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Old April 3, 2008, 03:22 PM
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I wonder how many of these are alive and living in BD. In 37 years, many may have already got call the from the angle of death.
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That raises another question, who is more ignorant? Them or .....?
Lol, where did that ignorance thing come from? I think the topic being discussed is explained in your post with your respected view. Suddenly it seemed to lose the flow and went into this ignorant thingy...

Anyway, I wanted to listen to some of the views on :
"If the govt engages people (AL said young and honest) in upazilla election to take up roles to build the nation - it may have 2 directions: Firstly, good people are attracted to front politics; secondly: good people are chosen rather than elected into those roles. Any comments??"

I agree with your points of "importance of Bhaat in regular Bangladeshi families outside the captial". This, however, is a different topic of discussion and I'm happy to continue on that as well. I just wanted to know if my initial topic could be discussed if anyone had missed that in the first place. Cheers!

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Old April 3, 2008, 09:52 PM
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Lol, where did that ignorance thing come from? I think the topic being discussed is explained in your post with your respected view. Suddenly it seemed to lose the flow and went into this ignorant thingy...

Anyway, I wanted to listen to some of the views on :
"If the govt engages people (AL said young and honest) in upazilla election to take up roles to build the nation - it may have 2 directions: Firstly, good people are attracted to front politics; secondly: good people are chosen rather than elected into those roles. Any comments??"

I agree with your points of "importance of Bhaat in regular Bangladeshi families outside the captial". This, however, is a different topic of discussion and I'm happy to continue on that as well. I just wanted to know if my initial topic could be discussed if anyone had missed that in the first place. Cheers!
The definition of good and bad is very subjective. So, i do not understand what he is trying to say. And if the so called good politicians want to leave the party, clearly they are not dedicated enough and to come out and call them "good" i believe is a political mistake.
I think he is just trying to pile the pressure up on the CTG
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Old April 4, 2008, 09:37 AM
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Anyway, I wanted to listen to some of the views on :
"If the govt engages people (AL said young and honest) in upazilla election to take up roles to build the nation - it may have 2 directions: Firstly, good people are attracted to front politics; secondly: good people are chosen rather than elected into those roles. Any comments??"
Well, I can speak for my self. I didn't see any point to discuss about the news that you reprinted for the following reason.

1. The assumption is the term 'Good' is well defined and well understood by all. Its not clear what is their definition of 'good politician'. Are they following same criteria they are following so far? Lets look at the track record so far
a) Amu is Good...... Jalil is Bad
b) Maj. (ret) Hahiz is Good ..... Brig General Hannan Shah is Bad
c) Abdul Mannan Bhuiyan is Good ... Moudud is Bad
d) Major Syed Iskandar is good .... Khaleda Zia is Bad
f) Saifur Rahman is good .... and his son is Bad
g) Abdur Razzak is good .... and Hasina is Bad
f) Ershad (with is mouth shut) is good .... Ershad (with his mouth open) is Bad
g) Md Shahjahan is good .... Khondokar Delwar Hossain is Bad
f). barrister Moinul Hossain is good and ....Anwar Hussain Monju is Bad

if thats the definition of goodness and badness, then I am confused here as I see nothing but all Bad here.

2. The assumption is "young party workers" will remain good even when they get the taste of power and money. Its a big assumption here. In my opinion there is no evidence that in politics young age means they will be less corrupted. Actually its opposite, when they go to power they are more aggressive, ruthless, have no remorse and ethical standard.
Lets see the track record in Bangladesh politics....
a) Sheik Mujub ----> Sheik Hasina ( the next generation)
b) Ziaur Rahman ----> Tarek Zia (the next generation and 40 something)
c) Delwar Hossain ---> His son Pabon ( 40 or below)
d) Saifur Rahman --> His son now in Jail
f) Mr Thamba, Tarak's rignt hand man is alos 40 something
g) Panku Babor ... he was pretty young before he came to lime light
f) All those young leaders that serrounded Tarek Zia and had a life of their time.

3. "The issue of changing boat based on opportunity in politics" does not give me a good feeling about their goodness. I can respect a person's when I see their conviction even though I may not agree with their principle. On the other hand I am not going to trust a person who have no conviction at all, or who changes his beliefs based on outside pressure or opportunity. Now if someone is looking for real good young people in Politics then they should look completely new blood (from the common people), bring new good people in the politics.

4. The concept of stealing and recycling leaders from other parties doesn't look so noble to me. Looks like another "gooth badha" politics as usual. Plus I don't see why interim government should do something like this, i.r trying to break existing parties and create a new one. Its one thing to try to get rid of known corrupt politicians from ethe parties, its another thing trying to break existing parties and trying to help defecting young workers from the party by pressure and greed.

5. The Assumption is: that will make our future politics much better. To me, it doen't make any better. The other stuff Gen Moin & Co. is doing may make things better, but not this one.

Unless I have a clear understanding about these issues, I see pointless to further discuss about this issue. may be other people also see similar way. That’s why may be nobody cared to talk about this issue.

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No 3, 4, & 5 sound agreeable and these are all good points. It's also true that we need to know more to feel good or bad about the whole thing. We discussed a lot in this forum on various issues relevant to this one and I was actually interested to know how others see this trend in BD. Thanks for your comments.
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Post 8842 is a class of its own.

Definitely the theme line is:

Separate violence from politics.
Intermingle wise and educated leadership.
Free law enforcing agencies and bureaucracy from Political influence.
Thats engulfs the possibility of blackmarketing dishonest bunch getting involved in policy making.

Ironically I am listening to Sabina singing "protiti shishur chokhe jedin abar khushir chaad uthbe heshe, shedin purno hobe shopno amaar shonar desh Bangladeshe" while making this post.
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a war plane has just been crushed in ghotail.........pilot rescued.....
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a war plane has just been crushed in ghotail.........pilot rescued.....
The pilot is reported dead at CMH later.
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Old April 9, 2008, 02:02 PM
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a war plane has just been crushed in ghotail.........pilot rescued.....
A war plane!!! u think so.....The planes in WW1 was even better....

On a sad note we mourn the death of a fearless pilot of BAF who died yesterday.
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Old April 11, 2008, 07:04 AM
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The govt pushed for Women Development Policy, which mainly ensures :

1) Women would have equal right to earned property; however, the Shariah Law on inheritance suggests that a woman should inherit only half of what her brother would get.

2) Reserving one-third of parliamentary seats for women and their direct election.

3) Special attention with budgetary allocations for communication, sanitation, rest room, day-care centre and health care facilities at places where a large number of women and girls are engaged in work.

4) Quota for women in entry level jobs in both government and private organisations to be increased.

5) Short term measures i.e., raising maternity leave from 4 mths to 5 months, steps to stop the suffering of women working abroad etc.

The Global Gender Gap Index 2007 ranks Bangladesh 100 out of 128 countries in terms of gender equality. [www.weforum.org/PDF/GENDERGAP/GGG07_BANGLADESH.PDF]

In this context the following development could be turned as a political issue.

Dhaka, April 11 (bdnews24.com)—Thousands of angry activists of an Islamist outfit fought a fierce battle with the police in the Baitul Mukarram Mosque area on Friday, leaving about 100 people injured.

Among the injured were four photographers who were on the scene to cover the clashes that raged for a second straight day over a so-called women's development policy, witnesses said.

The protesters alleged that the policy went against the principles of Islam.

The street battle with law enforcers started after Friday prayers as the protesters under the banner of the Anti-Quran Law Resistance Committee streamed out into the open through the northern gate of the national mosque to take out a procession.

Asked why it took the police so long to control the situation, Mokarram Hossain of the Shahbagh Police Control Room told bdnews24.com that the protesters had taken position inside the mosque compound.

"We were a bit tolerant but the protesters did not calm down," he said.

At a press conference, Islami Oikya Jote chairman Fazlul Haque Amini said the police had attacked them without provocation.

He claimed that more than 100 workers of the Islamist outfit had been injured in the clashes.

"We called a rally to drum up support for the anti-Quran rule, but the government is not fulfilling our demand," he added.

Amini threatened that the "fire ignited Friday would spread to every corner of the country".

Asked about mosaic stones taken off the mosque's wall, Amini said he was not aware of it.

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Just spotted this on the Al Jazeera Youtube channel:

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Fatal train crash in Bangladesh

At least 17 people die and 20 are injured when a train hits a packed bus in central Bangladesh, officials say. [BBC]
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Old April 29, 2008, 07:17 AM
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After Sidr, now Nargis.....

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Tue, Apr 29th, 2008 4:38 pm BdST


Dhaka, April 29 (bdnews24.com) – Cyclone Nargis over the southwest Bay of Bengal and adjoining southeast Bay remained practically stationary, according to a special weather bulletin issued Tuesday.

The cyclone storm was centred about 1200km southwest of Chittagong port, 1135km southwest of Cox's Bazar port and 1080km south-southwest of Mongla port at 6:00am Tuesday.

It is likely to intensify and move northwards, the Meteorological Department said in the bulletin.

The maximum sustained wind speed within 54km of the storm centre is about 62km per hour rising to 88km per hour in gusts or squalls.

The sea will remain rough over the north Bay and "very rough" near the cyclone centre.

Maritime ports of Chittagong, Cox's Bazar and Mongla have been asked to keep hoisted the distant warning signal 2, the bulletin said.

All fishing boats and trawlers over the north Bay have been asked to stay near the coast and proceed with caution until further notice.

bdnews24.com/su/ad/1625 hours
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Mon, Apr 28th, 2008 4:03 pm BdST

Dhaka, Apr 28 (bdnews24.com) – The deep depression over the southwest Bay of Bengal and adjoining southeast Bay moved slightly northwards, concentrated into a cyclonic storm "Nargis", a special weather bulletin issued early afternoon Monday said.

The depression was centred at 12 noon Monday about 1245 kms south west of Chittagong port, 1175 kms south west of Cox's Bazar port and 1130 kms south-southwest of Mongla Port. It is likely to intensity further and move in a northerly direction.

Maximum sustained wind speed within 54 kms of the storm centre is about 62 km per hour, rising to 88 km per hour in gusts/squalls. The sea will remain rough over the north Bay and very rough near the system centre.

Maritime ports of Chittagong, Cox's Bazar and Mongla have been asked to lower distant cautionary signal number 1 and hoist distant warning signal number 2 instead.

All fishing boats and trawlers plying in the north Bay and in deep sea have been asked to stay near the coast and proceed with caution until further order.

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Old May 6, 2008, 11:51 PM
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While the inflation has hit Bangladeshi poor very very hardly, i have never understood the penchanhe of a few to break and loot stuff whenever there is a protest. maybe some shoot on sight orders would help avoid such situations

Ctg RMG workers on pay-hike riot
50 vehicles damaged, shops looted
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Workers of three garment factories of Azim Group take to the street in Kalurghat BSCIC Industrial Area of Chittagong yesterday demanding an increase in their wages and allowances. Photo: STAR
Agitated workers of three garment factories yesterday went on the rampage and vandalised over 50 vehicles in Kalurghat BSCIC Industrial Area demanding an increase in their allowances.

Hundreds of workers of Orchid Sweater Ltd, Global Specialised Garments Ltd (unit-1) and Savar Sweater Ltd, all conglomerates of Azim Group, took to the street for an increase in their share of piece-rate on each garment product and breakfast allowance.

Witnesses said the unruly workers vandalised buses, trucks, private cars, microbuses, CNG-run auto-rickshaws, mugged commuters, looted a sweetmeat and a fruit shops, and damaged windowpanes of the oven division office of Azim Group.

The witnesses said law enforcers refrained from taking action during the rampage that lasted around five hours on the roads stretching from Kalurghat BSCIC Area to Bohaddarhat intersection.

A tripartite meeting between representatives of Bangladesh Garments Manufacturers and Exporters Association (BGMEA), Azim Group and the workers later took a decision in favour of the demands, bringing the situation under control.

Sources said yesterday's incident was a sequel to a strife and heated altercation between a section of the workers and management of the factories the previous afternoon over the same demands.

The workers alleged the management suddenly cut Tk 10 from Tk 34 of the piece-rate. They met the management on Monday and placed their demands, but the management refused to accept those, said the sources.

At one stage, the workers became angry and swooped on some officials and staffs of the three factories.

Following the incident, the management of Azim Group shut down the three units for indefinite period. When the workers found the factories closed yesterday morning, they went berserk.

A force from Chandgaon Police Station rushed to the scene but remained "inactive" during the agitation.

"I was astonished to see that the workers continued attacks on our factories in presence of a large number of cops," said Anup Kumar Das, general manager of Azim Group.
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9th perlament election on 3rd week of December 2008.....
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funny that I am the first one to report this...

NIZAMI IS BEHIND BARS ... FINALLY!

http://prothom-alo.com/index.news.de...hp?nid=MTYxMDU=
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Alhamdulillah !

Way to go ACC and the CTG ...
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funny that I am the first one to report this...

NIZAMI IS BEHIND BARS ... FINALLY!

http://prothom-alo.com/index.news.de...hp?nid=MTYxMDU=
So called Islamic party's leader is now "chor". People should now understand about the Islam of Jamatis. These Jamat leaders, to be honest, follows "Moududi", who is famous for his misinterpretion of Quran.

In 1992, when Jamat celebrated its Golden Jubilee, they again claimed that there is no difference Moududi and Jamat. What a palace intrigue against the religion of Islam and the existence of Bangladesh.
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Old May 19, 2008, 06:33 AM
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Nothing wrong with arresting corrupt politicians, but lets all hope that we dont end up with corrupt military replacing corrupt politicians. Throughout the world we have seen numerous instances when military goes after politicians with a mandate to remove corruption, but they end up being corrupt themselves. Lets pray that Bangladesh proves to be an exception in this regards....
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So called Islamic party's leader is now "chor". People should now understand about the Islam of Jamatis. .
While I am not a big fan of JI, lets not forget that he has been arrested on charges of, of corruption and has not been convicted of it yet....
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Workers of three garment factories of Azim Group take to the street in Kalurghat BSCIC Industrial Area of Chittagong yesterday demanding an increase in their wages and allowances. Photo: STAR



How old are these boys? Looks like they got out of a school or something?
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How old are these boys? Looks like they got out of a school or something?
Are you new to Bangladeshi michhils?
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No sir!! In December of 2006, right before the hand over I visited home. The going rate was 500 taka for the ones who could sit within 500 yards, 100 taka for there on. That was in BNP gatherings. For AL gathering there was 100 taka and shari/lungi reward.

By any standards, young boys weren't brought in truck loads for any demo or meetings. It was old, din mojur, bosti walas from dhaka and nearby places. Seems like we have degraded another notch. Way to go "Sromik oikko porishod".
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Dhaka, May 25 (bdnews24.com) – Senior Appellate Division judge MM Ruhul Amin will take up his post as the next chief justice from June 1, an official at the president's office said Sunday.


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