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Old September 14, 2006, 07:42 PM
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Default Ashraful as opener in Champions Trophy

Team management is serious about playing Ashraful as opener in the Champions Trophy and ultimately make him a permanent partner of Shahriar Nafees.

Detail from todays Amar Desh

IMO, this is a good move and I hope Ash will cement his place as an opener otherwise it will be difficult for him to retain his place in the national side.
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Old September 14, 2006, 08:03 PM
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This is a win-win situation for Ash, this way he can do his Afridi-like batting and wont have to worry about losing his wicket, because the rest of the batting line up will still be available, so wont be much pressure even if he does. (Ash Mentality)

Or maybe like Rajin, putting him in the opening spot may make him more responsible and he may finally get some runs.

Either way im not sure wether this is a good or bad thing, id say lets give him a go and let him show us what he can do as an opener.
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Old September 14, 2006, 08:52 PM
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i agree with baisab...less pressure. plus the most talented batsman gets a chance to play as many overs as possible
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Old September 14, 2006, 09:20 PM
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i agree with baisab...less pressure. plus the most talented batsman gets a chance to play as many overs as possible
Most talented batsman! I heard that he keeps his talent in the "rest room" while batting in the field!!
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Old September 14, 2006, 09:57 PM
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Less pressure !!! I think Ash only got two matches to prove his worth. If he keeps failing, Mehrab should be brought in the team in his place in the match against Zimbabwe.
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Old September 14, 2006, 10:22 PM
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If he is as vulnerable to new ball as his other colleagues then it will be suicidal. He can at least score runs when the ball gets older. With all his "talent", he is not an Afridi.
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Old September 14, 2006, 10:48 PM
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I personally think it's a good move.Specially for the team.As Ash-Fool has already been tried in so many different positions and almost everywhere he proved his grand irresponsibility.Send him to Open with SN means a better combination to me.SN can play safe and rotate the strike and if Ash-Fool plays little sensibly by only hitting loose balls, we can definitely have a good start.Lets see how it goes in CT.
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Old September 14, 2006, 11:03 PM
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well, good or bad, i think this is the last resort for us. after all, he has been tried in all other possible batting line-up before, including opening.
Personally, i suppor the move. it also gives a lefty-righty combination for our opening pair. hopefully Ash can go on with his business of dashing with SN achors the innings and makes a steady progress.
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Old September 15, 2006, 12:48 AM
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Default I've always maintained Ash should open ..

And given the license to just hit ... at that position a cameo of 20-30 interspersed with the occasional big innings would be perfect. This is what Australia gets from Gillie and India from Virru. If Ash's hitting then SN will not feel the urge to play low % shots. And with the fielders in close, Ash will have to play in the V and pull and not try some of the cheeky stuff he tends to do when the field is spread out. With the powerplay on, his hit or miss style works best as even mishits will go for runs. For middle order strike rotation we should have Bashar and Sakib and for late innings pyrotechnics Aftab & Forhad.
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Old September 15, 2006, 08:16 AM
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I guess its the last option we got. Ash should be the opener. Do or die. Perform or get out. He should get some chances though. Preferably more than two. Get him few matches to get used to it and if his inconsistency continues, we have to move on. But it is an exciting thing to see him open. Go for it, its great to see Bangladesh team trying to be positive.
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Old September 15, 2006, 08:22 AM
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If Ash is in the first eleven (which he shouldn't be based on his form), he should open. I agree totally with al-furqan:

This is a win-win situation for Ash, this way he can do his Afridi-like batting and wont have to worry about losing his wicket, because the rest of the batting line up will still be available, so wont be much pressure even if he does. (Ash Mentality)

Or maybe like Rajin, putting him in the opening spot may make him more responsible and he may finally get some runs.

Either way im not sure wether this is a good or bad thing, id say lets give him a go and let him show us what he can do as an opener.

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Old September 15, 2006, 08:29 AM
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Just borrowed this quote from another thread:

Originally Posted by Tokyobreeze
Specially when the dream involves Ash-Fool who will convert all our dreams to Ash and will make us look like Fools.

He is really a gamble in any position. But opening with him gives us more chances, thats it!
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Old September 15, 2006, 08:42 AM
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This is a great move, at least he can't do any worse as an opener than Rajin has done recently + I do agree there will be less pressure which should allow him to play his natural game. Now we can only hope he'll do that..
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Old September 15, 2006, 09:03 AM
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i agree with baisab...less pressure. plus the most talented batsman gets a chance to play as many overs as possible
So you are saying our most talented batsman was not getting enough overs to prove his worth? Are you on something or what?

I thought one over was enough to prove his worth, as now a days he is very frugal in that aspect, never waste the 2nd over anymore. Hand it over to the other bastman to prove their worth.
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Old September 15, 2006, 09:14 AM
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And given the license to just hit ... at that position a cameo of 20-30 interspersed with the occasional big innings would be perfect. This is what Australia gets from Gillie and India from Virru. If Ash's hitting then SN will not feel the urge to play low % shots. And with the fielders in close, Ash will have to play in the V and pull and not try some of the cheeky stuff he tends to do when the field is spread out. With the powerplay on, his hit or miss style works best as even mishits will go for runs. For middle order strike rotation we should have Bashar and Sakib and for late innings pyrotechnics Aftab & Forhad.
Are you saying, in the best case scenario for Ash, he can't play in the BD team when/if the power play rules are eliminated by ICC?
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Old September 15, 2006, 09:16 AM
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The notion of playing his natural game is all bull to me. If he can't adjust his game with the pitch, now the new ball (swings), his faults will glare more. This move will buy some time for Mehrab Jr. He will get accustomed playing with the big boys by coming in late. He or Sakib will take over from the Rainhill hero sooner or later.
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Old September 15, 2006, 09:21 AM
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He or Sakib will take over from the Rainhill hero sooner or later.
I trust your prediction. But as long as he is in the team, where would you like to play him? When he is vulnerable, he is vulnerable to anything - swing, spin, seam, name it! When his (and our) luck favors, he can play all sorts of balls. I bet you will agree that we have better chances with him as an openner.
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this is the position most suited for at the moment. bd now got some middle order batsman who can rotate the strike and hold their own. so ashraful should be opening....

tendu started to open when he was about the same age ash is now. after that his average jumped up. even though ash is not a tendu but he wants to follow him. one of the thing tendu did, he always took some time to have a look at the pitch and bowlers before let go. ash should try to do the same. if he can survive the restricted overs he should put his head down and target a big innings. its all a confidence thing, if he can get some runs under his belt, bowlers will not like to bowl to him.
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Old September 15, 2006, 09:55 AM
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one of the thing tendu did, he always took some time to have a look at the pitch and bowlers before let go. ash should try to do the same.
And who is going to tell him that!
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Old September 15, 2006, 10:06 AM
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Hai hai abar tendu-ke neyee Tana Tani?

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Old September 15, 2006, 10:13 AM
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I'd be happy if Ash could score 141 in 3 qualifying matches and stay at wicket in total of 50 overs.

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if ash stays 50 over bd will score 400 and we all know that never going to happen...
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Old September 15, 2006, 10:20 AM
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if ash stays 50 over bd will score 400 and we all know that never going to happen...
I meant in total of 50 overs in three games. not in one game.
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Old September 15, 2006, 11:27 AM
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ash is not doing it in the middle overs...so instead of putting him there opening is the best option LEFT.

i applaud the BCB for having the balls to make such a move...at this point the only thing that will change ash, is that fact that he is facing a permenant axing, not just for a game or 2, or at worst a whole series.

we have forhad, sakib, and mehrab to thank IF ash really learns something.
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we have forhad, sakib, and mehrab to thank IF ash really learns something.
I thought Golla,Rajin,Kapali,Tushar, all others competing for his place. Hint hint same category players all together going for one place. I think nothing will work unless we know how to play pace bowling in a pace friendly pitch. Our batsmen hardly can play and on the other hand they also suck in spin. What good are they besides throwing wickets.
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