arrange deck chairs on the Titanic at the moment, which make no difference to the outcome.

As soon as the BCB and others, draw a line and say "enough"... only THEN will this Test Cricket debacle start to end. It starts with a plan.

If you have no real goals, then you may as well take any road

[oronnya]

Originally Posted by Ian Pont
I mean there is no chance this is a wake up call for Shakib and Tamim. They will always do what they do.... as will the rest of the guys.

Just curious, as you know that our players are just some hopeless bunch then why are you so interested to coach them? Don't seem like they will listen to you and start working hard all of a sudden.

[Nadim]

Originally Posted by Jadukor
I feel like we are playing without Shakib in this series. He has always been our impact player. What the hell happened?

shows how much difference he makes in the team. dont expect him to do welll in every match, every series....He is no shuper man

[Jadukor]

WI wickets are more scarce than water in Sahara desert
Our batting is as stable as Dhaka Stock Exchange
Our batting technique is as solid as energy biscuit after soaking in a cup of tea

what a bad couple of days (sigh)

[Ian Pont]

Originally Posted by maysun
But you claimed that, had you been in charge, there would a change. And now you are telling us that there is no chance? They will be what they are!

I'm a bit confused, Ian.

You can shuffle the pack or help them to believe. My point is that certain players will always be as they are.

The hope is in the future like Gazi, Anamul, Nasir, Moinmul etc. plus changing the culture.

I am not in charge and nor will I be, so whatever I say has no relevancy anyway.

[Murad]

Originally Posted by Ian Pont
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian Pont
WI plan will be to get close to 650 by Day 4 lunchtime and have 5 sessions of the match to bowl out BD.

WI 1-0 up in series so don't have to win the match to win the series. The onus is on BD to be creative and aggressive - not least as they are at home. Dead pitches where number 10s score 100s, just don't help anyone.



Murad bhai....

Bhai what can i say.

[Night_wolf]

make pont BCB president...aisob zillur er pola tola diye kisu hobena

[Jadukor]

Looks like the probability of getting a wicket is less than Zee creating a 'hit' thread

ki hobe akhon?

[Nadim]

Originally Posted by Night_wolf
make pont BCB president...aisob zillur er pola tola diye kisu hobena

ho unare pm o banaia dei!!! ki bolen dada? desh e pura phast bowler e vore jabe. hasina khaleda o phast bowling kora shuru korbe

[oronnya]

[QUOTE=nadim 98;1609693]ho unare pm o banaia dei!!! ki bolen dada? desh e pura phast bowler e vore jabe. hasina khaleda o phast bowling kora shuru korbe[/QUOTE]

:floo

Just the thought of Hasina - Khaleda bowling

[Ian Pont]

Originally Posted by oronnya
Just curious, as you know that our players are just some hopeless bunch then why are you so interested to coach them? Don't seem like they will listen to you and start working hard all of a sudden.

I disagree they are a hopeless bunch.

The current crop has challenges over the mindset. Long term, it will be a better team required.

My point is that SAH and TIK are already the best two players and are likely both happy with themselves so cannot see any changes in them. The rest of the squad feed off that.

[BANFAN]

Originally Posted by oronnya
Just curious, as you know that our players are just some hopeless bunch then why are you so interested to coach them? Don't seem like they will listen to you and start working hard all of a sudden.

Ma be, because he has identified the real problem and knows how to address that...

[Murad]

Originally Posted by nadim 98
shows how much difference he makes in the team. dont expect him to do welll in every match, every series....He is no shuper man

He's no shuper man we know that Nadim. But it seems he is losing it. In the past even in his off form he used to take some wickets.

I think too many T20 games destroying his bowling. He wasn't like that before.

If he wants to become a good Test allrounder he should play less T20. And play more FC games.

[Night_wolf]

Originally Posted by nadim 98
ho unare pm o banaia dei!!! ki bolen dada? desh e pura phast bowler e vore jabe. hasina khaleda o phast bowling kora shuru korbe

hasina khaleda re tumi ki mone koro?..ego bowling dakso??..era abul kabul bulbul er theke onek phast!!

[oronnya]

Originally Posted by BANFAN
Ma be, because he has identified the real problem and knows how to address that...

He should've identified it when he was with them actually.. No point in identifying now as it has zero impact on our real problem...

[Jadukor]

Shakib is out of form. It was evident from NCL also.
It happens even to the best. This pitch and luck hasn't favored him also... he could have had a couple of wickets in this innings

[BanCricFan]

Originally Posted by Murad
Bhai what can i say.

Let me help out...dropped catches, poor captaincy and certainly one dodgy verdict by the ump all contributing to this debacle. There were chances but we didnt hold onto those.

[Ian Pont]

It makes difference what I say, as I will never be in charge. Like u guys I am just a spectator.

I have an insight into what's wrong and I have good ideas how to help. It's not happening though

[Ian Pont]

Originally Posted by oronnya
He should've identified it when he was with them actually.. No point in identifying now as it has zero impact on our real problem...

I wasn't head coach bhai.. I was bowling coach. That improved I think.

The team stuff was Jamie Siddons. He set the policy and plans as you know.

Don't be smug about me not making a difference when I come to BD.

The only time I have been head coach has been with Dhaka Gladiators... and we won the BPL

[Murad]

Originally Posted by BanCricFan
Let me help out...dropped catches, poor captaincy and certainly one dodgy verdict by the ump all contributing to this debacle. There were chances but we didnt hold onto those.

oder pichone ashol baagh guloke chere deya uchit. shundorbon stadium theke beshi dhure na. shudhu shudhu baagher naamta ke insult kortese ora.

[BANFAN]

Originally Posted by Jadukor
Shakib is out of form. It was evident from NCL also.
It happens even to the best. This pitch and luck hasn't favored him also... he could have had a couple of wickets in this innings

But people says, his NCL performance is irrelevant, Bcoz he can perform in test matches without doing anything in NCL... Th superman ...as he is called ...

[Night_wolf]

Originally Posted by Ian Pont
I wasn't head coach bhai..

Boien!.

[BANFAN]

Originally Posted by oronnya
He should've identified it when he was with them actually.. No point in identifying now as it has zero impact on our real problem...

But I do agree with him...our players aren't that eager to change anything after getting into national team...that's why you see years after years same things are happening...

[BANFAN]

Why Mullah is so happy??