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Old July 13, 2005, 08:20 AM
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Default Developing cricket countries

ICC told that from January 2006 onwards any international games played with the top 5 teams of ICC trophy 2005 plus Kenya would be called for ODI international...ie, all the games played by top 16 nations will be called for international gamess..

Why cannot we conduct some domestic games for the time between October to December... and ask the five countries who are likely to get ODI to come and play in Bangladesh.. like Scotland, Bermuda, Ireland, Holland, and Canada...

Atleast Bermuda will be happy to come to Bangladesh...

The point is it would be very much learning for these developing countries...

Our advantage.. is that the younger players and developing players will get an experience with these countries... so when after January 2006 we can easily identify two to three players with good potential... Also more likely Bangladesh have to play with some of these countries.. So if they come to Bangladesh and play in Bangladesh before that we can easily find their weakness and strength.. and help them and also help ourself..


Really looking for your suggestions on Developing countries...
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Old July 13, 2005, 08:28 AM
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A new era for the second tier

This is old... but I will comment anyways. I think that this will be good for the game as having only 10 cricketing countires isnt good. But we should keep it at ODI status. No need to give them test status.
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Old July 13, 2005, 09:25 AM
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Really looking for your suggestions on Developing countries...
with the opportunity of playing against county team regularly, scotland and ireland will soon become strong cricketing nations though cricket is not that popular sports there and i have a feeling that they will soon overtake bd.
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Old July 13, 2005, 10:17 AM
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good idea...

Its gonna increase our point in PP table too....
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Old July 13, 2005, 08:12 PM
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sometimes I am really scared about scotland and ireland. Don't know but if someday overtake us that would be really sad for us
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Old July 13, 2005, 09:31 PM
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Yes this is great idea. But once these countries start going well in ODI they should be given test status.
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Old July 13, 2005, 09:48 PM
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One of the best things Bangladesh could do is treat the new countries the way they should have been treated.

Next time a Bangladesh team goes to the West Indies, play a three-day game in Bermuda (and another one in the USA)..

Make sure Scotland and Ireland get games when going to England.

When an 'old soldier' like Javed Omar or Rafique get too old to be picked in the national side, see if any of the minnows want a player-coach for one of their local sides.

If they make noises about a tour, guarantee them an A-side at a minimum, and make sure the tour is a success.

If there's a kid with talent, offer him a spot in the High Performance Squad in Dkaha.

Basically, act the way the rest of the Test playing countries should act.

Ian Whitchurch.
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Old July 15, 2005, 12:40 PM
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ireland has ed joyce!!!
he is the very higly rated in county cricket here in england and being seen as next graham thrope.

Ireland beat west indies last summer when like of lara, gayle, sarwan, chanderpaul was playing for west indies in that game.
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Old July 15, 2005, 01:29 PM
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ireland has ed joyce!!!
he is the very higly rated in county cricket here in england ..............
Just compare the reality of Scotland and Ireland to Holland, and Test Nation like Bangladesh................
In Bangladesh, the Authority in Cricket are trying hard to make the local cricket leagues to a greater structure, and remember the current players are not the result of a strong domestic cricket league like County..............
Today, or tomorrow, in Bangladesh any one can see a League like Ranjit Trophy or County, the tournament that is a base foundation to create a player...................
In Holland or to any other Associate Countries, you will not find a structure even................... Few days back, the Captain of Holland, telling to Media that their performances declined as they are out of County.....................
So my question is why Bangladesh are not regularly invited by Indian BCCI to participate Ranjit and Dulip Trophy? Last time there were some trouble making decision like last moment venue change made some difficulties for the Bangladeshi Boys, if they really want improvement then, the ICC should tell the indivisual authority so that Bangladesh can participate the local major tournament in India, pakistan and Sri Lanka, and Holland, Denmark can participate in County............ Otherwise, the nation Like Ireland, Scotland must develop their own Major League for their boys' development.................... It's true that these well established Tournaments in the Top Test Cricket Playing Nation are main target of a player to play, and we were told by some people that 'the third agenda of Bangladeshi Crickers to England' to play in County.............. The comment is a perfect one, as it seems theses tournaments are world's No#1, then players from Bangladesh, and Bangladesh A Team and Holland, Denmark should be allowed to play in county...........
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Old July 15, 2005, 03:15 PM
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THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO PLAY BUT THEY ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

COUNTY CRICKET IS HERE TO DEVELOPED CRICKTERS FOR ENGLAND, NOT TO HELP DEVELOPING NATIONS. THEY ARE ALLOWED TWO OVERSEAS PLAYER,so THEY ATTRACT MORE SUPPOTER.
wales site glamorgan is playing county cricket, scotland is playing county nation league(odi) and will play county championship(4 day) in near future. so will ireland in near future.
any other league aroung the world they are likely gonna play their home grown player not average player from bangladesh.

Bangladesh is a test playing nation and has been for a numbers of years and its our fault that we still moaning that our domestic is poor and still waiting for a strong cricket league..
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Old July 15, 2005, 04:34 PM
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In Holland or to any other Associate Countries, you will not find a structure even...................
What do you base that statement upon?

I have played in Holland (some time ago) and know the structure in Scotland. Both have national club leagues. Scotland has a pyramid structure so that any club can be the best in the country. The top league has 10 clubs from across Scotland with good class overseas professionals ie. test and state players. The same is also true of the 20 clubs below them. This also applies in Holland where Neil McKenzie of SA is a pro this season.

In fact they both have long established structures and are actively looking to improve them and improve standards. Instead Scotland need to consolidate the level between club and the first class game they encounter against the counties. They are talking about district teams from Scotland, Ireland and Holland playing each other.

Nor do I do believe Ireland or Scotland will be playing in the county championship. In fact Scotland's involvement with the counties is being reduced not increased next season by the ECB. The number of games is to be halved. Rather they will need to look at the international stage to find matches to develop their players.

As for such players getting into the counties, the counties seem quite ameable to taking on players from europe if they are good enough. A 17 year old Scot has just joined Middlesex. Scotland has at least 5 county players. Ireland has a similar number. Holland has at least 2 county players, the same for Denmark. Oh and Ed Joyce has just qualified for England and so probably has played his last game for Ireland.

Edited on, July 15, 2005, 10:27 PM GMT, by Trueblue.
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Old July 17, 2005, 10:17 AM
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guyz chill!
bangladesh is truly betta then these small yet to make a mark teams!




an indian


Edited on, July 17, 2005, 3:31 PM GMT, by reverse_swing.
Reason: Removed all caps.
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Old July 17, 2005, 02:56 PM
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ireland has ed joyce!!!
he is the very higly rated in county cricket here in england and being seen as next graham thrope.

Ireland beat west indies last summer when like of lara, gayle, sarwan, chanderpaul was playing for west indies in that game.
and we beat Australia
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Old July 17, 2005, 03:43 PM
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ireland has ed joyce!!!
he is the very higly rated in county cricket here in england and being seen as next graham thrope.

Ireland beat west indies last summer when like of lara, gayle, sarwan, chanderpaul was playing for west indies in that game.
and we beat Australia



get the feeling that Indian are not a good lover of Bangladeshi Cricketer!!!
example:
we are not allowed to participate in their Ranjit Trophy or dulip trophy, remember they last time changed venue with a very short notice and Bangla boys was crushed very badly,, as a elder cricket playing nation they should allow us playing their domestic tournaments, if they feel to develop us without any further criticise as the pagriwala sidhu did or pagriwala maninder did......... samethings are applicabe for pakistan, and sri lanka!!! i do not know if we are bold out within two days by sri lanks, then are they still continue to play against us or not??
they refused us to make a full test tour in october, for the reason of their dewali (it was remembered, there was a pak-india match was held on that dewali day (probably) last year

the indication is clear from ganguly earlier, that they always try to love to introduce a two tier test
i must tell to any indian, or irish, holland, scotish lover, that we :tiger: have ash-mash, aftab......... soon you will find cricket is something very difficult to play, because Bangladesh will get the No#1 ranking in ODI as well as Test ranking as per ICC rules
they will not feel comfortable to play against Bangladesh............... they will try to scape like today's india...........!!
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Old July 17, 2005, 03:52 PM
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In Holland or to any other Associate Countries, you will not find a structure even...................
What do you base that statement upon?

I have played in Holland (some time ago) and know the structure in Scotland..........................As for such players getting into the counties, the counties seem quite ameable to taking on players from europe if they are good enough. A 17 year old Scot has just joined Middlesex. Scotland has at least 5 county players. Ireland has a similar number. Holland has at least 2 county players, the same for Denmark. Oh and Ed Joyce has just qualified for England and so probably has played his last game for Ireland.

Edited on, July 15, 2005, 10:27 PM GMT, by Trueblue.
tell me after the london bomb blast, how many pakistani players will be in action in county................. and i am sure there is no chance at all for our ashraful-aftab and mashrafe to take a chance to play at county.................. and it is true, county ppl will take players from europe and will not from pakistan even........ without considering shoeb, mustaq............... but india is okay to county............there is a clear racism in these in county, and in india even..................
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Old July 17, 2005, 11:43 PM
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What if Bangladesh loses while trying to play these countires to go up the table!!!! Mor calls for our test status to be taken away no doubt.....
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