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Old May 11, 2005, 08:18 PM
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Default BCB to honour BD U-19 and U-15 teams

BCB is planning to honour the Bangladesh U-19 and U-15 teams for their recent success in Australia and Sri Lanka tours. BCB is going to arrange a dinner party in their honour in a restaurant in Dhaka on the 14th of May.

It may be mentioned that BD U-19 team won 9 out of the 10 games and drew 1 during their tour of Australia. BD U-15 team became champion in the Tri-nation tournament in Sri Lanka.

Source: http://www.ittefaq.com/news.php?id=87861&sys=3 (in bengali)
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Old May 11, 2005, 10:21 PM
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Just a dinner? No prize?
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Old May 12, 2005, 01:02 AM
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Time to give them a good HP coach once again.
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Old May 12, 2005, 01:40 AM
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Just a dinner? No prize?
Dinner will work for kids. Prize is too early to give away. NOSTO korar jonney prize deya jete parey.
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Old May 12, 2005, 03:56 AM
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Maybe they will have to wait till they are in the BD A team before they get prizes too.
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Old May 12, 2005, 04:36 AM
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yeah..no money....money will spoil 'em...

dinner is fine..after a long trip to aus and SL..they also must be craving the good ol' curry food at home...

may be the bcb can bring players like habibul or rafiq as a guest speaker on the dinner function...it might work as a great motivation for those youngsters who dreams to be like one of them...
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Old May 12, 2005, 07:57 AM
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bring akram or bulbul as a guest spk too
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Old May 12, 2005, 08:19 AM
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This is a good move by BCB. One of the criterion for success is to celebrate success. Doesn't have to be money always, could be in the form of gifts....a dinner is fine too. Like the idea of getting in former successful and popular players in the party to speak to the youngstars and encourage them, popular celibrities from other field may also be added. Most importantly BCB should tell them officially that, job well done so far but a long way to go. They should be told where we want to reach and what programmes we have for them in future to help them achieve our targets. Also, they should be given assurance about their future in personal life.(that, they don't have to worry about their livelihood should they perform and deliver) It is important for their parents also to understand that so that they can go ahead with full conviction. Scholership for free education for the players can be introduced to start with.

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Old May 12, 2005, 11:42 AM
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I disagree to a certain extent. BD U-19 and U-15 players misrepresent their age. So even though teams from other countries have genuine U-19 players, we have 25 year old players with wife and kids. So obviously we thrash them. But as these players graduate to the test level, the U-19 players from other test nations tend to perform at a much higher level than our 25 year old "U-19" players. No wonder we suck at the test level.

Instead of celebrating these victories we should find a way to ensure that we give an accurate representation of our talent at the age group level and start grooming genuine U-15 and U-19 players.

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Old May 12, 2005, 11:54 AM
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I disagree to a certain extent. BD U-19 and U-15 players misrepresent their age. So even though teams from other countries have genuine U-19 players, we have 25 year old players with wife and kids. So obviously we thrash them. But as these players graduate to the test level, the U-19 players from other test nations tend to perform at a much higher level than our 25 year old "U-19" players. No wonder we suck at the test level.

Instead of celebrating these victories we should find a way to ensure that we give an accurate representation of our talent at the age group level and start grooming genuine U-15 and U-19 players.

Before you disagree, you need to read the comments of U-19 coach McIness who whole heartedly opposed this misconeception. He revealed that there were no players older then 19 in the tour to Australia, infact there were quite a few players that were just 17.

I understand where you are coming from though as we have been fooled before by our sports governing bodies. But please don't take the credit away and spoil the fun for these kids and the coach who worked very hard to deserve this unparalalled success (though according to the coach, Australia is not big on the age level competition). Thanks.
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Old May 12, 2005, 12:26 PM
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A dinner will courage them and a prize will blow them away.
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Old May 12, 2005, 12:32 PM
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>> bring akram or bulbul as a guest spk too

Yea bring them on. Not sure about bulbul. But my guess is Akram will surely come for free food.

And about prize? Atleast show them the the prizes (car, land, cash, etc). and let them know what they can get if/when they perform well for the national team in future. After all money talks and don't under estimate the power of money.
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Old May 13, 2005, 11:54 PM
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I disagree to a certain extent. BD U-19 and U-15 players misrepresent their age. So even though teams from other countries have genuine U-19 players, we have 25 year old players with wife and kids. So obviously we thrash them. But as these players graduate to the test level, the U-19 players from other test nations tend to perform at a much higher level than our 25 year old "U-19" players. No wonder we suck at the test level.

Instead of celebrating these victories we should find a way to ensure that we give an accurate representation of our talent at the age group level and start grooming genuine U-15 and U-19 players.

Before you disagree, you need to read the comments of U-19 coach McIness who whole heartedly opposed this misconeception. He revealed that there were no players older then 19 in the tour to Australia, infact there were quite a few players that were just 17.

I understand where you are coming from though as we have been fooled before by our sports governing bodies. But please don't take the credit away and spoil the fun for these kids and the coach who worked very hard to deserve this unparalalled success (though according to the coach, Australia is not big on the age level competition). Thanks.
With all due respect, I was a member of the U-16 team and U-19 squad and have first hand experience on the cricket board playing the age game. In the U-19 squad that I was involved with, the average age was 24!! That was 7 years ago so maybe things have changed now; hopefully for the better.
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Old May 14, 2005, 12:45 AM
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umm...ok so you're semi-famous? Who are you?
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Old May 14, 2005, 07:46 AM
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umm...ok so you're semi-famous? Who are you?
Some clue
--- must be a left hander.
-- As well as played u19 seven years ago,

Edited on, May 14, 2005, 12:47 PM GMT, by Fazal.
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Old May 14, 2005, 04:00 PM
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-- As well as played u19 seven years ago,
and must be 25+7 = 32 yrs old now!
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Old May 15, 2005, 05:51 PM
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There are a couple of very important point here that that is crippling Bangladesh cricket, and without meaning to sound rude to anyone, many of you are advocating reinforcing it.

Extrinsic motivation v Intrinsic motivation: The best athletes in the world in any sport and not driven by fame, fortune, money or tangible rewards. They are diriven by simply wanting to be better or to beat the opposition. The rewards will come if you do that. The previous cricket culture of Bangladesh is based on extrinsic motivation: primarily money and this runs right through our internation cricket and our domestic cricket system. This is like a cancer that is debilitating the game. Don't get me wrong, i think it is good that there is money in domestic cricket. If you want people to dedicate large amounts of time to cricket you need to be able to support them financially. HOWEVER, it CAN NOT be the driving force behind a players decisions and performances. I also understand the socio economic situation in Bangladesh and the need to for many players to get money to support families etc, so it is a double edged sword in a third world country.

Secondly, gettting ex players, from a previous era, into to talk to young players can sometimes be fraught with danger.. I don't want any of the young players to aspire to be like Akram or Bulbul or Habibul, i want them to be much, much better than those players and every Bangladesh player that has been before. That is the only way we will be successful on an international stage. We can not copy the habits and cricket culture of yesterday's heroe's or we will get the same results as we did yesterday, and we need to be much better than that in the pool we are in now.

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Old May 15, 2005, 06:22 PM
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We can not copy the habits and cricket culture of yesterday's heroe's or we will get the same results as we did yesterday, and we need to be much better than that in the pool we are in now.
Absolutely.
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Old May 15, 2005, 11:48 PM
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Very well put, coach.

It's good to see that Richard McInnes is still very much interested in BD cricket. But not sure how long that will last. Even if it doesn't we can't blame him for that.

I just have one thing to say;
WE JUST LOST ONE OF THE BEST ASSETS OF BD CRICKET.

Thanks coach for all those you've given to us.
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Old May 16, 2005, 03:14 AM
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" The best athletes in the world in any sport and not driven by fame, fortune, money or tangible rewards. They are diriven by simply wanting to be better or to beat the opposition. "

We need more dedicated players to overcome the modern day barriers to sucess : physical fitness, mental determination and the will power to ignore the pyschological war that now-a-days take place through the media to unsettle the opponent or make them mentally vulnerable,
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