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Old March 23, 2006, 01:07 AM
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Default Ashraful and Bashar's Performance UNACCEPTABLE

The reason Aftab was playing aggresively was because he knew there were two world-class batsmen coming after him. But a less than 5 something and a 0!! We are expecting so much and paying thousands of dollars every month for this!! We cannot always completely depend on the first 2 or 3 batsmen every match. Even if B'desh goes on to win this match, I find it completely unacceptable.
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Old March 23, 2006, 01:59 AM
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take it easy, in any batting lineup u will have some failures and some succeses. Even the aussie one.

batsmen arent machine u know its alot harder being consistent as a batsman rather than a bowler, as a batsman anything can happen and u only have one chance to bat.
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Old March 23, 2006, 02:27 AM
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My only problem with Bashar was that, instead of playing anchor and supporting others he played a shot, which was nor aggressive neither passive and paid the price, that is the most unacceptable thing considering the situation. He should have grown up man, still he is our top batsman wish him good luck and good return to form.
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Old March 23, 2006, 02:29 AM
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No mention of Javed Omar at the top of the topic? Or could it be that people actually have no expectation for him?
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Old March 23, 2006, 04:09 AM
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Ashraful and Bashar's dismissal were really stupid. These deliveries could've been easily put away for four.

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No mention of Javed Omar at the top of the topic? Or could it be that people actually have no expectation for him?
His failure is what our team needs the most. 5 more failures, and hopefully our team management will try Nafees Iqbal or someone else.
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Old March 23, 2006, 06:58 AM
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The reason Aftab was playing aggresively was because he knew there were two world-class batsmen coming after him. But a less than 5 something and a 0!! We are expecting so much and paying thousands of dollars every month for this!! We cannot always completely depend on the first 2 or 3 batsmen every match. Even if B'desh goes on to win this match, I find it completely unacceptable.
Ash and Bash should own up to their failure and say sorry.

Edited on, March 23, 2006, 1:50 PM GMT, by BanglaCool.
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Old March 23, 2006, 07:04 AM
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This failure from Bashar and Ashraful was to be expected.

(I was expecting it, so no surprise in there for me)
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Old March 23, 2006, 07:10 AM
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*sigh*....after the other two games you lot found one person to pick on (ie JO in the 1st & Kapali in the 2nd).... this time you found two...must we ALWAYS complain... i mean after the first really easy game this was bound to happen anyway...at least no one has opened a poll this time round
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Old March 23, 2006, 07:12 AM
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I wish I am wrong. But Ashraful, I feel is the most over rated player in history of Bangladesh cricket.
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Old March 23, 2006, 07:17 AM
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I wish I am wrong. But Ashraful, I feel is the most over rated player in history of Bangladesh cricket.
your wish is true........you are absolutely wrong
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Old March 23, 2006, 07:25 AM
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I wish I am wrong. But Ashraful, I feel is the most over rated player in history of Bangladesh cricket.
your wish is true........you are absolutely wrong
yup! absolutely!
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Old March 23, 2006, 07:59 AM
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He also might be the most unpredictable player. I am hopeful that with age(and after a marriage), he will become all that he can be.
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Old March 23, 2006, 08:02 AM
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Come On!! Are not they the 2 guys who designed our most of the ODI wins? Talking about the wins agains AUS or SL, the partnership of Ash-Bash actully presented us many happy moments.

I thought they 2 were a bit relaxed without getting much chance in the serries, and of course with the result of first 2 matches. The way they got out were really a shame to watch. But keeping the past aside, we must need them both to come up with some runs before the serries against AUS. What about sending Ash and no. 3 and Bashar at no. 4 on last odi?? Hope they will return with some good score.

Edited on, March 23, 2006, 1:04 PM GMT, by sar2005.
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Old March 23, 2006, 08:15 AM
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Ashraful and Bashar's dismissal were really stupid. These deliveries could've been easily put away for four.

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No mention of Javed Omar at the top of the topic? Or could it be that people actually have no expectation for him?
His failure is what our team needs the most. 5 more failures, and hopefully our team management will try Nafees Iqbal or someone else.
i am still thinking..if JO played 57 out of 87 ball what SN played today (70%boundary)....the fans could have been thrown him out...nobody is blamming SN for slow batting...this is the sheet anchor role what JO normally play...if JO played that today..what fans would have been told...i wounder..
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Old March 23, 2006, 08:16 AM
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This failure from Bashar and Ashraful was to be expected.

(I was expecting it, so no surprise in there for me)
same here i was also ecpecting this...but i was expecting 50 innings from pilot...althoug he didn't played bad but i am absolutely sure, they will show their true class in 4th ODI...

Edited on, March 23, 2006, 1:19 PM GMT, by crktjani.
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Old March 23, 2006, 08:24 AM
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I thought they 2 were a bit relaxed without getting much chance in the serries, and of course with the result of first 2 matches. The way they got out were really a shame to watch. But keeping the past aside, we must need them both to come up with some runs before the serries against AUS. What about sending Ash and no. 3 and Bashar at no. 4 on last odi?? Hope they will return with some good score.

Edited on, March 23, 2006, 1:04 PM GMT, by sar2005.
While I think its right to blame them for their low scores, I think the pitch had a part to play in a lot of our dismissals! It was just so darned slow! Our entire top order perished because they played at balls which didn't come on to the bat, and they played their shots a little too early. They didn't quite get the measure of the pace in the wicket!
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Old March 23, 2006, 08:37 AM
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While I think its right to blame them for their low scores, I think the pitch had a part to play in a lot of our dismissals! It was just so darned slow! Our entire top order perished because they played at balls which didn't come on to the bat, and they played their shots a little too early. They didn't quite get the measure of the pace in the wicket!
Well, it's not a good thing for the home country. Does that mean they have not played some cricket in Fatullah to know the pitch? Or the pitch was completely different from what it is known to be??

Another critereon of a good batsman is how quickly you can adopt the pace of the wicket. For that you need to play with singles for a while. I'm sure they know the basics but just like other days, it was another mistake
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Old March 23, 2006, 08:41 AM
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Ashraful and Bashar's dismissal were really stupid. These deliveries could've been easily put away for four.

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No mention of Javed Omar at the top of the topic? Or could it be that people actually have no expectation for him?
His failure is what our team needs the most. 5 more failures, and hopefully our team management will try Nafees Iqbal or someone else.
Dear, his failure initiated the collapse otherwise it would have been a high scoring match. So he is really important to keep wickets
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Old March 23, 2006, 08:50 AM
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Ashraful and Bashar's dismissal were really stupid. These deliveries could've been easily put away for four.

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No mention of Javed Omar at the top of the topic? Or could it be that people actually have no expectation for him?
His failure is what our team needs the most. 5 more failures, and hopefully our team management will try Nafees Iqbal or someone else.
Dear, his failure initiated the collapse otherwise it would have been a high scoring match. So he is really important to keep wickets
Don't agree at all! His failure didnt initiate anything. There was a 44 run partnership after Javed got out! The batting problems (including Javed's dismissal) were largely due to the stickyness of the wicket. The ball just didn't come on to the bat!

Having said that, even the Javed-haters understand the need for a good start and the need for someone to play a responsible innings at the top. However, we don't think Javed is the best person to play that sort of role. We would like to see someone like Nafis Iqbal take that job on and do it better than Javed. But that isn't going to happen as long as Javed is there! This series would have been the perfect opportunity to get NI back in, but oh well, all that the selectors have done is allowed Javed to consolidate his position!
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Old March 23, 2006, 09:02 AM
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i think after ash plays a good innings he should be dropped for the nest match, its a all too familiar sequence after he plays well in one match he plays poorly in the next 3-5. i love ash to bits and on his day he is the best player of international superstar quality we have although mortaza catching up.

pleased with todays win, maybe ash should be rested for last match of series?
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Old March 23, 2006, 09:07 AM
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5 front-roll for Ash and 1 extra-drill for Javed.
As the captain, i will have Basher for 2 days dress punishment.
For this poor performence...rest team will have 1 extra prep on friday.

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Old March 23, 2006, 09:08 AM
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The reason Aftab was playing aggresively was because he knew there were two world-class batsmen coming after him. But a less than 5 something and a 0!! We are expecting so much and paying thousands of dollars every month for this!! We cannot always completely depend on the first 2 or 3 batsmen every match. Even if B'desh goes on to win this match, I find it completely unacceptable.
Very right.
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Old March 23, 2006, 09:12 AM
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Just give these guys a break...... Ash's out was kinda sad I believe.... Aftab put away similar kind of balls to fences more than once but when ash went to play it, it went stright to the fielder.....
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Old March 23, 2006, 09:12 AM
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The reason Aftab was playing aggresively was because he knew there were two world-class batsmen coming after him. But a less than 5 something and a 0!!
Well such failure is needed By law of statistical avarage I am sure they will do better in the next match. Forget about todays, we have won anyways. Think about it if aftab, ash and bash -all three clicks, it will be a nightmere for Keniya for sure. Most probably we are going to see it in the next match.
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Old March 23, 2006, 09:20 AM
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if aftab, ash and bash -all three clicks, it will be a nightmere for Keniya for sure. Most probably we are going to see it in the next match.
Wel said..i also belive so...a 350+ is not impossible
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