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View Poll Results: Do you want to see Dave Whatmore continue to coach Bangladesh Cricket Team?
Yes 40 63.49%
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Old April 29, 2006, 02:58 PM
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Default Do we want Dave Whatmore to discontinue his mission in Bangladesh?

Dav's mission in Bangladesh appears to have reached its peak. No doubt he has given a LOT to the boys, but it appears that for whatever reason he is being unable to make any further progress. One of the possible reasons will be his reluctance to recruit Speacialist Batting and Bowling coaches. I have immense respect for DW's coaching and his methods, but it is very clear that our team needs the service of Speacialist Batting and Bowling coaches. And it is also clear that as long as DW is our coach, this is not happening. So maybe it is time to let go and move on for the overall betterment of our Cricket.
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Old April 29, 2006, 03:58 PM
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You have a good point but still I believe he should be with us till WC07. He can leave us after our semi-final birth in WC07
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Old April 29, 2006, 04:02 PM
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i want to see him as our coach as long as possible. he is one of the best things that happened to our team.
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I want to see him continue at least until WC 2007 is over. It would be a better if BD gets seperate batting and bowling speciality coaches to work with Dav or whoever replaces him in future.
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Old April 29, 2006, 08:27 PM
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Dav should be with us at least the WC 2007. If we can then we should keep him more longer. He has done a lot , at least he has healed the damage done by Mohsin Kamal and others. Do you guys see the consequence of Greg Chappel in the indian team? Personal revenge might grasp our team very easily so don't think we will get a good coach straightaway if Dav leaves us.
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Old April 29, 2006, 08:36 PM
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If players temperment don't develop after playing so many ODI matches... I think the coach can do very little. I don't think a batting coach will make any drastic difference. If a world cup winning coach cannot make a difference, then i don't know who can?

PS: It was painful to lose the 3rd ODI, it kinda shows how inconsistent we are
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he's da best... so far... no coach is comparable 2 em...
dis is he's team... n look at how dis team turn out 2 b.... we're gonna win.. WC.. if our som plyrs bcom a lil mor consistent......
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Dav did a lot for us and still have much more to do. so, he should stay. Changing the coach will not any good. We need to change our mentality.
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Old April 29, 2006, 11:21 PM
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bhai, ekta ODI kharap bhabe harlam ar omni coach ke ber kore deoyar chinta. kheye deye ki ar kaaj nai apnader. Like another member said, he's the best thing that ever happend to BD cricket. Batting coach can improve yr technique but cannot improve yr temparament which our top order lacks.
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bhai, ekta ODI kharap bhabe harlam ar omni coach ke ber kore deoyar chinta. kheye deye ki ar kaaj nai apnader.
What made you think that my thread was based on one match?? I had a look at last 2-3 years and based my comment on that entire period. I too agree that he is the best thing that ever happened to BD cricket. My point was, is he capable of contributing any further?

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Batting coach can improve yr technique but cannot improve yr temparament which our top order lacks.
You said it here .... exactly how many of our batsmen are technically correct? When I look at their batting I see them playing in Backfoot on a slow pitch .... I see them shuffling in the crese when the new ball is in operation .... I see them playing cross bat shots as if they are playing street cricket. Same goes with the bowling, while our bowlers are doing great, they lack some finness that results in fewer wickets. It is easy for our oppositions to figure out our bowling attack because the bowlers have only one dimension.

Temperment alone without technique will keep us exactly in the place that we currently are in. We will have to pray for luck, a miracle or poor performance from the opposition to secure a win.

So, appointing specialist batting and bowling coach is a must for us. And DW has made it clear on several occassions that he will not allow that to happen probably because it does not fit within his methods. Hence, my conclusion is, its time to part with him and move on.
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Old April 30, 2006, 12:53 AM
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Dave must be allowed to continue. He's done a great job

Bd's progress will not be very fast...hope they can peak around WC2007
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Dave must be allowed to continue.

There has been a gradual progress which has been really positive.
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I think he has done a great job after he came...!
He is the only think thats consistant abuot BD cricket team...
So I voted yessssssssssss
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no...........
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Can see shafin is one of those who said NO (though I would like to see his explanation). But I it's interesting to see 34% of the poll (8 votes to be precise) so far does not want DW continues. Would be interesting if they could explain of their NO votes.
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Old April 30, 2006, 10:07 AM
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Consider this, if he was any other team like India, Pakistan, or WI ; you will see the improvement within 2 years. I am sure those team will win the world cup. Bangladesh should be glad to be have him. I think BD should pick up 18 best possible oneday players and train them under DEV. And rotate them in different events.
I hope BD players watching WI vs ZIm game. They need to learn other team's strength/weakness. That might help. Just like Aus studied us after 1st test.

Thanks to DEV for his effort. Hopefully our players learn from the last series. There is no other better team to learn from, than Aus.
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Can see shafin is one of those who said NO (though I would like to see his explanation). But I it's interesting to see 34% of the poll (8 votes to be precise) so far does not want DW continues. Would be interesting if they could explain of their NO votes.
I opened the thread with a NO and with full explanation too. I hope a few others explain thier thaughts about the "NO" vote. I am sure more interesting thoughts will come out.
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NO. I think the Bangladesh is moving to the right direction. The management have to more effort in finding players, and creating a better First Class cricket league.
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What made you think that my thread was based on one match?? I had a look at last 2-3 years and based my comment on that entire period. I too agree that he is the best thing that ever happened to BD cricket. My point was, is he capable of contributing any further?
if ur comment is based on last 2/3 yrs then why didnt u open this thread after the srilanka or kenya series. U only opened this thread because we played bad in Aussie series. Ofcourse he can contribute more. Are we WC champion yet? He made a team like Srilanka champion not too long ago.

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So, appointing specialist batting and bowling coach is a must for us. And DW has made it clear on several occassions that he will not allow that to happen probably because it does not fit within his methods. Hence, my conclusion is, its time to part with him and move on.
Didn DW brought a batting coach in his early days? I am pretty sure he did. So its not that he doesnt like the idea. May be he knows something abt our batsmen more than we do. But I do agree that we do need a bowling coach for our bowlers. But that doesnt mean he needs to go. He shud be here at least next WC.
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Can see shafin is one of those who said NO (though I would like to see his explanation). But I it's interesting to see 34% of the poll (8 votes to be precise) so far does not want DW continues. Would be interesting if they could explain of their NO votes.
Well, the thread title asks you whether you want DW to discontinue, but the question top at the poll is whether you want him to continue. So, I guess some people got confused, or did not read the poll question, and voted NO (other way to say- they don't want DW to discontinue).

I am not a DW fan either, but there is no other way it makes sense to me why should so many people would suddenly want to change our coach when we have less than a year to prepare for the next World Cup.

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He will be there for the world cup next year... And he did bring a batting coach in, more than once... A man who has worked with the Lankans and does alot of work in Uk and Australia.
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A lot of things come into play in a coach’s part, a good coaching ability is not confined only to teaching good batting/bowling technique, temper and time of application, a good communication with the players and the ability to know them also play a very big part as well. Dave Whatmore proved his skill as a coach when he was in charge of Sri-Lanka who are not very different from us in physique and mentality! It proves, Dave understands very well the people in this part of the world. So, we should have him as long as he is physically and mentally fit to take our charge!! Asking for a CHANGE and coming up with a suitable replacement are miles apart in reality, we saw twice what disgrace and humility our cricket suffered when we had the known Trevere Chappell and not-so-known Kamal recruited as our coach for some different short stint. One talked too much and the other didn’t talk at all! I remember Trevere commented (don’t remember the exact phrase) to press after a humiliation defeat in NZ that ...these guys (BD) are not like us (Aus-Eng), they don’t turn furious to avenge a defeat, rather they take it easy!! And the other one (Mohsin) would go back to his room after a defeat and put the ‘DO Not Disturb’ sign ON!!
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One of the possible reasons will be his reluctance to recruit Speacialist Batting and Bowling coaches. .....it is very clear that our team needs the service of Speacialist Batting and Bowling coaches. And it is also clear that as long as DW is our coach, this is not happening....
aaah... you should be given the position of a top-ranked BD politician, who has the ability to accuse people without any guilt or solid information!!

What exactly makes you believe that DAV has the ultimate authority to hire or reject batting/bowling sub-coaches coaches for BD team? Or is it just a wild shot that you are pleased to go with?

Are you aware that it is a crime to come up with annoying rumors when you are talking in public? I really wonder!
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