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Old October 23, 2006, 05:00 PM
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Default Firefox 2.0 FINAL available for download

http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozi.../releases/2.0/

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Firefox 2.0 is now officially available at mozilla.com
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Old October 23, 2006, 05:35 PM
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Downloaded and installed. thanks
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Old October 23, 2006, 05:37 PM
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lets find out how good this is
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Old October 23, 2006, 06:06 PM
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Now it looks more like Opera.

Well, it's been copying Opera from day 1, so no surprise there.
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Old October 23, 2006, 06:12 PM
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In fact, Opera 9.x trumps Firefox IMHO.

Just look at all these features.

http://www.opera.com/products/desktop/
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Old October 23, 2006, 06:21 PM
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i like firefox better. IE sucks
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Old October 23, 2006, 06:41 PM
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This is my story in a nutshell.

I thought IE sucked too. That was WAY back. And then I switched to Opera in 2000. Opera was the first browser to provide tabbed browsing (among other innovative things), and I have been tabbing since then.

2/3 years later came newbie Firefox, a slick-looking Opera clone; I switched to Firefox, even though it bothered me that Firefox touted a lot of Opera's features as their own inventions. Nothing bother an Opera user more when a n00b firefox user tells them about the holy grail that is tabbed browsing.

Now Opera has trumped Firefox, so I have switched back to Opera.

Opera has always been the fastest, most secure and most web standard compliant all this time. And they always come up with cool, new stuff.

I dumped Opera temporarily because it was getting a little too feature heavy for my taste. Not any more. Fortunately, they have cut all the GUI fat in recent versions, making it my best choice again.
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Old October 23, 2006, 06:46 PM
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how about new IE7. they seemed to have copied everything from Opera and FF.

Once i had to choose between Opera and FF. but some how i liked FF better.
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Old October 23, 2006, 06:52 PM
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how about new IE7. they seemed to have copied everything from Opera and FF.
IE7 still lags behind Opera and FF.

But yes, I agree that for the casual user, FF serves as well as Opera.
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Old October 24, 2006, 06:16 AM
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IE7 is rubbish. The new interface sucks and it looks UGLY if you use windows classic theme.

Firefox 2.0 is more responsive and uses less memory than previous versions (memory usage was the only downside of Firefox in pre-2.0 days).
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Old October 24, 2006, 07:05 AM
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Opera does eat a lot of memory, more than firefox
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As long as I know, Opera is not free. or they have made it free? Last time I used opera was long time ago, and I needed a serial number to either install it or to enable all the features. how is it doing now?
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As long as I know, Opera is not free. or they have made it free? Last time I used opera was long time ago, and I needed a serial number to either install it or to enable all the features. how is it doing now?
Opera is completely free now
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Opera does eat a lot of memory, more than firefox
Really? Most of the Opera users claim that Opera uses less memory than both IE and Firefox.
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Old October 24, 2006, 08:10 AM
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Well, my opera 9 is eating up a lot. And it *feels* like FF 1.5, my previous browser, used less memory. Maybe I need to run a controlled test to compare memory usage between the two.
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Opera and FF are both good in terms of usability, but still have compatibility issues, which forces me to use IE ocassionally. Though I disagree above observations, Opera barely takes any more memory than IE or FF does on my PC. In fact, right now I have all 3 browsers running the same website and FF 2 is using the most amount of memory (25,656k) followed by Opera 9 (19,888 k) and IE 6 (19,568 k)... IE 7 sucks anyway so I uninstalled it.
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Old October 24, 2006, 09:40 AM
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Opera and FF are both good in terms of usability, but still have compatibility issues, which forces me to use IE ocassionally.
Actually, it's the other way around. IE has been incompatible with web standards and letting users build websites that don't conform to them.
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I am a bit ignorant about these browser software. Never used anything except IE which comes default with my laptop.

Now, it seems FF 2 is better than IE 7. Now can anyone tell me how can I install FF 2 ? Using the link Spitfire provided, I cannot find any install, download or setup button.
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Old October 24, 2006, 10:08 AM
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Opera 9: http://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?id=28418

Firefox 2: http://www.mozilla.com/products/down...win&lang=en-US
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I am a bit ignorant about these browser software. Never used anything except IE which comes default with my laptop.

Now, it seems FF 2 is better than IE 7. Now can anyone tell me how can I install FF 2 ? Using the link Spitfire provided, I cannot find any install, download or setup button.
You would just have to browse little over there. Here is the install file. This is English-US version 2.0.
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Actually, it's the other way around. IE has been incompatible with web standards and letting users build websites that don't conform to them.
Compatibility stretches beyond W3C design standards. Opera has severe backwards compatibility issues with major web-based applications, rich-text editors and across other operating systems. The reason being newer versions tend go back to square one and make it even harder for developers to keep up or start from scratch with so called new or revised "standards". It's just inconsistency, at least from Opera I'd expect it more readily support existing web standards.
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Old October 24, 2006, 12:02 PM
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It seems that Opera has solved a lot of their problems with rich text editors.

http://operawiki.info/TextAreaEditor

What web applications are you talking about?
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It seems that Opera has solved a lot of their problems with rich text editors.

http://operawiki.info/TextAreaEditor

What web applications are you talking about?
Mostly CMS/blog/forum and other content publishing applications that require use of advanced rich-text editing tools.

Opera 9 currently only supports basic text editors, that's even because they followed what FF has done. Though more powerful RTE like FCKeditor, which is used by many applications is still not supported. I followed this site from the link you gave me and it clearly shows the lack of RTE compatibility with Opera, even Netscape and Safari is doing better.

Opera also has rendering and other compatibility issues on its Mac counterpart.

It seems Opera's vigorous attempt at perfectionism is too problematic. It's trying to offer the user flexibility of everything under one hood, but neglecting the difficulty it sets developers to stay on top of maintenance. It's not always possible for sites to avoid buggy code, especially CMS-based sites which can be used by novice end-users with no regard for the latest "web standards". Opera simply assumes or "expects" things work with "Opera", instead of making their software more accessible and backwards compatible with existing setup and standards.

Ultimately, no browser is perfect. Opera has great features but it's still not the average user's "only" browser. FF is miles ahead in that race.
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i m downloading the new fireofx now and then downloading opera
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