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Old September 21, 2003, 03:55 PM
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Default Things we need to fix before Eng Tour

We have a few weeks to go before the ENG tour starts. I think we have learnt a lot from this tour of Pakistan. We should short list a few things to work on and then train intensively to get it right before the next tour.

If we were to choose *only* three areas for exclusive concentration and training, what would it be?

I'd say its:

1) Find a stable opening batting pair with the use of practice matches (not just nets) among the BD players in a camp.

2) Intensively train Masri and Rafique to be strike bowlers, and train others to be *containment* bowlers.

3) Prepare the lower order for slog-overs.
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Old September 21, 2003, 05:10 PM
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4) we need to train someone as a captain.... PLS PLS PLS....
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Old September 21, 2003, 05:28 PM
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I think we have an adequate opening test combo: Hannan and Omar.

Three things on my list would be:

1. Enough experimentation, go for the result. We've experimented with batting orders, bowling orders, player selection (Hasibul, Rokon, Kabir etc.) The only one left to throw into the fray is Nafis, Anwar & Co. Enough experiments, let's put the best team on the ground. The last thing we need is to drag Asif Karim (Enamul Hoq and Aravinda Desilva (Nannu) out of semi-retirement and let them have a go in the team as well.

2. Need two teams. One for ODI (minus Syeve Waugh a.k.a. Habibul Bashar, Belim) and the regular test team. Not everyone is made out to be a ODI player at every stage of his career, yet they are worth their weight in test cricket (ask S.Waugh today, or Sunny Gavaskar about his first world Cup)

3. Need a captain- perhaphs two. One for each version of the game. These players need to be able to merit their inclusion in the squad as players alone. We don't have the luxury of the Brearley model.

[Edited on 21-9-2003 by reinausagi]
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Old September 21, 2003, 05:37 PM
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I am not sure abt the fact whether Bashar shud be made a specialist Test batsman or not... he played good in ODI's as well (not in this series, but **** happens) and I actually bill him to be the next BD batsman to score a century in ODI...

The call for two captains is a cool one... but we are in serious need of atleast one right now... and I dont think a young player shud be given that responsibilty... A senior player... dunno who though... I get a feeling the burden of captaincy will effect the performance of the player on whom it is given...

Maybe we can experiment a bit more... I say we make two BD teams (BD 1 and BD 2, not talking abt a national side and an A side) and make them play head on head... both ODI's and 5 day games... in dhaka... but not now... after the England tour... the players need rest... they derseve it... we can try the experimentation there... I know it cannot be compared with the real thing but its something worthwhile in my opinion....
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Old September 21, 2003, 06:10 PM
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Wow. Between the three posts above, I count at least seven imparitives/improvement list. Dav's gonna be a busy boy this year! And you guys are right: this has been non-stop cricket for a while. Even the fans are getting mentally exhausted.
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Old September 21, 2003, 06:53 PM
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Why does it become shoot when i try to write s-h-i-t??? is this some kind of language control on the board???
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Old September 21, 2003, 06:58 PM
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Yes, there is language control. As far as I know, Sh## become shoot. A$$ becomes bottom!! and the f word dissapears.
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Old September 21, 2003, 07:11 PM
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Default Yes it is!

I agree with reinausagi about the openers. Hannan and Golla are fine, and I would keep them for ODIs as well.

Piranha, I just don't know how you can give someone intensive training to be a strike bowler? I guess you can ask them to bowl aggressively, but often enough, putting batsmen under pressure like Rafiq did all series brings just as good results.

For ODIs,

1. The batsme have to learn to take more singles in the middle overs, which is much easier than teaching your bowlers to slog.
2. The bowlers have to learn to bowl in the slog overs. We always give away too many runs in the last ten overs. I think instead of just bowling whoever bowls well on the day, like the captains do now, (Mahmud bowled Rajin in the second ODI) we should just decide on who are slog over bowlers will be.
3. Our fielding has to be more consistent throughout the match. Poor fielding in the late overs probably cost us the 4th ODI. Saving an extra 20 runs in the field make a huge difference in ODIs.

For Tests,

I don't have three seperate things to concentrate on in particular, except to say that we should continue to work on what we did in Pakistan, which was to play by sessions and keep the pressure on the opposition whether you are batting, bowling or fielding.
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Old September 21, 2003, 08:00 PM
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By intensive training I meant having "well defined roles". When Bashar played the role of leading batsman and senior player, his belief, confidence and scores improved considerably. (He spoke about this in his interviews).
I suspect that the same principle can be applied bowlers as well.

Notice the lack of defined roles in our top order in ODIs. I think that this had a major impact on our failure.
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