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Old June 22, 2005, 12:04 PM
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Default Bd Captain should know how to TOSS

Hi There,

I was trying to look at the number of the tosses Habibul Bashar has won so far in the on-going series in England. This is quite interesting to see that only one time, out of 10 games, Bangladesh won the toss. I think there is some skill, probably, needed to win the Toss. What do you think, guys?


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Old June 22, 2005, 12:12 PM
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He is proving all the theories of probability false.
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Old June 22, 2005, 12:16 PM
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akmnewaz , You are wrong. I think he lost on all the tosses. Which toss you think he won. He lost in all the 2 tests and 3 ODIs played so far in England. And if there was a rating for losing tosses, Bashar sure would have been number 1. But thats luck is all about. We can do nothing about it.
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Old June 22, 2005, 12:20 PM
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I included all the games, even the unofficial matches. Bangladesh won only one toss against Derbyshire.
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Old June 22, 2005, 12:28 PM
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There is no tricks or skill on wining toss. He has just been unlucky . There is nothin he can do abt it.
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Old June 22, 2005, 12:39 PM
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There is no tricks or skill on wining toss. He has just been unlucky . There is nothin he can do abt it.
Surely he can do something to win the toss.
Here is how he can win tosses easily:

1. Drink a glass of milk with Elach Dana before going to bed the night before the match.
2. Wake up early in the morning in the match-day and drink Isub Guler Vushi in empty stomach.
3. Eat Ek Khili Pan with Golapi Jorda and Chun before going for the toss. Make sure you keep a little bit of chun in your finger and touch the opponent captain with this Chun while hand-shaking.

If Habibul Bashar can follow these 3 steps accurately, there is no way he can lose even a single toss in his life.
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Old June 22, 2005, 12:56 PM
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I know some homeopathy dose sure can treat this.
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Old June 22, 2005, 12:59 PM
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wow, this is a news of the year. Should be a Headline "Bashar have won a toss........."

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Bangladesh won only one toss against Derbyshire.
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Old June 22, 2005, 01:03 PM
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GREAT Proposal!!

Very Innovative! '
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Old June 22, 2005, 01:12 PM
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This could be a fluke but I found that if you choose the side of the coin that is on top before throwing in the air, you win. It happened to me many times. So, my guess is that the BD captain is choosing the bottom side of the coin.
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Old June 22, 2005, 01:21 PM
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I think the home team tosses the coin and the visiting team calls. I may have got that the other way round though.
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Old June 22, 2005, 02:03 PM
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Perhaps in addition to a bowling coach, we should hire a tossing coach.
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Old June 22, 2005, 02:52 PM
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He is proving all the theories of probability false.
he deserves a phD for that, doesn't he?

however, if you take the world as a whole, you will see that Bashar's loss is being made up for by other captains in other matches. So the probability still remains around the 0.5 mark.

as for tossing skills, i think right now he should keep his equipment in the dressing room and come out to the practice pitch with a coin. toss practice is more important for him right now
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Old June 22, 2005, 02:53 PM
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I think the home team tosses the coin and the visiting team calls. I may have got that the other way round though.
in that case he needs some calling practice.
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Old June 22, 2005, 03:01 PM
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What's the captaincy gotta do with the toss ? It's all about Luck . You can't say the opposition having both sided head or both sided tail you know .
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Old June 22, 2005, 03:43 PM
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Someone needs to go to a Pir Shahib and get some "Pani Pora" for Shumon!!















P.S. [ Hey Allah, I hope you have a sense of humor because I am just kidding about the Pir Shahib Business ]
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Old June 22, 2005, 04:02 PM
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If there is any skill to win the toss, that would be called cheating (I am not sure how even that can be done, temparing the coin somehow I guess). Bashar can do lot better than taking the risk of branding the whole nation a bunch of cheaters.
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Old June 22, 2005, 04:06 PM
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I think the home team tosses the coin and the visiting team calls. I may have got that the other way round though.
Are they cheating on our Bhola Bhala Bashar?

One possibility is they ask bashar if its head or tail. If basar ask for head, they switch with a coin with both tail, and vice versa.

Its not fair.
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Old June 22, 2005, 04:50 PM
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Probably instead of calling head or tail, he calls for "shapla"!!
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Old June 22, 2005, 05:36 PM
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He is proving all the theories of probability false.
he deserves a phD for that, doesn't he?

[b]however, if you take the world as a whole, you will see that Bashar's loss is being made up for by other captains in other matches. So the probability still remains around the 0.5 mark.[\b]


as for tossing skills, i think right now he should keep his equipment in the dressing room and come out to the practice pitch with a coin. toss practice is more important for him right now
I am afraid that's not probability theory!
ofcourse if you add up wins and losses they will sum to the total number of tosses. But probability theory says that for a given person (bashar) calling for an unbiased toss to an unbiased coin will result in 1/2 probability of either a head or a tail. If you consistently call heads (or tails) then you can expect to win 50% of the tosses(provided all toss events are independent). Since this law if being flouted by bashar, there is every reason to call him/us unlucky.
In some respect our cricket show is every bit as unlucky as our tosses, while our opponents have experienced the better half. Just look back at the total number of wrong/dubious decisions we have received against our opponents and you will see that they correspond to the ill-fate of our tosses as well. No wonder why we can't even get close to winning most of our well-prepared matches.
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Old June 22, 2005, 05:40 PM
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does bashar know is what is head and tale in england coins? i mean vaughan can easily fool him by saying this or that.
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Old June 22, 2005, 06:18 PM
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I think there is some trick mix with luck in the toss. I heard bashar practiced toss before the zim-bd last ODI at dhaka.....

My solution is he should by lottery ticket. In that way his poor luck will be with him in lottery and may be his luck with toss will open...

Also he can send pilot to toss (i think he is more luckeir then him)
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Old June 22, 2005, 06:21 PM
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I think the home team tosses the coin and the visiting team calls. I may have got that the other way round though.
Nope, you have got that exactly right. Bashar has just been calling wrong! I think a captain should just pick either heads or tails and just stick to it for the length of his captaincy. If you captain for long enough, atleast you will win half the tosses that you call!
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Old June 22, 2005, 06:24 PM
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Well if Bashar being unlucky in the toss is karmically balanced by Ashraful's bails not dislodging when the ball hits it, I'll take it
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Old June 22, 2005, 07:18 PM
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Has our captain never read the book called "Toss Shastra" ?
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