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Old January 13, 2007, 04:36 PM
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Default Ashraful and Aftab got disciplinary

Ash and Aftab both got disciplinary for breaking code of conduct.BCCB blame both had broken code of conduct of last month while they playing with Zim.
I think its very bad decision by BCCB
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Old January 13, 2007, 04:38 PM
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source? why do you think it's a bad decision? any word on what they did/said?

come on, man...you're a pretty seasoned poster. this is ordinary posting.
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Old January 13, 2007, 05:00 PM
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source? why do you think it's a bad decision? any word on what they did/said?

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They said that, S.Nafees got more opportunity with weak team rather than both of them.
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Old January 13, 2007, 05:06 PM
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you can get some more idea from here
http://www.prothom-alo.org/mcat.news...jA5MzU=&mid=OA==
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Old January 13, 2007, 05:11 PM
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I think BCB is over-reacting. I don't think it was such a big deal. Here is the link:

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Old January 13, 2007, 05:12 PM
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Old January 13, 2007, 05:26 PM
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I have read the quote in Carte Blanche's post where it says what each of them said. I see absolutely nothing wrong in what aftab or ashraful said. IN fact they both praised the fact SN is able to take full opportunity against the weak teams plus aftab even mentioned that SN's century was a great knock !!!!! That is sheer overreaction from the BCB. I dont think this is good for the team. This action of theirs might create an uncomfortable situation in the dressing room between the two players and SN. This is horrible and the timing couldnt be any worse, just before the world cup !!!!
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Old January 13, 2007, 05:36 PM
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they are looking for scapegoats as they have to punish Khaled Mashud for his "automatic choice" remark. I just cant believe they are making a big deal out of this all of a sudden.
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Old January 13, 2007, 05:51 PM
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It's simple. BCB is making this mock trial to justify the real trial of Khaled Mashud.
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Old January 13, 2007, 06:53 PM
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I think the senior players (especially Ashraful) are talking too much to the media lately. Some of the comments made by Aftab and Ash might have perceived the wrong way by the newbies. However, I think a verbal reprimind will be more appropiate in this case instead of any official punishment. As someone already said, this may cause some unease in the dressing room environment.
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Old January 13, 2007, 07:24 PM
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well this shouldn't create any tension in the dressing room. we need eleven men out there, not eleven kids, and the players should realize that if there have to be any hard feelings, they should be on CB, and not on nafees, because in all fairness the comments that ashraful (don't remember exactly what aftab had said, but i thought it was more mature than ash's comments) had made were simply idiotic, and if nothing, this punishment will hopefully make him think before he talks the next time, for a change.

having said that, i do think that the punishment on aftab was unnecessary, and the one on ash a bit too harsh (a reprimand would have sufficed, as pointed out by TheWatcher). if this was to make the decision against pilot halal, then i'd say it was pretty stupid; pilot's punishment doesn't require justification - he deserved it, albeit claiming that he hadn't said what came out in the newspapers, because ek haate to r tali baje na. when it comes to selection issues, players should simply keep their mouth shut, and this doesn't have to be a part of any kind of contract. besides, reporters earn a living by coloring things up, and i'm sure that the players know that pretty well.
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Old January 13, 2007, 11:34 PM
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This might put an end to interviews for them.
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Old January 14, 2007, 02:51 AM
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Whatever BCB did may have been too harsh, but you can't ignore the immaturity of Aftab and Ashraful in their take on Nafees. If nothing at all, at least they should learn that they shouldn't criticize fellow cricketers in front of media. If they had these problems, they should talk to the team management...which is the perfect spot for all these. In any case, I hope they understand that they need to grow up now...it's the sport for grownups.
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Old January 14, 2007, 03:42 AM
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I still done understand why some members are finding fault with what the duo said !!!! Infact If people read the bangla news that Carte Blanche has posted it shows clearly in point form what each of them said.

Let me start of with Aftab. He did nothing but praise the newer players and said they inspire him to perform better, praised SN's century as well and also mentioned that they are able to take advantage of the weaker sides which is all true. How is that saying something negative is beyond me.

Ashraful's comments are more arguable and shows his lack of sense but still it does not show that he was being demeaning to SN or any new player. He said that the newer players understand the game better and have played the weaker teams more in the beginning(this is the folly in his comment although it is true) but he also said that they have used that opportunity while he failed.

The problem in the dressing room would stem from SN's side and not from Aftab and Ashraful's side if there is some problem. Obviously from the actions of BCB it would seem to SN that the duo were trying to undermine his performance and this wont make him like them more now because he is human. It does not matter if you are a grown up or not if people say bad things about you and undermine you ( or if u think they are trying to) it is natural for you to feel upset with them. Both ashraful and aftab would also be in an awkward situation since BCB's action vindicate them of undermining SN's performance. Being professional does not mean you leave your heart behind everytime you go to play because they are human and emotions are bound to come into play. I strongly believe the timing of the actions couldnt have been worse as the WC is round the corner and a private verbal bashing should have been the order of the day instead of making it public and doing what the BCB has done. In fact this shows some lack of professionalism on BCB's part although I believe the cricket board has a wonderful professional structure in place now.
Given the fact that all three are very important to the bangladesh batting I think this makes it all the more worse, specially Aftab and SN are very pivotal for BD batting from my personal point of view. I just hope the players would talk it out among themselves and solve any misunderstanding that might have arose from this incident. I have hope for Aftab and SN talking it out and reconciling if they have any difference but from Ashraful's comments it seems like he is not very articulate and lacks sense or in other words less mature than the other two.

Moreover the pilot angle has not been mentioned anywhere in the report but are just conjecture from other members. I personally dont thing that makes any sense because what pilot did was extremely wrong and arrogant and deserved every bit of reprimanding he got. Infact I would have dropped him from the squad for the ZIM series just to make him understand that a place in the national team is not his father's property that it should be guaranteed for him.
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Old January 14, 2007, 03:56 AM
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Shahriyar: The way Aftab mentioned the fact that SN found the team in quite a better situation, and he's playing better...but he himself didn't find it in a good position, but he's playing well...all these can be described as "civilized khocha". And these aren't the nicest things for star players to say in public.
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Old January 14, 2007, 04:03 AM
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Imran what he is saying is the truth. The team SN came into is a much better team than the one which Aftab came into. I dont think anyone would disagree with that. But that is just one sentence from all his comments. I think if you look at all his comments then it seems to me at least that he is praising SN. Infact both of them accepted their failure to capitalize on the weaker oppositions. I think isolated the sentence might appear offensive but taking it with all the others makes it look different to me.
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Old January 14, 2007, 04:09 AM
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Shahriyar: It's true...agreed. I'm talking about its appropriateness. Anyway, not worth arguing about this anyway...what's done is done...I just expect the players to not comment like this in front of media...do it to the team management, where it'll make sense the most.
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Old January 14, 2007, 04:13 AM
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Imran I am not trying to make you see things my way We can differ in our opinions but I think this was uncalled for before the world cup. Emnitei i fear BD will not perform in WC erpor abar eishob controversy add hole aro kharap korbe i fear.
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Old January 14, 2007, 04:25 AM
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Imran I am not trying to make you see things my way We can differ in our opinions but I think this was uncalled for before the world cup. Emnitei i fear BD will not perform in WC erpor abar eishob controversy add hole aro kharap korbe i fear.
That's a valid concern.
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Old January 14, 2007, 06:25 AM
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It will put them a huge mental pressure..
BCB shouldnt do this just b4 WC..
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Old January 14, 2007, 10:45 AM
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Ashraful shala eto kotha bole ken ?? Oi shala to week oppositioner against a onek sujog paiche!!! Ektao kaje lagate parenai or foolish battinger jonno. Ashrafuler utchit Nafeeser pa dhua pani khaoa.
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Old January 14, 2007, 10:48 AM
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May be Ashraful shala is upset beacuse he has not been made vice captain of Bangladesh team after playing such a long long time as a below average batsman. Shala !
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I still done understand why some members are finding fault with what the duo said !!!! Infact If people read the bangla news that Carte Blanche has posted it shows clearly in point form what each of them said.
there was another thread on this a few weeks ago, which had a slightly more elaborate version of what they had said. on the other hand, the version that Carte Blanche posted has their words in point form, which obviously takes away a lot of it

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Let me start of with Aftab.
i didn't find anything wrong about his comments, judging from the contents of the previous thread (i can't find it atm).

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Ashraful's comments are more arguable and shows his lack of sense
once again, judging from the purano thread, it sounded a lot like ash was defending himself, and trying to make SN's performances look ordinary. nevertheless, a reprimand would have been enough - there was no need for a fine or anything.

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it was actually mentioned somewhere in the first third, but was raised by the reporter himself. shalar reporterder r kaam nai. :p
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Default Disciplinary action taken against Ashraful, Mashud & Aftab

Mashud fined 50% & Ashraful 15% of an odi match fee. Aftab is cautioned verbally as well as in written.

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Old January 16, 2007, 09:41 AM
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It's sad our players are still going to kindergarden. Why they don't appreciate the good and try to take the good side from fellowmates and give SOMETHING to the team, I believe Ash and Aftab did ok last few matches but we all have to wait till the World cup comes.
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