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Old March 8, 2007, 09:17 AM
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you missed his point. srilanka set us a target of 303. bangladesh got off to a bad start. they were 78/4 in the 19th over. they were never in the chase. they still managed 265 with ashraful scoring 18 off 43 (he opened), sn scoring 5 off 22, bashar scoring a golden duck, and pilot playing (he had a sr. of 100 atleast for the 8 runs he scored).

i'd say we have a fair chance of putting up 300 against the indian bowling attack, given we have tamim instead of ashraful opening with nafees, bashar and ashraful in a better form, mushfiqur rahim, and mashrafe's batting abilities on flat pitches (which i think will extend to sporting wickets as well, if he bats straighter)
I think you missed the point. When the runs truly mattered, we failed to score and wilted under pressure. And when the game virtually over, we managed to scrap some useless runs because by then our opposition couldn't be bothered to save few runs.
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Old March 8, 2007, 01:45 PM
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I think you missed the point. When the runs truly mattered, we failed to score and wilted under pressure. And when the game virtually over, we managed to scrap some useless runs because by then our opposition couldn't be bothered to save few runs.
meh....i still stick to my point. we had an early set back, which we overcame with an impressive recovery. posting 260+ against the lankans after losing half of your middle order is not too shabby at all. i used that game to show that we wont need an apocalypse to post 300 against india/lanka
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Old March 8, 2007, 04:19 PM
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we have to bowl really well to win, at least better than we bat. our bowling can win us games, probably not so much our batting.
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Old March 8, 2007, 04:37 PM
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we have to bowl really well to win, at least better than we bat. our bowling can win us games, probably not so much our batting.
You r 100% correct.
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Old March 8, 2007, 04:46 PM
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Toss winning is a big key for the game. Since India has a strong batting line up, I am sure they will put us in to bat first, if they win the toss.

If we dont score 270+, there is JUST NO WAY we can win against the Current Indian Batting line up. Dravid, Sehwag, Dhoni, Tendulkar are not kids..

If we win the toss and can restrict them below 250, We have a match - since Indian bowling line up isnt as strong as the World top nations.

So toss will say a lot.
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Old March 8, 2007, 04:49 PM
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Toss winning is a big key for the game. Since India has a strong batting line up, I am sure they will put us in to bat first, if they win the toss.

If we dont score 270+, there is JUST NO WAY we can win against the Current Indian Batting line up. Dravid, Sehwag, Dhoni, Tendulkar are not kids..

If we win the toss and can restrict them below 250, We have a match - since Indian bowling line up isnt as strong as the World top nations.

So toss will say a lot.
Excellent point and I totally agree. And that way rasel-mash combo can be at their best.
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Old March 8, 2007, 04:54 PM
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Excellent point and I totally agree. And that way rasel-mash combo can be at their best.
Yes Rasel and Mash must play. Shahadat too.

I'd pick Rasel over Tapash Anyday. Rasel's line is lot better than Tapash and he also uses his brain over muscle, which can only be helpful. We have seen tapash getting beat up many times.

And, Given we win the toss, Bashar has to be best in his captaincy, to use the right bowlers at right moments - even if we bowl 6 or 7 bowlers including Rajin - Asraful.

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Old March 8, 2007, 05:03 PM
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The realistic run chase for Bangladesh would be 220-230 range, beyond that it is tough to achieve.
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Old March 8, 2007, 05:28 PM
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Bangladesh will win the match against IND, only if all the stars line up in a st. line on that day (I mean night)! Finger crossed!
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Old March 8, 2007, 05:40 PM
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Worry? For what? We have Tamim, Aftab and Ash to shake and SN, Bashar, Skaib and Rahim to bake. And then Mashrafee, Rafiq, Razzzak and Rasel will have the real feast.

Don't worry ... be happy (for now) before the game starts!!!!! tar porey... porer chinta porey kora jabey. Otherwise pretty soon you guys will have heart attack !!!!
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Old March 8, 2007, 07:15 PM
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Worry? For what? We have Tamim, Aftab and Ash to shake and SN, Bashar, Skaib and Rahim to bake. And then Mashrafee, Rafiq, Razzzak and Rasel will have the real feast.!!!!
You forgot to add saqib as the 5th bowler........anyway, with this 5 bowler, do you think BD can feast on IND batsmen?
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Old March 8, 2007, 07:18 PM
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No worries against India.
There are no set plans, we will play according to thier merit.
We will ask them lift up thier performance and match it with ours.
Shoulders must be heavier on thier side with a burden of a billion.
We have nothing to loose.
We are there to win.
Loosing is not an option.
Second round is the destination.
Whoever comes along the way will get demolished.
Forget the names and the faces, they are all the same to me.
If they score 400, we will make 401 to win.
If we score 150, we will restrict them to 149.

We will win the match Inshallah.
This is our time.

We have done it, we can do it again.
Dravid who?
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Old March 8, 2007, 07:26 PM
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Bowling                      O      M      R      W
Mashrafe Mortaza            10      0     60      0 (3w)
Hasibul Hossain              6      0     53      0
Mushfiqur Rahman             6      0     52      0 (1w)
Khaled Mahmud               10      0     62      3
Mohammad Rafique            10      1     63      1 (1w)
Aftab Ahmed                  2      0     16      0
Rajin Saleh                  6      0     38      1 (2w)
With This team we can chase 300+ score from india or Sri Lanka
If Banglacricket XI faces that bowling attack, we can also score 300+
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Old March 8, 2007, 07:27 PM
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we also have to have attacking fielding and putting pressure on the batting side, there were times we are very relaxed and give away runs easily. fielding has always played a major role in many of our wins against bigger teams
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Our best chance to win is bowl India out for 230-40 as it's within our run chase capability. If we bat first, we must post at least 260+ and that's gonna be very difficult if not impossible. We must field really well to hold India back.
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Old March 8, 2007, 09:04 PM
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No worries against India.
There are no set plans, we will play according to thier merit.
We will ask them lift up thier performance and match it with ours.
Shoulders must be heavier on thier side with a burden of a billion.
We have nothing to loose.
We are there to win.
Loosing is not an option.
Second round is the destination.
Whoever comes along the way will get demolished.
Forget the names and the faces, they are all the same to me.
If they score 400, we will make 401 to win.
If we score 150, we will restrict them to 149.

We will win the match Inshallah.
This is our time.

We have done it, we can do it again.
Dravid who?
wow!...................
Liked this one: "Forget the names and the faces, they are all the same to me." (Do you mean if it is a day-night match and there is a loadshading?)
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India has the best batting line up in the world. period. But all this is on PAPER. They have to show it on the field. I have faith on our bowlers and fielders that we can restrict them but we need to field first except if it is not overcast or damp pitch.
doesnt matter, we will win, the vegetarians will pee their pants.!!!
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I think the BD-NZ match has done more good to India than BD.

The only way(I think) that BD can beat India is if India are complacent and BD does a counter attach (similar to the one against Aus in the first test in BD) and India is taken offgaurd

The BD-NZ match is an eye opener to India and I guess India will be vary and I predict a strong performance by India.
Very logical...hope not true though!
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Ground where BD will play against India on March17:
Queen's Park Oval, Trinidad

Let's see last 10 matches played here:
Queen's Park Oval, Port of Spain, Trinidad - ODIs - Team innings by innings list

Filter: most recent 10 matches.
Sort order: chronological.






-----------P W1 W2 T NR %1st %2nd R/6b R/6b1 R/6b2 Ave
unfiltered 50 21 25 0 4 45.7 54.3 4.69 4.75 4.63 29.44
--filtered 10 5 4 0 1 55.6 44.4 4.61 4.99 4.14 28.22


I Bat R/W Ov Li Tar R d/n Match
1 WI 231/8 50 50 - L day 4th ODI WI v SA 2004/05 [2244]
2 SA 232/4 46.5 50 232 W day

1 WI 138/7 20 20 - L day 5th ODI WI v SA 2004/05 [2245]
2 SA 141/3 19.1 20 139 W day

1 WI 263/6 50 50 - N day 6th ODI WI v Zim 2006 [2372]
2 Zim 72/2 12.1 30 191 N day

1 WI 266/8 50 50 - W day 7th ODI WI v Zim 2006 [2373]
2 Zim 162 49 50 267 L day

Zim 218/8 50 50 - W day ICC Dev 1 Can v Zim 2006 [2374]
2 Can 75 28.5 50 219 L day

1 Can 157/9 49 49 - L day ICC Dev 2 Ber v Can 2006 [2375]
2 Ber 153/7 42.3 44 150 W day

1 Zim 338/7 50 50 - W day ICC Dev 3 Ber v Zim 2006 [2376]
2 Ber 144/7 50 50 339 L day

1 Zim 259/7 50 50 - W day ICC Dev F Ber v Zim 2006 [2378]
2 Ber 176 47.2 50 260 L day

1 Ind 217/7 50 50 - L day 4th ODI WI v Ind 2006 [2381]
2 WI 218/4 44 50 218 W day

1 WI 255/6 50 50 - W day 5th ODI WI v Ind 2006 [2382]
2 Ind 236 48 50 256 L day

I = innings in match, Bat = batting team, R/W = runs/wickets, Ov = overs, Li = over limit, Tar = target to win in final innings, R = match result (W T D N L = won, tied, drawn, no result, lost), d/n = day or a day/night match.


If you emphasise on the matches of WI against (and also the others) SA/IND, it seems that the runs per innings are between 210 to 240, which is within the reach of our fight! I have also checked all other matches, which seems the same low scoring. The only match to produce over 300 was played between ZIM and Bermuda.

How did the Indian spinners do:
Harbhajan Singh bowled 20 (10+10 in 2 matches) at 4.7 Econ rate with 1 wicket.
RR Powar (offspiner) bowled 9 overs at 6.22 rate taking 2 wk
Yuvraj Singh bowled 2 overs at 5.00 rate taking 0 wk
V Sehwag bowled 10 overs at 2.90 rate taking 1 wk

It seems except for Sehwag, others did not do that great considering either the wckt or economy.
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We have a thought job....on 17th...to beat India!...look at the stat!!

Queen's Park Oval is generally thought of as the most picturesque of the old grounds in the West Indies. It is also the largest, accommodating 25,000 spectators in comfort. Home of the Queen's Park Cricket Club (QPCC) since 1896, it hosted the English teams touring the West Indies early in 1897 one under Lord Hawke, the other under Arthur Priestley. The capacity of the ground has made it most profitable (holding at least 7000 more than any other ground in the West Indies). The pavilion was erected in 1896 and by and large, remained unchanged until 1952 when it was replaced by a two-tiered structure. Natural turf was used in the early years for matches. However, damage cased by the mole-cricket in the soil rendered it impossible to prepare turf pitches. For forty years thereafter, a clay strip was used, over which matting was laid. The final Test played on matting was in 1954 when West Indies scored 681 for 8 and England 537 in reply. Within three months, the pitch had been removed and efforts were underway to replace the centre square with turf.
Queen's Park has been described as a classic ground with breathtaking backdrops, most notably, the northern hills. No section of the crowd captures the spirit of Trinidad than the 'Concrete Stand', renamed the Learie Constantine Stand. The fans are avid followers of the game, excitable and generally enjoy their cricket, led by a character affectionately known as 'Blue Food'.
While it has witnessed some dramatic performances by West Indies - it was here that England were blown away for 46 in 1994-95 - it has also staged some lows. In 1967-68 Garry Sobers's generous declaration allowed England to win by seven wickets, and in doing so level the series, while in 1976-77 India scored a then record 406 for 4 to beat Clive Lloyd's side.
Like most grounds in the region, it underwent a facelift ahead of the 2007 World Cup.
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we have to make dhoni bat first, then we could think about getting him out. I don even think he will have to bat at all.
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Most of those 265 runs came when the match was truly over, hence it's useless. The way we batted, if the target was 265 we would still fall at least 50 runs short.
truly ridiculous statement (target WAS NOT 265, it was 307 or 302)...if the game was played in pitch darkness, our bowlers could have limited SL to 10 runs in 50 overs...

but seriously, thats like saying, that if the Aussies knew RSA would chase down 434, they would have posted 440 to be safe. dumb, dumb, dumb.

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When was the last time we scored 250 batting first against a decent opposition? In fact, the question should be how many times? And everyone knows how many times we've successfully chased >=250.
not quite as pathetic, but equally irrelevant.

if we bat first, we are sure to lose to India...no one is doubting that. but given india's bowling attack, if our batsman don't lose their heads, then yes 300 is theoretically possible, tho 275 is a realistic top score. and 250 is something we EXPECT if we bat first no matter who the opposition, given a decent wicket.

our strategy is not to bat first...its to field first. and in this case we chased 265 against SL not long ago. any doubts about that number have been refuted in the first part of my post.

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There seem to be many worries against India. Theyve got WI down to 68/8!!
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There seem to be many worries against India. Theyve got WI down to 68/8!!
is there any live radio on this game?
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