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Old December 5, 2006, 03:32 PM
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Default Your teams for the last two ODIs

OK, time for experiment.

First of all, Tushar should be let go, I have nothing against him, but there is no point hanging around the dressing room. Based on his recent form in NCL, Rana should be drafted in and should play the last two ODIs in place of Rafique (I have nothing against Rafique either, but, as I said, time for experiment).

Bashar should be benched for the last two ODIs, let Farhad Reza have some game, and, more importantly, let SN lead the team.

Mash and Rajib both deserve breaks. So, Mash should rest in the 4th ODI, Rajib in 5th ODI, and this way let Rasel play in the last two matches.
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Old December 5, 2006, 03:34 PM
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Yap, Tushar shud get a chance,Piolt,sumon, mashrafi needs a break.
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Old December 5, 2006, 03:36 PM
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Well, Bashar should be permanently dropped from OD team. I would like to see at least one more young pacer. Rasel is very good, but I think we will need back up in that department, due to frequent injuries.
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Old December 5, 2006, 03:37 PM
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Oh, I meant Tushar should be let go from the squad, go play in NCL or for the A-team. I don't see a place for him in the national team middle order at this point.
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Old December 5, 2006, 03:38 PM
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i agree with most of your changes, actually; now that we've won the series, we might as well experiment a bit. the most important change should be to hand over the arm band to nafees, just to get a taste of what he has to offer in this version of the game.

i also think it's a pretty good time for bashar to go on a vacation, or get injured; i would love for nafees to lead the team against scotland as well. besides, bashar doesn't really need match practice: if he's going to shine, he's going to shine anyways, with all the experience that he has.

as for tushar, i think he should try earning a living off the ncl, unless of course he scores five back-to-back double tons there, or something to that effect, coupled with a couple of great A team tours in england in the winter, south africa any time of the year and australia, including at least a triple in any one of those matches.

you can tell how much i dislike the concept of tushar being in the squad under his current form.
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Old December 5, 2006, 03:40 PM
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Omio : Yup not from me..Tushar should be sent back to NCL.
TheWatched : you pulled out great points.
Rana should come in for Rafique.. not that Rafiques not performing.. He needs rest.
Farhad Reza can come in for Bashar..Shahriar Nafees to lead.
Heres my team for the last 2 ODIS
Shahriar Nafees
Mehrab Hossain JR
Aftab Ahmed
Sakibul Hasan
Farhad Reza
Mohammad Ashraful
Manjarul Islam Rana
Mushfiqur Rahim
Mashrafe Mortaza
Abdur Razzak
Shahadat Hossain
Mashrafe Mortaza
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I dont go with Resting mash and rajib a match..I mean mash needs to get wickets..for good ranking..and Shahadat should continue his flow.They are young lads..They just played 3 matches..after a month rest..why more rest?
Instead Rafique deserves a rest..He should stay fit for the WC.
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Old December 5, 2006, 03:41 PM
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I don't think Bashar will sit. He needs some match practice and don't have runs under his belt. However, I would like to see Rahim comes in for a game or two. Mashrafee should sit and rest whatever injury he is carrying and Rasel can get a chance.
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Old December 5, 2006, 03:44 PM
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Heres my team for the last 2 ODIS
Shahriar Nafees
Mehrab Hossain JR
Aftab Ahmed
Sakibul Hasan
Farhad Reza
Mohammad Ashraful
Manjarul Islam Rana
Mushfiqur Rahim
Mashrafe Mortaza
Abdur Razzak
Shahadat Hossain
Mashrafe Mortaza
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I dont go with Resting mash and rajib a match..I mean mash needs to get wickets..for good ranking..and Shahadat should continue his flow.They are young lads..They just played 3 matches..after a month rest..why more rest?
Instead Rafique deserves a rest..He should stay fit for the WC.
I don't think Zimbabwe will let us play with 12 players. Bechara ra 11 jon khellei parena, 12 jon khelle ki korbe?
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Old December 5, 2006, 03:45 PM
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Omio : Yup not from me..Tushar should be sent back to NCL.
TheWatched : you pulled out great points.
Rana should come in for Rafique.. not that Rafiques not performing.. He needs rest.
Farhad Reza can come in for Bashar..Shahriar Nafees to lead.
Heres my team for the last 2 ODIS
Shahriar Nafees
Mehrab Hossain JR
Aftab Ahmed
Sakibul Hasan
Farhad Reza
Mohammad Ashraful
Manjarul Islam Rana
Mushfiqur Rahim
Mashrafe Mortaza
Abdur Razzak
Shahadat Hossain
Mashrafe Mortaza
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I dont go with Resting mash and rajib a match..I mean mash needs to get wickets..for good ranking..and Shahadat should continue his flow.They are young lads..They just played 3 matches..after a month rest..why more rest?
Instead Rafique deserves a rest..He should stay fit for the WC.
I don't think zimbo will agree with you and let mash play twice or be a 12th man and 11th man too.
I like the team but i think they need to try one of the pacers (who ever is getting lots of wkts) from NCL. Nazmul/sharif/shajada...
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Old December 5, 2006, 03:46 PM
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Good to see so many people think that rana need to get back in squad

I actually agree with ALL the changes Watcher suggested.

The quality of determination is hard to find in our team, and Rana and Rajin are two who has plenty of it. so, sooner or latter, they will come back.
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Old December 5, 2006, 03:51 PM
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LOL bangali.. kisu sare na :P
Kheyal kori nai bhai gon..
Cut the 2nd Mashrafe..just a clone.
Sadi : Mash didnt looked injured..at all..and he was playing because he was 100% fit.
So I really think he should play..i think many people will agree with me on that.
3 game and rest for a game..will just ruin his form.
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Old December 5, 2006, 03:55 PM
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mirpur will be fast track so we will need more pacers. I am not sure rusell will be up to the task.
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Old December 5, 2006, 04:04 PM
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mirpur will be fast track so we will need more pacers. I am not sure rusell will be up to the task.
Actually medium pacers do better on fast tracks. If Mirpur is not as flat as other wickets in the country, Rasel can give Zimbos hell with his swings. Moreover, it should be very clear by now that Zimbos struggle a lot against left armers.

About Mushfiq, I would love to see him back in the team, but his current form with bat simply can't justify a recall.
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Old December 5, 2006, 04:24 PM
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About Mushfiq, I would love to see him back in the team, but his current form with bat simply can't justify a recall.
As much as I was a Mushfiq fan, I tend to agree with you that with his current form, you cannot justify his recall. Also I think its not a good idea to bring a off-form talent to the national team. We have seen enough of those saga ... when selectors tried to force the issue by slectiong off-form talent.
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Old December 5, 2006, 04:42 PM
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No point of taking a chance for a 3-2 series win. Zims are very determined and they will take advantage of anything, today they almost won.
But once 4-0, lets give Rana and Rajin a place in the team. They deserve a recall.
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Old December 5, 2006, 04:50 PM
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IMO, No radical change. One or two change in the playing XI.

I want to include

- Shafaq
- Rasel

for one match each in place of Mashrafee and Shahadat . No change is required in the top order.

Mushfiq should play at least one ODI. If Farhad is drafted in, he should replace one of the two pacer.
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Old December 5, 2006, 05:38 PM
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For the people who wants to see conservative selections for the last two ODIs- the series is dead, we have nothing else to gain from it other than the fact that we now have the best opportunity to test our reserve bench.

If we still can't win matches against Zimbabwe without Mashrafe, Bashar, and Rafique, we actually have gained nothing from this series.
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I have to agree with TheWatcher with one change to his comment. We have been winning in ODIs inspite of Bashar, so now let's see what we do without him. My radical premise is this - Bashar and some others out of the ODI team for good. He must of course be in and lead the Test team. I think we have enough ODI depth to not need to have Bashar's confidence building presence as a necessity. Isn't it about time the team grew up and learn to perform with someone else at the helm?

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Old December 5, 2006, 06:28 PM
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We must play replace Pilot with Mushfiq Rahim for the last two matches. Bashar can also go and let SN to do the captaincy for the last 2 matches.
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Old December 5, 2006, 06:29 PM
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If we still can't win matches against Zimbabwe without Mashrafe, Bashar, and Rafique, we actually have gained nothing from this series.
that's very well said. I second you totally.

Bashar will probably not be benched. Mashrafee and Rafique has the best chances of being rested. And I also doubt the selection panel would draft anyone in the squad ; they might simply make changes from the 14 member squad that they already have. But ideally, if anyone has to be drafted in, it has to be Mushfiqur Rahim, in place of Mashud. Yes he is not in form, but the only justification i can give you for draftin him in is that he is the supposed one to take Mashud's spot after he retires. Is there a second candidate nearby ? Dhiman ? I havent seen anything such. So why not let Rahim get a match or two when there actually is a legitimate reason for Mashud to rest. And although I agree with TheWatcher about Tushar, but he is more or less set to play in the next two ODIs.

So, In a perfect world, this is how my preferred playing XI would look like, atleast for the next match :

S Nafees (captain)
Mehrab jnr
Aftab
Saqib
Tushar / Rana (he wud then drop down, coming in after Ash and Reza)
Ashraful
F Reza
M Rahim (wk)
Razzak
Rasel
Shahadat

Maybe the batting looks a bit prolonged with a shrunk bowling lineup, but Mehrab, Ashraful and Aftab can all have a go if needed.
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agree with watcher's first post, rubu's post, and zunaid's post...rana should be given a go and rafiq rested.
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My team:

S Nafees
Forhad (forhad may be successful as Shane Watson is for Australia and we would have more options in bowling, I know Mehrab did well but we must try different options and Mehrab can play the last ODI and alsoa gainst Scotland)
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Masud
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Enamul or Rana(if Rana he would bat at No8)
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Old December 5, 2006, 08:46 PM
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You're wrong. There was no month rest for BD players after the Champion's Trophy. They played in the corporate cricket league and then the NCL. They probably did not even have a week's rest as they were training for this series. So, just because they did not play any international matches, does not mean they were resting!Get your facts together buddy.

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Omio : Yup not from me..Tushar should be sent back to NCL.
TheWatched : you pulled out great points.
Rana should come in for Rafique.. not that Rafiques not performing.. He needs rest.
Farhad Reza can come in for Bashar..Shahriar Nafees to lead.
Heres my team for the last 2 ODIS
Shahriar Nafees
Mehrab Hossain JR
Aftab Ahmed
Sakibul Hasan
Farhad Reza
Mohammad Ashraful
Manjarul Islam Rana
Mushfiqur Rahim
Mashrafe Mortaza
Abdur Razzak
Shahadat Hossain
Mashrafe Mortaza
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I dont go with Resting mash and rajib a match..I mean mash needs to get wickets..for good ranking..and Shahadat should continue his flow.They are young lads..They just played 3 matches..after a month rest..why more rest?
Instead Rafique deserves a rest..He should stay fit for the WC.
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Old December 5, 2006, 09:21 PM
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guys where is enamul hoque junior..

enamul er dekhi kono khobor e nai.. enamul ke ektu chance deya dorkar..one-day te.. rafique er pore to shei e ache...i meant after rafique is retired.. hes the one to come in... besides.. ranar cheye onek bhalo bowling kore shei...
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I don't think we need to give break to any one from this squad. We need to drop couple of players- Bashar and Masud. These are old junk! Trust me Bashar lost the touch for ODI, he is too slow and Masud- thank you for serving us for years In ODI's.

There is no point of being complacent by winning this series, this opposition is nothing but a parar team. We need to show complete dominance by white washing them by a good mergin. There is no rest or break. If we can beat this team by a good mergin then we can expect a good show against the big guns.

If we have to give rest then if anyone feels out of sorts then give Mash a rest and not Shahadat. They need to play more to learn.

People here think that we have done great so you guys are thinking about giving players break but my message is -No rest. Drop Bashar and Masud from ODI team and play the best eleven for the rest of the ODIs. And crash the Zombies.
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