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Old July 3, 2005, 01:31 PM
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Default How do you all rate Geraint Jones

Trying your best to not let the Durham incident influence your answer, I want to know how you all rate Geraint Jones, as a keeper and batsman.
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Old July 3, 2005, 05:38 PM
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Hey Rob, let me put it this way, aren't you asking to write about the Moon without mentioning the moonlight?

If I were you, I'd allow plenty, and I really mean plenty, of healing time before popping that question here.
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Old July 3, 2005, 09:05 PM
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After his knock at Lords I rate him very highly. I've always liked him as he was understudy of Seccombe here in Queensland and then moved to Kent. His keeping is very good and his batting was magnificent in the NatWest Final. I just hope he can keep his form up and withstand the pressure put on his by Reid, Foster, Prior and Jonathon Batty
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Old July 3, 2005, 09:14 PM
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I dunt know. I like REad better. But of course Prior is my favourite of the young England wicketkeepers.
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Old July 3, 2005, 09:22 PM
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I have seen very little of him, so can't comment.

On other boards I have seen plenty of Brits who expect him to miss atleast a crucial catch, which will lose England the Ashes

Edited on, July 4, 2005, 3:35 AM GMT, by Tintin.
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Old July 3, 2005, 09:57 PM
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Compared to Gilly, he is nothing...
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Old July 3, 2005, 10:30 PM
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I think I don't have to remind you that this is Banglacricket not englishcricket.com......
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Old July 3, 2005, 10:38 PM
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Hey every body or any body whoever is visiting this thread....rob22888 is on fire and he has made a misson to fill up all the space in Internation cricket and start a english revolutution......:P
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Old July 3, 2005, 10:39 PM
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I think I don't have to remind you that this is Banglacricket not englishcricket.com......
And may I remind you that his forum is Intrnational cricket?
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Old July 3, 2005, 11:21 PM
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this is how I view GOJo :

During the Natwest Trophy, Jones was the third best keeper in the country at that time (a rather generous remark this). Right now, that Natwest Series is over and the Ashes is the next thing in focus, Jones has to be careful about taking low catches. If he's careful enough, he will probably have a bit of impact on the outcome of the Ashes.

Other than this, I cant comment more on him.
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Old July 4, 2005, 07:42 AM
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jones is OK and thats just it. i was amazed seeing jones being picked ahead of reid. reid is a much better keeper than jones and also handy batsman. throughout the natwest series, ive seen a number of fumbles by jones which is unacceptable. would like to see reid back in the team during the ashes summer when the selectors finally realise that he is not good enough!
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Old July 4, 2005, 08:39 AM
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Well, this is a bit like asking us to rate Asoka DeSilva as an umpire isn't it?

But getting back to your question, Jones is a better batsman while Read is the better keeper. It all depends on the selectors.
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Old July 4, 2005, 08:50 AM
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First of all, its rEAd not rEId.

But, the fact is that Chris Read cannot cut it with the bat in international cricket, he never looked convincing and looked to be another one who couldn't make the step up from county cricket to international cricket, as a batsman.

Jones batting stats may not be amazing, but he is better than they suggest I think. This is only his 3rd year of first class cricket, and he just struggles a bit with the conversion of starts to good scores, I am confident he will sort this out at some point.

With Reads batting, he only has three scoring ways : drive, pull and heave wheras Jones has the full range.

In Jones batting I see class, touch and timing and he is great to watch. I think he will be averaging about 35 in test cricket soon, which is very good for a wicketkeeper at number 7.

Comparing Jones, or anyother wicket keepers batting with Gilchrist is very unfair because Gilly is a freak of nature. An average of 55 at number 7 is incredible and it will be a very long time until such a record is achieved again by a number 7 keeper, if ever.

Jones' keeping is improving game by game, and although he will never be as good as Read he will be a good performer for England. He does make some little errors here and there, but every keeper makes a few and with Jones everything is exagerated because people are nitpicking. As I said, Jones' keeping is improving all the time, and he looks to be a quick and keen learner. Jack Russell is his keeping coach and he will get there. There is no doubting his talent.

Reads England days are over I think, he just can't bat well enough at international level. Matt Prior is next in line and he is a very promising batsman who bats up the order for his county, but I wouldn't say his keeping is better than Jones.

The fact is that you need your keeper to be able to make good scores for you if don't have a bowler who can bat, England don't, Giles is handy but not a number 7. If it was all about who is the better keeper then Jack Russel would have much more England caps than Alec Stewart.

Edited on, July 4, 2005, 1:53 PM GMT, by rob22888.
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Old July 4, 2005, 09:11 AM
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read is a much busy player than jones.1's and 2's and some unorthodox shots.anyone remember read hitting crucial 6's against wi in guyana.yet they dropped him.
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Old July 4, 2005, 09:15 AM
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Reads Batting Stats :

Tests (11) :

Average : 15.30, 199 runs - no hundred, no fifties. HS 38* (against Bangladesh)

ODIS (28)

Average : 21.72, boosted by 6 not outs, 239 runs, highest score 30*, no hundred, no fifties.

That, is why he was dropped.

Believe me from someone who knows, and watches Read and Jones play international and county cricket.

There is no way Read can bat better than Jones.

Edited on, July 4, 2005, 2:15 PM GMT, by rob22888.
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Old July 4, 2005, 11:11 PM
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no no,i am not saying read shud b picked in tests.his batting style suits odi.but collingwood bats similar to read.waiting to see prior bat.
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Old July 5, 2005, 12:32 AM
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Compared to Gilly, he is nothing...
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Old July 5, 2005, 07:08 AM
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He is alright but will be better. It is too early to tell.
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Old July 5, 2005, 09:41 AM
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no no,i am not saying read shud b picked in tests.his batting style suits odi.but collingwood bats similar to read.waiting to see prior bat.
Read is a good one day cricketer, I just back Jones more to go on and finish 70 or 80* instead of make a good 20 and then get out like Read would.
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Old July 5, 2005, 09:42 AM
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Compared to Gilly, he is nothing...
No ones anything compared to Gilly. Unfair compasrison for any cricketer.
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Old July 6, 2005, 07:16 AM
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First of all, its rEAd not rEId.

He does make some little errors here and there, but every keeper makes a few and with Jones everything is exagerated because people are nitpicking.
And exaggerated has two "g"s. Talk about nitpicking :P

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Originally posted by RobThis is only his 3rd year of first class cricket
Because he spent many years in the Brisbane First Grade competition getting nowhere. It's not like he's a 22 year old who first picked up a bat at 17.

Don't get me wrong, I rate Jones very highly and it's a shame that he had to spend so many years behind Wade Seccombe who I believe to be the best wicketkeeper in the world. Geraint is probably my favourite english player at the moment and there's no doubt that he is the best man for the job
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Old July 6, 2005, 08:00 AM
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I read somewhere he started playing club cricket (not county) in England as a Pace bowler!!
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Old July 6, 2005, 01:13 PM
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Yea he did, he opened the bowling in the Welsh leagues. He said he was average, but at least its a handy bowling option if the Aussies are all over us!!
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Old July 6, 2005, 02:44 PM
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Hey Rob how did you change your name..... wasnt it rob228954 (cant remember the numbers)
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Old July 6, 2005, 03:13 PM
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It was rob22888.

I asked Mahmood if I could change it and he did it for me.

22888 isn't even my birthday, its a year off.
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