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April 13, 2007, 03:07 PM
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Chinaman,
Sincerely, this is a little too much. Now we are having to mandate that people do not disrespect Bashar?? Do you not realize the unrealness of your request?
I can categorically list a few reasons why this is ridiculous
1. Many cricketers are called by nicks. Why would Bashar deserve a special treatment?
2. Bashar's nick is a reflection of the Fans' feelings about him. Just like Aftab is called "Boom Boom Aftab". Some may even think that hablu (or Habla, or HaBa) is an affectionate nick.
3. This forum has a stadium atmosphere to it and people say much worse things in a real stadium. Your attempt to regulate what to call Bashar and what not to call, would quash that to some extent.
4. Why would the Fans be so sensitive about the hurt feelings of a 34 year old man who leads (or is supposed to lead) a bunch of guys? Bashar should not even complain like a cry-baby. If anything, he should feel angry, not hurt. Go ahead and take your anger out on the field. Smash the opposition.
5. This is a slippery slope for moderators. As long as the conversation is not beyond PG-13, why do you want to regulate speech (or posts for that matter)?
Lastly, I will call your latest royal decree the Patriot Act of BC.
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April 13, 2007, 03:12 PM
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hey cricman you look like 50c do u know that?
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Thats not me, it's David Ortiz in Yankee cap, In the words of Derek Zoolander I am very very very good looking ... atleast alot better looking than Ortiz
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April 13, 2007, 03:16 PM
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Is it essential to respect Bashar? or is it sure calling him hablu (habla) desrespect to him?
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April 13, 2007, 03:21 PM
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Thats not me, it's David Ortiz in Yankee cap, In the words of Derek Zoolander I am very very very good looking ... atleast alot better looking than Ortiz
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Who is David Ortiz and why do you have his picture as your avatar. (u don't have to answer that I am just kidding)...
Good to know that unlike some BC member we also have a good looking one too...
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April 13, 2007, 03:27 PM
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i agree with chinaman. 
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April 13, 2007, 03:31 PM
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misconception: hablu = haba. This is not the case.
real thing: Habibul/habibur's shortened version is hablu.
I have a request too. (serious) This is a reminder to me and a reminder to you.
Please do not call Razzak. Call Abdur Razzak. That is his name and you will get brownie points and I will get a share of it too.
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April 13, 2007, 03:31 PM
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I thinks its only a moderator's personal opinion about Habibul's new nick name.Its better if Moderators make a poll about it.So they will able to find about the majority publics opinion.
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April 13, 2007, 03:38 PM
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Looks like Jonab Hibibul Bahsar son of mr bashar...
is getting special attention from dav
The team had trained at the beautiful 3Ws Oval at the University of the West Indies’ Cave Hill Campus on Thursday. Today they enjoyed a rest day although skipper Habibul Basher, Mushfiqur Rahim, Tamim Iqbal and Farhad Reza had individual training with coach Dav Whatmore.Others watched Ireland get beaten badly by the Australians on TV.
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April 13, 2007, 03:40 PM
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Respect is something comes from the heart. You can not force people respect someone. However, it's pretty shame that most of us don't realize that Bashar is the man who lead us to this level although his personal performances are under question. But I bet we could not reach this level if we had someone else (e.g x wicketkeeper) as our captain. Leadership is such a value that you don't realize when you posses it. YOu will know how valuable is it only when some stupid leader scrue your team up with internal politics.
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April 13, 2007, 03:46 PM
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Sauron
- Blame it to the weather and spice for making us a bit emotional and sensitive or perhaps a better way of expressing it, passionate by nature.
- Blame it to the authors, poets and the likes for using certain names to symbolize certain character traits.
- Blame it to me for making members aware of certain things at certain times to spoil the fun and not even revealing the expected results.
- Blame it to yourself for playing the spin doctor and hiding behind a freedom of speech most bangla 'naary' yet to hear about before calling their husbands publicly.
- Finally, blame it to Al Gore for making such a slippery internet.
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April 13, 2007, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by sar2005
Respect is something comes from the heart. You can not force people respect someone. However, it's pretty shame that most of us don't realize that Bashar is the man who lead us to this level although his personal performances are under question. But I bet we could not reach this level if we had someone else (e.g x wicketkeeper) as our captain. Leadership is such a value that you don't realize when you posses it. YOu will know how valuable is it only when some stupid leader scrue your team up with internal politics.
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agree 100%
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Sar,
A statement may seem to someone as disrepectful and to others not. Do you agree? Perception can be different. That's how comments get out of context and featured as offensive whereas, the person who commented may not mean that way.
Most of us are annoyed with HB's performances. That doesn't mean we are disrespecting him and calling names to hurt his feelings. If I said Hablu is a .... that would be calling names. Not when Hablu is replacing habibul bashar.
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April 13, 2007, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
misconception: hablu = haba. This is not the case.
real thing: Habibul/habibur's shortened version is hablu.
I have a request too. (serious) This is a reminder to me and a reminder to you.
Please do not call Razzak. Call Abdur Razzak. That is his name and you will get brownie points and I will get a share of it too.
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actually its better to calll him lalla. Heck even he doesnt mind it.:p
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April 13, 2007, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by sar2005
Respect is something comes from the heart. You can not force people respect someone. However, it's pretty shame that most of us don't realize that Bashar is the man who lead us to this level although his personal performances are under question. But I bet we could not reach this level if we had someone else (e.g x wicketkeeper) as our captain. Leadership is such a value that you don't realize when you posses it. YOu will know how valuable is it only when some stupid leader scrue your team up with internal politics.
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Well I have mixed feeling about your comments.
1. Yes you are right, You can not force people respect someone.
2. I think a true and confident leader leads by example, by his own contribution. Only a fragile leader try to suvive on other people's contribution.
3. Nobody is denying Bashar's past contribution to the team: as a player as well as a captain. He is one of the the best amoung the past captain. But time passes, team matures, demand increases, new options pops ups... and thus changes happens...new actors comes in ... the old retires. Thats the nature of the game....
4. I don't buy the logic that we should stick with mediore only because of the fear that we may end up much much worse captain who may screw up every thing we build so far. In life we need to make calculated risks, we need to know when to move on....unnecessary fear about unkoen future will take us no where but backward.
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April 13, 2007, 03:59 PM
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Bangladesh would still have these wins if bashar was not our captain. there is no comparison between the team in 2003 and 2007, we have a far better team now in batting, bowling and fielding.And if we had a better captain, who knows, Bd may just be knocking in the door in semis now.
Maybe I ll start to call him "habitual loser". I have no respect for him, he should have been kicked out of captaincy long ago, even his ODI batting was always in question. He is not a natural stroke player thats why he can score heavily in tests in quick time but struggles in ODI cricket because the fair few shots he has are blocked. To make it worse, he is out of form and he is putting the team in parole by coming at 3. Now if the team management has any sense and give importance to the remaining matches, they should drop bashar now. The team should always come before an individual.
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April 13, 2007, 04:04 PM
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Bangladesh would still have these wins if bashar was not our captain. there is no comparison between the team in 2003 and 2007, we have a far better team now in batting, bowling and fielding.And if we had a better captain, who knows, Bd may just be knocking in the door in semis now.
Maybe I ll start to call him "habitual loser". I have no respect for him, he should have been kicked out of captaincy long ago, even his ODI batting was always in question. He is not a natural stroke player thats why he can score heavily in tests in quick time but struggles in ODI cricket because the fair few shots he has are blocked. To make it worse, he is out of form and he is putting the team in parole by coming at 3. Now if the team management has any sense and give importance to the remaining matches, they should drop bashar now. The team should always come before an individual.
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too harsh. take it easy mate
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April 13, 2007, 04:06 PM
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He made 24 against the might Aussies.
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April 13, 2007, 04:08 PM
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Thats not me, it's David Ortiz in Yankee cap, In the words of Derek Zoolander I am very very very good looking ... atleast alot better looking than Ortiz
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"Zoolander goodlooking" ?? :p
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April 13, 2007, 04:09 PM
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I done see anything rong in calling Hablu coz Hablu is just the shortcut to Habibul Bashar. Hablu doesnt dis respect Habibul Bashar.
Chinaman. Can u please rethink about it. U r the mod which doesnt mean u cnt make mistakes in thinking. I dont mean to argue but i strngly feel nuthing rong in callin him Hablu. If we were callin him something like we say for Asrafool dats desrespct as the wrd fool is there but for Habibul Bashar we say Hablu which is infact the appropriate shortcut!!!!
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April 13, 2007, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BangladeshFan
Bangladesh would still have these wins if bashar was not our captain. there is no comparison between the team in 2003 and 2007, we have a far better team now in batting, bowling and fielding.And if we had a better captain, who knows, Bd may just be knocking in the door in semis now.
Maybe I ll start to call him "habitual loser". I have no respect for him, he should have been kicked out of captaincy long ago, even his ODI batting was always in question. He is not a natural stroke player thats why he can score heavily in tests in quick time but struggles in ODI cricket because the fair few shots he has are blocked. To make it worse, he is out of form and he is putting the team in parole by coming at 3. Now if the team management has any sense and give importance to the remaining matches, they should drop bashar now. The team should always come before an individual.
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I think you never played cricket or even if you had that was in PS2 or something. else you wouldn't have made such stupid comment and break that secret in front of every one.
No NTl player deserve any kick in any where. tone it down.
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April 13, 2007, 04:17 PM
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Thats not me, it's David Ortiz in Yankee cap, In the words of Derek Zoolander I am very very very good looking ... atleast alot better looking than Ortiz
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Really? Then go ahead post a picture of yours!
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April 13, 2007, 04:27 PM
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Sar,
A statement may seem to someone as disrepectful and to others not. Do you agree? Perception can be different. That's how comments get out of context and featured as offensive whereas, the person who commented may not mean that way.
Most of us are annoyed with HB's performances. That doesn't mean we are disrespecting him and calling names to hurt his feelings. If I said Hablu is a .... that would be calling names. Not when Hablu is replacing habibul bashar.
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My friend, you are clever enough to understand that by seeing different comments floating in all over BC. Yes, we are all annoyed. But we should not forget the limit. You don't need to be Eienstine to understand the tone right now growing in this forum. I hope, someone will put a stop!
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April 13, 2007, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by sar2005
My friend, you are clever enough to understand that by seeing different comments floating in all over BC. Yes, we are all annoyed. But we should not forget the limit. You don't need to be Eienstine to understand the tone right now growing in this forum. I hope, someone will put a stop!
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Please Bashar got his hablu name well before the WC. so don't try to mix these two 
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April 13, 2007, 04:39 PM
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yea... its just an adorer naam, but as long as it stays like that and does not evolve to sth more derogatory it shud be arrite....
but a good call (thread) anyways, just reminding all of us about the 'line' not to be crossed....
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