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Old June 12, 2005, 11:53 AM
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Default Squad for the NetWest Series

Two practice Matches are over. Next thing we face is England on Thursday. There is no other oppertunity to judge the performance of our players and its time to make a decision. What do we have so far? The following are few points I came up with depending on the performance so far.

* Rajin need a break. He is going throw a bad patch and a break of 2-3 matches might help.
* Might still play the first few match to see if he fail or not. He is still the only potential match winner but not in good shape.
* Taposh should not play.
* Rana should get a chance. His practice match performance and last few odi scores go for him.
* Abir is not ready yet.
* Nazmul or sujon is the biggest question to ask.

Considering all these I come up with the following squad. what u guys think.


  1. Javed Omar [6 Match]
  2. Nafis Iqbal [6 Match]
  3. Aftab Ahmed [6 Match]
  4. Mohammad Ashraful [first 3 match, tushar in next 3 if he fails]
  5. Habibul Bashar [6 Match]
  6. Khaled Masud [6 Match]
  7. Manjarul Rana
  8. Mohm Rafique[6 Match]
  9. Khaled Mahmud
  10. Nazmul Hossain
  11. Mashrafee [6 Match]

    The only possible change can be to take Rajin/Tushar instead of Nazmul/Sujon. Unless Ashraful does really bad in first few matches, only 1 out of the four (rajin, tushar, nazmul, sujon) should play.
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Old June 12, 2005, 12:02 PM
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My team for the first ODI.

JO
Nafees Iqbal
Ash
Basher
Tusher
Aftab
Rana/Chacha
Mashud
Rafique
Mashrafee
Nazmul

We need more bat. I am not sure whether Rana or Chacha should play. Bad luck for Taposh because Nazmul did great in last two practice matches even he just came to England. I like to have Tusher in the team because I know he will not take a step behind if Lee comes to bowl a bouncer.
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Old June 12, 2005, 12:09 PM
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A totally agree with AgentSmith. It will be a good team to see.
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Old June 12, 2005, 12:12 PM
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i will go with the same as sports_fan except aftab at 3, tushar 4, bashar 5, ash 6, rafiq 7, rana 8
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Old June 12, 2005, 12:13 PM
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Agent,

A similar thread already exists. May be you can merge the both.

http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon....php?tid=12242
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Old June 12, 2005, 12:35 PM
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My selection:

Javed
Rafique/Rana
Aftab
Ashraful
Bashar
Tushar
Pilot
Rafique/Rana
Chacha
Nazmul
Mashrafee

If Ashraful fails in the first few matches, then we should drop him and pick Nafees for opening with Javed. Then Rafique/Rana can go back to lower order and Tushar might be promoted to #4.
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Old June 12, 2005, 12:45 PM
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My team for Natwest:
Javed
Nafees
Aftab
Bashar
Ashraful
Tushar (If he fails,Shahriar Nafees)
Pilot
Sujon
Rana/Rafiq
Mashrafee
Nazmul/Taposh
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Old June 12, 2005, 01:53 PM
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agent smith,

nafis iqbal 6 matches and ashraful 3...???

anyway, to decide for all the 6 match is meaningless now.. we better try to come up with the eleven of the first match...
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Old June 12, 2005, 01:55 PM
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some people have doubts about nazmul, but he has nort put a foot wrong since he came in for us.. bowled well in EVEY match since then.. he did not play in that match against india.. got tendulkar in the first match..

so, he is in..
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Old June 12, 2005, 03:08 PM
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My team for 1st ODI with the batting order:

1. JO
2. Nafis (don't have any replacement )
3. Tushar Imran
4. Aftab
5. Bashar
6. Rana
7. Pilot
8. Rafique
9. Cha-cha
10. Mashrafee
11. Nazmul

I don't like the idea of playing 2 spinner but we don't have much option. It will be very unwise to go with 4 specialist bowlers and expect too much from Aftab when it comes to bowling.
Ash is as good as the "weather forecaste" and I highly doubt he will do good in the next ODI. Only question I have to all of is that how many games did he win for us? I can't think of any (keep in mind we only own 2 or 3 since he joined the squad). All our wins came from everybody contributing more of less the same amount in batting or bowling or fielding.
I hope BD don't play Ash in the 1st game, all other players needs to feel more responsible and wanted instead of waiting for Ash to click.
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Old June 12, 2005, 05:02 PM
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Javed Omar
Nafees Iqbal
Ash
Basher
Tusher
Aftab
Rana Mashud
Rafique
Mashrafee
Nazmul
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Old June 12, 2005, 05:24 PM
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i would first pick a squad for the first ODI and go from there...

Javed
Nafees
Aftab
Ashraf
Bashar
Masud
Rana
Mahmud
Rafique
Mashrafee
Najmul

shahriar should be brought in if nafees fails...
and imran/rajin if ashraf fails...

i also feel tapash should play in atleast 2 matches... mashrafee will probably be rested for atleast a match allowing tapash to play...

depending on the condition of the pitch we may go with tapash/mashrafee/najmul and rest mahmud in some of the matches...

i also think that rafique/rana combination won't be played in all the matches...
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Old June 12, 2005, 05:28 PM
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Winning and only winning will be matter. Being competative or lose badly are same things.

So Ashraful is a must in the team.. Basher and Ashraful do good in lower order.

1. Javed Omar
2. Nafis
3. Aftab
4. Rana
5. Ashraful
6. Bashar
7. Pilot
8. Rafique
9. Kahled Mahamud
10. Mashrafee
11. Nazmul
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Old June 12, 2005, 05:33 PM
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u cant pass a judgement on abir just coz he got out in the first and only ball he played in this tour.
i think he is a better choice than nafis
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Old June 12, 2005, 05:47 PM
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this would be my eleven:
1) Javed Omar
2) Nafees ahmed (if he fails in the first two, replace with iqbal)
3)aftab ahmed
4)habibul bashar
5)md. ashraful (if fail in first 2 then replace with tushar)
6)manjarul rana
7)khaled mashud
8)khaled mahmud
9)md rafique
10)mashrafee
11) nazmul
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Old June 12, 2005, 06:03 PM
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Aftab is the man in form. why not sending him to open with Javed? And try Nafees in the middle order when ball is moving less.
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Old June 12, 2005, 06:28 PM
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Aftab May be in good form. Yet think past games it is obvious that only JO and Iqbal (to an extent)are able to deal with new ball
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Old June 12, 2005, 06:30 PM
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Apologies.
What I mean is Aftab may be in good form. Yet I think from past games it is obvious that only JO and Iqbal (to an extent)are able to deal with new ball
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Old June 12, 2005, 06:58 PM
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My team:

There should be 3 pacers in the team to be competitive in the English condition. Aftab, although handy, should not be considered a front line bowler.

My choice of pacers: 1. Mashrafee
2. Nazmul
(both automatic choice, given their performance and track record).
3. Mahmud
(lets face it, the selectors flown him from Dhaka, not to side line him. Lets also be fair to him, he bowled well in the practice match, he is a fighter and his performance is no worse than Tapash.

*Reserve: Tapash (If any one of the pace trio becomes injured or fail to perform).

Spinners: There should be 2 in the team. Hopefully at least one will find his turn.

My choice:

1. Rafique (automatic choice, given his track record, occassional flamboyant batting, experience).
2. Rana (the automatic 2nd choice. We should also consider his recent successes, his batting ability).

WK: Khaled Mashud (Do I need to justify?)

Batsmen: 1. Javed Omar
2. Aftab
3. Bashar
(All automatic choice)

For the remaining 2 positions I will propose any combination of 2 among Ashraful and Nafis Iqbal and Tushar. Rajin should take a break and enjoy the English landscape. I would keep Ashraful in the team and probably as an opener. It appears the selectors will play him any way. In that case, he should open. He played better as an opener in the past. On the other hand nafis Iqbal seems very inattentive at the beginning of the match. Put him at no 3 or 4. Ashraul can bowl a bit, a good filder and has he abilty and experience of playing long innings against tougher opposition. It is true for Nafis to some extent. Tushar is an aggrasive batsman. I kow he is capable of playing 20 - 40 runs. That does not win a match. However, if Ashraful or Rajin fails, he should be tried.
Sahryar Nafees: Nurture him for future, rather than breaking his moral by rushing him to play against McGrath, Warne, Hoggard, Harmison etc.

So my final team in batting order:

1. Javed
2. Ashraful
(Nafis should not open until he finds his attention and rrythm back. Rafiq may be suitable to open against kenya and Zim, should not open against England and Aus for obvious reason. He should rather be kept for slog overs. Rana should stabilise the lower middle order instead of opening. Mashud is best suited for lower middle order. There he saved us some pride time and time again, not by opening.

3. Aftab
4. Nafis Iqbal
5. Bashar
(He is better with a bit older ball. He performed better in no 5 position in recent matches. He is suited better in this position.
6. Rana
7. Mashud
8. Rafique
(he should come before Mahmud. Mahmud is no longer an all rounder, his batting is not good these days).
9. mahmud
10. Mashrafee
11. Nazmul.

12th man: Tushar
Reserve: Tapash
Not to be played: Rajin
Nafees

This team will have:

6 front line batsmen: Javed, Ashraful, Nafis Iqbal, Aftab, Bashar and Mashud.

2 genuine all rounders: Aftab and Rana.
(I consider Mahmud a former all rounder, Mashrafee not yet an all rounder and Rafique a bowler who can bat a bit- I remember his century in the WI, it was an exception rather than a norm).

4 pacers: 3 full time- Mahmud, Mashrafee and nazmul. 1 part-time: Aftab.

3 Spinners: 2 full time - Rafique and Rana. 1 part-time: Ashraful.

The weekness: No one who can keep wicket, if Mashud is injured. Any thoughts?
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Old June 12, 2005, 07:09 PM
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very good and meaningful thread here.

here are my thoughts:

1. javed - indispensable for now
2. nafis - if he fails bring the "other" nafees
3. aftab - a better #3 than bashar
4. ashraful - if he fails enter rajin or tushar
5. bashar
6. rana - see javed's note
7. pilot
8. rafiq
9. mahmud - but tapash should play some matches
10. mashrafe
11. nazmul - should play all 6 matches

both rajin and tapash need some time off at least 2 matches and prefereably not more than 3, at least for rajin. tapash has never gotten time off, and i think that it would help. tapash should come in for chacha unless he does exceptionally well and/or nazmul does very poorly.

it should be noticed that this squad has just 5 batsmen. if rana fails with bat, then perhaps rajin or tushar should be inserted. unless rana fails with ball also, he should play all the matches.

bashar should bat at 5, the highest he should bat is 4. this goes for test matches as well.

i really want to see how aftab and ash, handle the ENG and AUS attack at 3 and 4.
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Old June 12, 2005, 09:57 PM
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Its not easy to predict the 1st 11 for the ODI's...many Ifs and Buts. One player I'd really want to see in the first ODi is Tushar Imran. Hopefully the selectors will give him a spot.
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Old June 13, 2005, 12:48 AM
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i will go with the same as sports_fan except aftab at 3, tushar 4, bashar 5, ash 6, rafiq 7, rana 8
Agree 100%.
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Old June 13, 2005, 01:45 AM
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I thought Tushar Imran has played the new ball pretty well so far in the 2 warm ups. He's come in at 3/19 and scored 40 in the first game; in the second he came in at 2/4 and although he scored only 7, he did hang around for a little bit. With Rajin badly out of form and Tushar showing confidence, I think we will see him at #3 in the first ODI - surprised no one picking him had him that high.

I wish there was another genuine pacer - even the wayward Shahadat or Talha if they had been retained. Sujon may get some wickets here and there but some days he is just going to get killed. And the idea of playing Rana-Rafque together may make more sense later in the series, if Rafique can't get wickets or runs, he doesn't deserve to play.

1st game:

1. JO
2. N. Iqbal
3. Tushar
4. Bashar
5. Ashraful
6. Aftab
7. Pilot
8. Rafique/Rana
9. Sujon
10. Mashrafee
11. Nazmul

Aftab is just going to have to figure out how to bowl 10 overs - we can't afford to take Rana and Rafique and go in with 5 specialist batsmen.
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Old June 13, 2005, 02:08 AM
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1. JO
2. Nafees
3. Aftab
4. Ash
5. Bashar
6. Rana
7. Pilot
8. Rafiq
9. Mahmud(chacha) *
10. Nazmul
11. Mashrafe
* we might give aftab/ash share 10 overs to play tushar at no.4 between aftab and ash.
We don't want to try too much with the opening position. Nafees need to stay there for sometime, atleast he has now so many innings of opening partnership experience with JO.
Rana and Rafiq should both play because we need to play to our strength. Besides rana is a cool customer with bat and an exciting tight bowler. I am counting a lot on these two.
Mashrafe is indispensible and whether or not he gets wickets, he is the only class bowler in our team which earns respect from the opposition.
Nazmul showed he can be nippy and swinging given the right conditions.
This leaves chacha as the fifth bowler. However, I am afraid if he is played down the ground then we are goner (he has a reputation of giving more than a couple of boundaries each over when the opposition is wildly aggressive). Unless he can contribute well with his bat should the team need it, we must think very carefully about delegating his bowling duty between aftab and ash (or just aftab) and play an extra batsman like tushar imran at no.3 or 4. I have a feeling we will get atleast 40 runs from tushar if he plays well, and we need all we can in this tournament. Expected scores:
1. JO 40
2. Nafees 15
3. Aftab 25
4. Ash 4-45
5.Bashar 50
6.Rana 40
7. pilot 20
8. rafiq 8-25
9. chacha 10
10. Nazmul 5
11. Mashrafe 0
Total Min: 218 Max: 275

Please comment on the above. I tried to make it as realistic as possible.
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Old June 13, 2005, 03:07 AM
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one day cricket is a batsman's game.the only way to give england or australia some discomfort in the ODI's is to post a 230+ total and try to take some early wickets. for that we need our best specialists as well as people who can contribute in both disciplines. my team for the 1st ODI is:

Javed Omar ( assured of a place after test
form)
Nafis Iqbal ( no real alernatives)

Aftab Ahmed ( definately has to come in this position
to give the innings some momentum.
has to fill in the 5th bowler spot.)
Habibul Bashar( Bangladesh need him to
consolidate in the middle order)
Tushar Imran ( good player of spinners can also
rotate the strike well, a skill needed
batting position)
Mohammed Ashraful ( a cameo 30-40 from number 6
can be very valuable)
Khaled Mashud ( mr dependable, a sure celection)
Mohammed Rafique( desperately need him to bowl tightly and also make some big hits at the end of the innings)
Tapash Baisya ( tough call to pick Tapash ahead of
mahmud and manjarul. but in my
opinion, two spinner is one too many
in seaming conditions, and taposh
would is a better bowler than
mahmud as first change)
Mashrafee Mortuza ( our best bet of troubling the
english opners)
Nazmul Hossain ( has to share the new ball after
impressive showings in the two
practice matches).

Edited on, June 13, 2005, 8:09 AM GMT, by roaring tigerz.
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