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Old April 30, 2016, 08:53 PM
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I know PLENTY of people in "Desi meetings" and even family members..

"bhalo hoise"

"uchit shikha hoise"

"tumi gay hoye ghurba aar.."

While I agree with iDumb, but come'on let's for a second pretend the hatarade perpetuated by so called educated mainstream masses.

BC != reflect majority or the masses. Just because we have tolerant intellectuals here, does not for a second reflect an iota about the loathing and vengeful, bigoted bloodthirsty mainstream people.

I hope we never stop speaking up for what we think is right and not give up to fear. If we are scared to speak up than they win.
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Old April 30, 2016, 09:15 PM
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I agree with Bonya Ahmed who was a victim of the last year's attack by these sub-human coward crimnals. I hold the government responsible for NOT to be able to ensure security and safety to the citizens of the land. Gay or straight, all are people of Bangladesh, and it is NOT a crime to be gay, a person's sexual orientation/preference is his/her personal business. The government should be able to provide the fundamental security to it's people and locate the criminals and execute them. Otherwise it is a complete failure on the Government's part. And I expect a lot more than this from the current government. All these sick crimes and vile actions and in the process the victims feeling helpless go against the fundamental concept and ideas by the founding leader of our country, Sheikh Mujibur Rahman (RIP).

Bangladesh needs to have clear laws (not just written/published but implemented) that no one can mock or ridicule the most important stems of one's religious faith, I.e. Allah and the prophet (PBUH) of Islam, the gods and goddesses of Hinduism, Jesus Christ(PBUH) and Mother Mary(PBUH) of Christianity, Gautama Sidharta Buddha of Buddhism and all the Bangladeshi Tribal groups' religious gods, goddesses and deities. And also all these people's religious books and symbols, and the fundamental rights of all atheists and agnostics, gay, bi, transgender and straight, that is if Bangladesh is truly a People's Republic. There should be strict law that one has to respect another fellow man's religion and his/her religious belief. Or else GTFO or get hard labour imprisonment. This is the least I expect from the current government.

I expect the same respect for one's faith and sensitivity and protection for one's religious symbols/holy books from countries like Denmark and France. Otherwise what a shame!

At last rest in peace Nikhil Joardar, Tanay Majumdar and Mannan. My prayers will always be with you and your families.
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Old April 30, 2016, 10:12 PM
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Good post BK. While what you wrote some may argue would go against "freedom of speech" or "free thinking" (sometimes cheap thinking), I think it is necessary to have laws implented not to mock or ridicule one's belief system no matter what it is. THat is one part of a solution. Burning the Quran in act of "freedom of expression" is not really a solution.
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Old April 30, 2016, 10:38 PM
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I know PLENTY of people in "Desi meetings" and even family members..

"bhalo hoise"

"uchit shikha hoise"

"tumi gay hoye ghurba aar.."


BC != reflect majority or the masses. J.
That is not true that BC does not represent a sample of general population. This website attracts cricket fans .... that should not bring in a group of "tolerant intellectuals" outliers :p

While I am not defending anyone, everything needs to be said in context and you have to understand people's culture, background, education level before you make conclusions.

Not everyone has to accept homosexuality openly. Gay people can equally go protest in front of marriage court not to let straight people get married - no one is stopping them.

Now talking about bangali families... let's put aside this "progressive" movement talk and let's focus on the classic one.. love marriage.

In the past, majority of people in conservative families didn't approve love marriage for their children. you asked any parents they would prefer to choose their son/daughter in law.

Sometimes there are extreme cases where let's say a pakistani father killed his own daughter due to "shame" because she had premarital sex/love etc. Those make news because they are extremely rare. While reading the news, many may say things like "proud dad" but the fact is almost 100% of the time if such thing happened in their own family, there wouldn't be murders... norm is eventual acceptance. So you have to go by how people adapt to changes, what their actions are and not necessarily what they say momentarily. Therefore, I don't think it is scientific to make opinions regarding general population from internet comments or coffee house temporary comments.

Most of you are not privy to this perhaps... But majority of people talk s*** about Muslims, minorities. There are both palpable and covert racism, phobias. But people don't admit that. Now is it a crime to have those feelings against muslims or minorities? I don't think so. But is it a problem when some act on it? yes.

You can not stop people from having negative feelings toward another group. It has been there thousands of years ago.. and it will be there thousands of years from now. That is human nature.

But laws, orders, education, all is necessary so people can live peacefully.
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Old May 1, 2016, 12:59 AM
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To clear the confusion on my mind. Tonmoy.Dhaka are you Gay bro?

Just was asking as you tend to seem like someone who likes to fight for Gay rights? Also, the question you asked me.. can you ask them to yourself? are you bi-sexual or Homo bro?
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Old May 1, 2016, 07:07 AM
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I usually know when to stop responding and I thought I must stop replying to you, however just for fun and some clarification for the other posters I will make this one exception..

My friends and family would attest that I am equally vocal about minority rights, womens rights and animal rights.
I am only Gay if you think Lincoln was black for his anti slavery stance, or Peter Singer was a woman for speaking for women's rights. At the end of the day, only the strong can ensure the rights of the weak . Strong being the majority and weak being the minority.

Secondly, it is the job of the scholars to clarify Islam's stance on the recent terrorism since the terrorists are using the name of islam to commit the violence. Since this is a cricket lovers forum so let me give an example with cricket. Papon not to long ago mentioned that Bangladesh is actually a 5th ranked team in ODI's. ICC straight away clarified their position (please note: I realise it is a very bad example but hope you got the point).

Lastly, if you do not think you can ever sleep with a man (not only because it is a sin but because that attraction would never exist) than how do you claim that it is a choice?
You have asked me a question whether I am Gay or biasexual, not only that you said it had to be one. I have answered that I am neither, but when it's your turn why are you avoiding the question? Does the rule or question not apply to you also? Like you said if I have to be gay or bisexual, can you answer this for yourself, what are you. Based on your opinion your either Gay or Bisexual, can you answer this instead of writing BS to avoid answering the question? You asked me I answered, Now it's your turn to answer.
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Old May 1, 2016, 08:15 AM
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Old May 1, 2016, 07:25 PM
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Thank you dear Orpheus. I wholly agree with you.

And I also realized that I forgot to add to the list of people that the Bangladesh government MUST protect are all the minorities including the Shi'as, Ahmadiyas, Ispahanies, Ismailias, Aga-khanis and also the thousands of Biharis that call Bangladesh their HOME and genuinely show aligience to Bangladesh.

All BC member should be extremely careful NOT to call names or project any insult to any minority groups or make them feel uncomfortable in any way, whether it may be religious minority or minority due to one's sexual orientation, as we must not forget that we have BC members from all walks of life. If one wants to express their personal ideas and beliefs on how a society should be structured, please take it somewhere else or open a website on your own. First and foremost this is a website for cricket fans of BD. We cannot get carried away. There is a Forget Cricket section here for a reason, to take a break from cricket, NOT to spread HATE-MONGERING. Otherwise we will humbly request the moderators and admins to take stern action.
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Old May 1, 2016, 08:01 PM
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Thank you dear Orpheus. I wholly agree with you.

And I also realized that I forgot to add to the list of people that the Bangladesh government MUST protect are all the minorities including the Shi'as, Ahmadiyas, Ispahanies, Ismailias, Aga-khanis and also the thousands of Biharis that call Bangladesh their HOME and genuinely show aligience to Bangladesh.

All BC member should be extremely careful NOT to call names or project any insult to any minority groups or make them feel uncomfortable in any way, whether it may be religious minority or minority due to one's sexual orientation, as we must not forget that we have BC members from all walks of life. If one wants to express their personal ideas and beliefs on how a society should be structured, please take it somewhere else or open a website on your own. First and foremost this is a website for cricket fans of BD. We cannot get carried away. There is a Forget Cricket section here for a reason, to take a break from cricket, NOT to spread HATE-MONGERING. Otherwise we will humbly request the moderators and admins to take stern action.
About the bolded part, I think that is a lesson you teach to 5 year old kids... I would think that is common sense but unfortunately it is not!! Our society is prejudiced...

In other news from the Desh, there was a massive fire at Kawran Bazar today.. Lots of small time entrepreneurs (khudro babshayee) suffered humongous losses... hope Government provides them some kind of support...
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Singapore becoming a deshi terroist hub. Extremely worrying
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Old May 3, 2016, 10:28 AM
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Singapore becoming a deshi terroist hub. Extremely worrying
http://m.prothom-alo.com/internation...ি-আটক

It took more than 30 thousand innocent lives in Pakistan before the Pakistanis realized that that the only way to deal with these people is by using force. You cannot reason with these people.
God knows how many more innocent lives it will take in Bangladesh before our masses realize the same thing. First they were targeting Atheists, than came the bloggers followed by Cultural personalities. If we do not speak up now, very soon it will be you...

There is a famous Poem and I am sure most of you have read it, but no harm in mentioning it here again.

First they came for the communists,
and I did not speak out—
because I was not a communist;

Then they came for the socialists,
and I did not speak out—
because I was not a socialist;

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I did not speak out—
because I was not a trade unionist;

Then they came for the Jews,
and I did not speak out—
because I was not a Jew;

Then they came for me—
and there was no one left to speak out for me.

Pastor Martin Niemöller, written about the Nazi regime.
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Old May 12, 2016, 02:17 PM
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Nizami finally faced justice..
however this post is concerning Turkey. The country that Kemal Ataturk helped develop and now it is again in the path of destruction thanks to Erdogan. Muslim brotherhood should not mean supporting murderers and thugs like the Jammatis.
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These are some of the comments by the readers from the paper...that I found funny. Funny as good, nothing wrong with them comments.

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পাঠকের মন্তব্য (১৬)

সোলায়মান
ওগুলোকে বাংলাদেশে পাঠানোর দরকার নেই।

Mohammad Nurul Amin
প্রমান সাপেক্ষে এই সকল জঙ্গিদেরকে পাবলিকলি শাস্তি দেওয়া হোক।

RUPOM.....
কিছুদিন পুর্বেও সিঙ্গাপুর সরকার অনেক গুলি সন্দেহ ভাজন জঙ্গিকে আটক করে দেশে পাঠাল সারকার তাদের জিজ্ঞাসাবাদ করে ছেড়ে দিল। এদেরও হয়ত ছেরে দিবে। তারপর খুজবে জঙ্গি কোথায়?

Chowdhury
এদের সিঙ্গাপুরেই শাস্তি দেওয়া হউক।

Abdullah Al Mamun
এরের আগেও সিঙ্গাপুরেই আটক হয়েছিল বাংলাদেশি এবার আবার!! বাংলাদেশি মানুষকে জঙ্গি হিসাবে প্রমান করে পশ্চিমারা তো আমাদের দেশে ধুঁকতে চাচ্ছে না!!!

joy
এদের কারণে বিদেশে বাংলাদেশী সম্পর্কে একটা নেতিবাচক ধারণা তৈরী হচ্ছে।

Henry Gomes
ভয়ঙ্কর

Henry Gomes
বাংলাদেশকে খুবই সতর্ক থাকতে হবে

bibhu ranjon
বিদেশীরা যতটা চিন্তিত আমাদের নিয়ে, আমরা ততটাই উদাসীন। আর দেশের ১২টা বাজতেছে।

K. Hasan
এদের কারণে না আবার সিঙ্গাপুরের শ্রম বাজারটা নষ্ট হয় ...

a h m farhad
বিষয়টি সর্প্সকাতর বিধায় সত্যিকারের যাচাই বাছাই করে দোষিদের বিরুদ্বে কঠোর শাস্তির ব্যবস্তা করা দরকার।তবে জঙ্গিগোষ্ঠীর নাম দিয়ে যেন দাড়ি ওয়ালা ও টুপিওয়ালা ধর্মপরায়ন লোকদের হয়রানী করা না হয় । জঙ্গিবাদ ও আবিচার দুইটাই ঘৃণিত ।

Shakib Khan
জঙ্গীরা বেঁচে থাকলে সাধারন মানুষ বাঁচতে পারবে না, জঙ্গীরা দেশ, দশের ও ইসলামের দুশমন। জঙ্গীদের সম্পদ বাজেয়াপ্ত করা হোক। জঙ্গীদের নিকৃষ্ট ভাবে দমন করা হোক, কোন অনুকম্পা নয়। জিরো টলারেন্স।

নাম প্রকাশে অনিচ্ছুক
ওদেশের সরকার তাদের বিচার সম্পন্ন করুক। বাঙালিরা অখুশি হবেনা।

Mohammad Nurul Amin
তাদের চেহারার মধ্যেও কেমন ভয়ঙ্কর একটা লক্ষণ দেখা যায়

hussain
কি হচ্ছে ?

নাম প্রকাশে অনিচ্ছুক
সুখে থাকলে ভুতে কিলায়।

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They are British Citizen and a britain problem. Not a Bangladeshi problem. And we hope we don't have to apologize for having a Bangladeshi background
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Aro agei kora uchit chilo but a good step forward
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Old May 20, 2016, 10:31 AM
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This will not stop till we stop all kinds of wahabi funds from funding these extremist teaching...

Today it was the turn of a doctor who happens to love Baul music.

http://bangla.bdnews24.com/samagraba...16/05/20/----2
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