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Old November 25, 2005, 12:32 PM
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Default India\'s problems against SA

they lost big and now trailing 1-2 in this series, just one match to go.

i think once again they got their batting order wrong, sending in pathan to open and that too in a green wicket against a good pace attack?? another problem was that tendu seems to be completely off color. after the 2 good innings against SL, he hasnt scored anything significant. another bad decision was to send dhoni so late.... he is probably the most explosive of indian batsman at the moment but sending him so late meant he has nothing to do except blocking to save the team from being allout? chappel seems to be out of his mind(or is it dravid).

SA is no joke, they won 20 consecutive matches certainly for a reason. india should have stuck to their best combination instead of experimenting. here is my chosen order

2. gambhir
3.tendu (or pathan depending on situation)
4. dravid

if tendu is offcolor, replace him with raina
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Old November 25, 2005, 12:55 PM
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Ninth match in a row that the team batting second won. The last six matches against SL and all the three v SAF.
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Old November 25, 2005, 02:20 PM
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I guess India just got to counter Pollock, he is just doing too much damage at the top.

As pointed out, Sehwag should be opening. He atleast willmake Pollock think twice before he bowls.

Tendu has too many things going on in his mind i guess, getting out to pollock 3rd time in a row.

attack ! its the only way to counter Pollock.

cheers !
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Old November 26, 2005, 11:36 AM
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This was India's first ever 10 wkt. loss at home!

Chappel wants to take the team to next level and wants to do well in WC2007!

He didn't like grass in the wicket!

Are we going to go to the next level by playing on slow dry tracks??

As far as I am concerned ,Chappel stinks.
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Old November 27, 2005, 07:13 AM
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well u need a ganguly 2 counter a pollock!
my pick wud hav bin ganguly against pollock coz he slams the pollock ball quite hard!!
i rem those three huge sixes......
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Old November 27, 2005, 09:36 AM
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The only problem is that Chappel wants to be the nonplaying captain. Dravid is just became his masters voice. I heard and read he has a good cricketing brain. But in this series either those were false or he is obeying chappels order. The reason, Can some one tell me what is logic of Pathan and Gambhir opening. When you have Tendulakor and Sehwag - two of the best opening batsmen of one day cricket. Pathan scored at top because of his shock value but once regulerly put, he would score less and less. You need specialist to face new ball. What is the logic of Dhoni coming as late as 5 down? He is fire cracker and should come whn field restriction is on not in middle over with spread out fielding. Kaif, Dravid and Yovi are more suitable for that.
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Old November 28, 2005, 12:03 PM
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India won by five wickets and the series is tied 2-2. Again the chasing team won.

Dadababu ofcourse will have some new excuse to put India down

>> Can some one tell me what is logic of Pathan and Gambhir opening.

What is wrong with experimenting ? It has failed the first time. They won't try it now, or may give it another try later. That is how it should be.

Chappell did this sort of thing against SL - Pathan at No.3, Dhoni at No.3 etc. You could argue against it that it was not a good idea to sent in the a pinch hitter or a lower order batsman at the nearly new ball, but it had a decent success rate.
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Old November 28, 2005, 12:32 PM
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What problem? I don't see any problem India just tied a series against the mighty SA (2nd in the world) and did the unexpected by beating SL 6-1.

Logic of trying out different people at openning and 1st down:

WC is near: The new coach must know what his players are capable of doing. Rather than trying out right before the WC or in the world cup it is better to test the waters now. It is always good to be ready for all situations the team may face in the main one (WC 2007).

Edited on, November 28, 2005, 5:33 PM GMT, by Cats_eye.
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Old November 28, 2005, 03:17 PM
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the left right combo actually works, so keeping gambhir as opener i guess is the right decision. i agree with pathan or dhoni being sent in 3 as shock situation.

i was actually surprised by dravid decision of using kartik in the last 2 overs of the innings. kartik has never impressed me, he doesnt have variation, a crucial element to succed in international stage. consequently he will succeed time to time in indian turners and will always get smacked outside. i can understand using saqlain or even kumble in the last over because they can surprise the batsman but why kartik?
agarkar is quite handy on indian wickets in the final overs because he can do reverse swing, but because he got carted around in first overs he was not used. actually bowler like agarkar are better with the old ball than new ball. but that fact seemed to completely elude dravid.
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Old November 28, 2005, 05:50 PM
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I don't blaim chappel for experienting. He is focusing on WC and eventhough die hard Indian fans wouldnt like to lose, it will happen every so often. However, giving players like Dhoni or Pathan more experience batting up the order will definately come in handy. Another batman I want to see batting up the order sometime is Agarkar. He is a good batsman but never got to bat up the order like Pathan.
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