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Old February 13, 2007, 12:38 PM
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Default Media and public reactions after Excluding Pilot

The exclusion of Pilot from WC team has raised questions among the ex-players and captains of BD cricket people like Lipu, Akram etc have expressed their opinions against the decision to discard Pilot. TV channels have started to question the decision also… and more interestingly, an SMS voting on the issue during Channel-I night time bulletin showed results of more than 70% voters standing against the decision of excluding Pilot.

It appears that majority cricket followers in Bangladesh want Pilot in the team. Lipu even mentioned in TV interview that some sort of ‘underground-work’ might have been done to keep Pilot out.
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Old February 13, 2007, 12:47 PM
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sorry, i missed this. which thread has the full team?

i think pilot should be in the squad, but only as back-up keeper.
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Old February 13, 2007, 12:47 PM
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Problem with our ex-cricketers is that they have to think everything in terms of politics. I saw a comment from Lipu that pretty much means Bashar should have backed up his senior teammate in the team, now he has no one to back himself (Bashar) incase he face the axe in future.

Pilot would not be a happy camper to be around if the management wanted to keep him in the squad as a back up keeper, it is best for the moral of the team that he was not taken at all.

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Old February 13, 2007, 12:49 PM
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Bashar should have backed up his senior teammate in the team, now he has no one to back himself (Bashar) incase he face the axe in future.
hehe...that's just ridiculous
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Old February 13, 2007, 01:02 PM
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I am really concerned at the reaction, now if selectors are forced to take Mashud, that will make a big mess and will destroy team combination and morale.
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Old February 13, 2007, 01:11 PM
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Very first point we should consider that we are looking for a 'Batsman-WK' instaed of a 'WK-Batsman'. A team like BD definitely needs an extra Batsman who can contribute with some valuable runs. From that point of veiw, I don't see anything wrong on Mushi's inclusion over Pilot. I would say, this was a brave decision by the selectors.

On the other hand, Imotion being a big problem for BD over the years........ have you remembered how Nolok won against Rajiv or Salma over Muhin? I don't want to go in a debate if imotion is good or bad but, I think it's really time to look into the performances. Honestly, can anyone tell me there was a single good innings by Pilot in last six months........ODI to 20/20, twenty-twenty to domstic league?? If you want to consider your team based on experiences instead of performances, you can find many more other names that can be included in the list.

Like or don't like the team, like Dav says, we all should back-up our team once it is declared. If there is any question about inclusion of Pilot in the team, let him to play few good innings (perhaps couple of centuries) and door will be open again for him in the national squad (as BD has a good tradition of calling back oldies if they perform). But for the moment, Pilot has nothing to say with his bat. Better take it as a challenge and get back to national team with performance (although WC is missed).
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Old February 13, 2007, 01:16 PM
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This was to be expected. Unfortunate! Such comments and insinuations are unhelpful.I hope the selectors stay firm and back themselves. I dont agree with JO's inclusion but I would back the selectors to make the final decision and hope for the best. I would say this set of selectors have done a fair job through out their tenure to justify some confidence in them.
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Old February 13, 2007, 01:16 PM
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Pilot has been a part of our ODI side for a long long time and this sort of reaction is normal. We just got used to Pilot too much. I hope selectors remain strong and go on.
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Old February 13, 2007, 01:17 PM
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.....if selectors are forced to take Mashud, that will make a big mess and will destroy team combination and morale.

I remember the andolon for including Nannu or Javed before in BD team and there were good reasons. Is there any valid reason now why selectors should take Pilot in the squad? I know your concern is like mine........the big mouth of Lipu, Akram or the percentage of SMS..............perhaps that's the reason why democracy is not good sometimes :p
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Old February 13, 2007, 01:19 PM
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Here's some more reactions

Akram Khan
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"It was simply out of my imagination. How they dropped a wicketkeeper like Pilot (Khaled Mashud) for such a big tournament because as a keeper he is still unparallel. I think everybody can understand how important a keeper's role is in the team," said the burly batsman about his long associate in the national side.

"I am really confused why Javed (Omar) is there and Tushar Imran is out of the side. The selectors have just contradicted their previous policy by selecting this World Cup team,"
Raquibul

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"I'm disappointed by the exclusion of (Khaled) Mashud. Two wicketkeepers could have been there if they have real faith in Mushfiqur Rahim's batting. They simply contradicted by taking (Javed) Omar and (Rajin) Saleh considering their experience when they ignored Mashud," .

"Tamim is the right choice because he is a very exciting batsman and has the ability to capitalise on the early fielding restrictions to pull off surprise against any big team. But I think it made no sense to include four openers in the team. The selectors actually failed to fulfil the expectations of everybody,"
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"You just tell me why the team think-tank gave Mushfiqur Rahim a promotion to the top-order in the recently concluded Zimbabwe tour? I think it was to establish the young stumper a place in the team. When you have players like Sakib (Al Hasan) and (Habibul) Bashar in the middle-order, then it made no sense to promote Mushfiqur in the batting order,"
"Javed cannot be considered in the one-day side if we want to win the match. I think Bashar should have taken a strong stand in favour of Mashud because it is not unlikely to see him exit the same way,"
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"It is an open secret that the understanding between Pilot (Mashud) and the selectors is not good. I don't find any single reason behind the exclusion of Pilot. Actually what selectors did with the team selections for last one or two years was totally different with the World Cup team," said the former all-rounder.

"Tushar has not got due chances in the side as well,"
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Old February 13, 2007, 01:22 PM
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Very first point we should consider that we are looking for a 'Batsman-WK' instaed of a 'WK-Batsman'.
I totally disagree!! Dropping a catch of Jaya or Tendulkar would be enough for a lose.
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Old February 13, 2007, 01:28 PM
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I totally disagree!! Dropping a catch of Jaya or Tendulkar would be enough for a lose.
I agree...........but my friend, the catch that can be dropped by Mushfiq, can also be dropped by Pilot. If you are talking about a regulation catch, anybody can miss. If you are talking about a tough catch or stamping, perhaps Pilot is ahead of Mushfiq. But didn't you see Pilot missing a sitter?? Come on, Mushfiq is in the side and let's wish good for him - both as a keeper and with the bat. That would be good for our team.
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Old February 13, 2007, 01:41 PM
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It will prove to be an expensive mistake not selecting pitot. mushfiq is no sangakara or dhoni or gili. How much better is he than pilot as a batsman?

I hope ultimately they include pilot and tushar imran in the team. There should be no place of exercising personal conflicts in national interests.
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Old February 13, 2007, 01:53 PM
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True..



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This was to be expected. Unfortunate! Such comments and insinuations are unhelpful.I hope the selectors stay firm and back themselves. I dont agree with JO's inclusion but I would back the selectors to make the final decision and hope for the best. I would say this set of selectors have done a fair job through out their tenure to justify some confidence in them.
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Old February 13, 2007, 02:04 PM
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You cannot change the team anymore unless there are injuries. That is the ICC rule for this tournament. So, unless Golla trips over a pile of cow dung and gets hurt Pilot is out of WC. So just wait and hope the selected ones perform.
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Old February 13, 2007, 02:07 PM
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lol, can't help but laugh.
Raqibul: Selectors contradicted about players experience on Mushfiq and Rajin/JO.

Same case can be made for you on supporting the selectors Tamim selection. When they agree with you they are great. When they don't they are brainless???

Durjoy is a politician. The less said the better it is.

Lipu: Wow!! Salute sir!! What logic of captain's siding with the veteran so that he can be supported when the time comes, lol.

I was puzzled by Akram's comment. He knows, and still plays the game. Does he think we can win a match with a 230 total against Ind???
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Old February 13, 2007, 02:22 PM
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I am tottaly agree with u ,SAR2005.We are the nation of show our imition time to time,,,and it is not the time to show our imotion.We illl play in the biggest event in world cricket,but 1 thing i m not convinced that,WHY selectors select mushfiq just observing his performance in 1 or 2 matches,and those matches against minnows Zimbabwe.Pilot is not constant,but he is well contributer in Bangladesh team for 10 to 12 years.So only this 2 performances by mushfiq is well over then 10 to 12 years cotributions???How is that possible????

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Old February 13, 2007, 02:29 PM
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What our cricket legends are yet to learn is professionalism and controlling personal biases. Their bias towards Pilot due to their long cricketing career is understandable...but they shouldn't press it so much and disturb the selectors from their their job.
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Old February 13, 2007, 02:38 PM
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The most, biased, sappy and outrageous piece of reporting came from some Mostafa Mamun at BDNews24. He accused Faruk and co. of having personal vendetta against Pilot and also asked for Faruk's resignation for orchestrating his exclusion. Ofcourse all without a single shred of evidence.

I really dont care what the former captains or our esteemed journalists opine in this issue. This is by far the most astute decision made by our selection committee. Pilot has not only been an underperformer in the national team, he has failed to score any runs in the domestic matches. His contributions to our cricket are hugely appreciated and I am sure he will bounce back stronger than ever. But let that be through his performances and not through power politics.
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Old February 13, 2007, 03:03 PM
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I wonder why there is so much hype about Pilot's keeping quality, he used to often drop regulation catches or miss stumping chances before he got kicked out the team.
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Old February 13, 2007, 03:06 PM
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Sigh! Tahsin, a lot of people feel like you. But look at Australia and the Australian selectors. Steve Waugh, who contributed so much to Aussie cricket, played such an important part in raising the team to the status that it is today, was dropped from the ODI team after a very similar loss of form.

Pilot got his chances. He failed to take them. Mushfiq got his chances. He took them as well as can be expected. That is the bottomline.

The comparison to JO is not on. At least JO went to the domestic circuit and scored centuries and 50s and made a case for himself.

Lets be rational.


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I am tottaly agree with u ,SAR2005.We are the nation of show our imition time to time,,,and it is not the time to show our imotion.We illl play in the biggest event in world cricket,but 1 thing i m not convinced that,WHY selectors select mushfiq just observing his performance in 1 or 2 matches,and those matches against minnows Zimbabwe.Pilot is not constant,but he is well contributer in Bangladesh team for 10 to 12 years.So only this 2 performances by mushfiq is well over then 10 to 12 years cotributions???How is that possible????

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Pilot should have been included. People are saying he is not performing. Just check the scorecard when BD played last time against a stonger team.

I am not saying we do not need Mushfique. He can play as a middle order batsman. But there is no harm if Pilot was included. Mushfique is yet to play against quality bowling line up. We will definitly miss Pilot's experience.
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Old February 13, 2007, 03:14 PM
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Battingwise, Mushfiq can't do any worse than Pilot and who cares about facing quality opposition when it comes to keeping? The same bowler of your side is going to bowl and stronger teams don't give harder edges.
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Old February 13, 2007, 03:28 PM
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But zobair,WE r not a side like australia.Australia have so many good players and if steve wagh is not played another quality batsman will arrive and ill score hundreads 1 after another.frnd,how can u say mushfiqur rahim will surely perform with his bat???he just score some runs against the weaker team like zimbabwe.He also had a poor domestic league.then what will u say when he missed some catches and then don'tr score some runs in the WC????
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