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Old February 12, 2007, 02:54 PM
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in other words, i don't wanna risk key players getting hurt/burned out playing the likes of bermuda, candada, burundi, east timor, and olympus mons 12th XI, just so some BC members can say "Bangaladesh sucks!!" in 13 different ways.
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Old February 12, 2007, 02:57 PM
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I don't think Mashrafee has ever played in caribean soil. So why sit him? He needs the experience of bowling there before the big matches come up. I would do a little experiment here and there but other than that, I will go with the full squad.

Three things to do experiment on:
1. Opener issue: Mehrab, Tamim or Rajin?
2. Third pacer issue: Tapash or Sharif. Whoever gets the chance should play atleast a match or two.
3. Keeper issue: If both keepers are selected, they should get a match each.
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Old February 12, 2007, 02:59 PM
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in other words, i don't wanna risk key players getting hurt/burned out playing the likes of bermuda, candada, burundi, east timor, and olympus mons 12th XI, just so some BC members can say "Bangaladesh sucks!!" in 13 different ways.
I don't really care about what some BC members will say after a win or defeat for that matter. I will be more concerned about our players getting used to caribean conditions so that when the time comes, they are fully prepared. One game or two shouldn't burn out a player two weeks before the world cup.
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Old February 12, 2007, 03:03 PM
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Not only I would bench Mashrafe but also rafiq and SN. I would allow Rasel, Shahadat to open and Taposh to be the third pacer. Depending on the 15 men roster I would open with Tamim and Rajin or Mehrab Jr. and tamim or whoever is included as an opener.

This only for the Tri-series and to answer some questions. If Pilot and Mushi both are included then both play.

As for the warmup matches against NZ and Canada we go with the best 11.
Very much agree with you, only that SN should play in those matches as he still lacks in overseas experience. Also, if we are pairing him up with Tamim, it is important that we give them as many matches as possible to build a good understanding among them. If Tamim fails in those matches and we have to bring Rajin in warm up matches, Rajin should be ok as he is already experienced in West Indian condition and also with openning with SN.

Ashraful should be also rested for those matches as he does not do well against "choto dols".

So my team would be-

SN
Tamim (though I would prefer Rokon in his place, but that would be just a wishful thought)
Aftab
Mushfiq
Bashar
Sakib
Tushar/Farhad (whoever get selected. Hoping to see one of them keeping Mashud out of the squad)
Tapash
Razzak
Sharif/Rasel (whoever get selected)
Shahadat

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Old February 12, 2007, 03:38 PM
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There is no substitute for match practice and so our WC squad should play the tri-series.
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Old February 12, 2007, 03:55 PM
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I don't really care about what some BC members will say after a win or defeat for that matter. I will be more concerned about our players getting used to caribean conditions so that when the time comes, they are fully prepared. One game or two shouldn't burn out a player two weeks before the world cup.
yes, but what is the purpose of playing mashrafee...suppose he takes 10 bermuda wickets for no runs...what does that prove? the BC members will still bich and moan...

and then mash might get injured, then our WC is over.

for match practice mash can play against NZ...what are the other teams doing to practice. mash can bowl some in the nets to get a feel for the conditions against our own batsman. that will be a better indicator of conditions than bowling to a 300 pound bermuda all-rounder.
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Old February 12, 2007, 04:01 PM
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I think the main argument here is whether to play Mash-Rafique or try out two back up pacers in this series. I am in support of trying out two back up pacers.

Mash is a smart bowler and it should not take more than two matches (warm up matches against NZ, Sco) for him to adjust his line and length. Condition in West Indies is not that different from that is in Bangladesh anyway. For Rafique, his old bones should be tortured as less as possible.

I want to try out back up pacers mainly because Shahadat's position in the WC playing eleven may not be as certain as many of you think.West Indian pitches have slowed down a lot in last few years, Shahadat's short deliveries may not be that effective here. So I really want to see what Tapash or Sharif (or Rasel) has to offer here.
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Old February 12, 2007, 05:43 PM
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from watching rajib bowl at home against zimbabwe in december, he was not banging it in as much as he used to.

so i think he's problems were with his line, and of course wides and no balls.
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Old February 12, 2007, 07:08 PM
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Rajib should think straight...he got good stuff under his sleeve...no doubt about that...Rajin definitely should be in the squad...,opening with Nafees..but I was really hoping Tamim would be there....flying ball all around the field...about Ash...keep him in the squad, although I am not a big fan of him anymore.....true he hasn't score for a long time... but I can feel it..call it a third sense or whatever....his big score day is coming up soon...let see....if not plz plz drop him after WC...
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Old February 12, 2007, 08:56 PM
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Does this tri series really exist? According to Cricinfo the matches are Bangladesh vs Bermuda and Bermuda vs Canada. There is no Bangladesh vs Canada. Anyone got any clue?
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Old February 12, 2007, 09:11 PM
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Does this tri series really exist? According to Cricinfo the matches are Bangladesh vs Bermuda and Bermuda vs Canada. There is no Bangladesh vs Canada. Anyone got any clue?
who knows, who cares...ridiculous series.

ICC wants us to play 2nd tier, we have and we didn't complain (much)

now they want our stars to get hurt playing worthless games against worthless teams.

has the ICC ever heard of mutuality or shared interest?

bunch of douche bags!
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Old February 13, 2007, 12:19 AM
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For me squad is...
Nafees
Tamim
Mushfiq
Aftab
Saqib
Habibul
Rajin
Mashrafe
Rafique
Razzaq
Rajib

Same as world cup 11.
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Old February 13, 2007, 09:10 AM
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Does this tri series really exist? According to Cricinfo the matches are Bangladesh vs Bermuda and Bermuda vs Canada. There is no Bangladesh vs Canada.
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Old February 13, 2007, 01:47 PM
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as far as i know..they are not playing in the same venues.



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So AF, you basically want our two striking bowlers and our two main spinners to take a break and miss the opportunity of practising at the very venues they gonna be playing during the wc??

C'mon man...expected much better from you...
you are certainly not a rookie...

may be we should cotton wrap all our top 15 before the world cup in case they do sustain any unwanted injuries...keep them at any safe deposit in zurich and pray to Nike (The Goddess of Victory) that they just gonna pop up during the match and win the games for us?
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Old February 13, 2007, 02:31 PM
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For me squad is...
Nafees
Tamim
Mushfiq
Aftab
Saqib
Habibul
Rajin
Mashrafe
Rafique
Razzaq
Rajib

Same as world cup 11.
All my players were selected!!!
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Old February 14, 2007, 04:03 AM
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Guys... by saying same venues..i didnt mean the same exact venues we are going to play the world cup games..

i meant playing in the west indian conditions... let it be Bermuda, Bahamas or T&T, it is still in the west indian grounds...and more exposure to those environments would certainly help the players to adjust themselves and find about the nature and conditions of the playing environments...

I reckon this is the best way to boost the confidence of our best players before the cup begins specially when we are playing against some minor teams...

imagine Mash,Rajib, Rafiq and Razzak playing against the minnows and doing well...
imagine they have better idea of the conditions and the ground...

and now imagine taking that self believe and high morals to the real game against the tougher opponents and bringing glory for the country...

All the players should be tried out during the tri nations...
but for the official warm up games... only the possible main 11 should play...
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Old February 14, 2007, 11:27 AM
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Does this series got official status?
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I think the tri series will be in Antigua.
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This tour should be given utmost attention...Yeah, its against the likes of Canada and Bermuda but Its the best chance for some of our players to hit themselves back to form and get used to the pitch conditions. Yet, it seems almost non-existant.
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Old February 16, 2007, 07:16 PM
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What I am afraid is that our boys may take Bermuda team too lightly, especially from the looks of the Bermudian players.

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Old February 16, 2007, 08:27 PM
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What I am afraid is that our boys may take Bermuda team too lightly, especially from the looks of the Bermudian players.

Yeah, theyre scary alright!
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Old February 16, 2007, 09:10 PM
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Yeah, theyre scary alright!
See, that's the attitude I am afraid of. They may look like potato bags, but they can play cricket.
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Old February 16, 2007, 09:38 PM
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See, that's the attitude I am afraid of. They may look like potato bags, but they can play cricket.
Thats where youre going wrong.....I agreed with you upto your point about complacency, but they cannot play good cricket. Theyre freaking terrible! They did beat Scotland recently, which takes me back to complacency.......
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