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Old May 1, 2007, 12:10 AM
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Default Your World Cup Dream Team

My one is(according to batting order):

Mathew Hayden (AUS)
Adam Gilchrist (AUS)
Kevin Peiterson (ENG)
Mahela Jayawardene(captain) (SL)
Scott Styris (NZ)
Mohammad Ashraful (BAN)
Brad Hogg (AUS)
Shane Bond (NZ)
Muttiah Muralitharan (SL)
Lasith Malinga (SL)
Shaun Tait (AUS)

12th man: Michael Clarke (AUS)

I have left out Man of the tournament Glenn McGrath because I want a pace attack with 3 fast bowlers capable of bowling over 90 mph.
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Old May 1, 2007, 02:44 AM
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Old May 1, 2007, 08:54 AM
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Didnt we had the same thread just the other day??
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Old May 1, 2007, 09:00 AM
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Gayle (15 off his average, that includes 2 matches against minnows)
SNafees (almost 30 off his average, 6 outings minnow Bermuda, Ireland included; averaged 5.16)
Tendulkar (Averaged 3.5 against BD and SL where it mattered the most)
Younus Khan (averaged 12.33 against WI, IRL and Zim)
Habibul Bashar (13.12 average with a SR of 45.85, includes a 21 over match also)
Shewag (Averaged 25 against BD and SL, was suppose to score the first 200 in these batting paradises of WI - set max)
Dhoni (Double duck against SL and BD, netted him a total of zero)
Harbajan (No wickets in the WC)
Rana Naved (No Wickets in the WC)
Zaheer Khan (the man who made Tamim famous)
Agarkar (84/1 where it mattered)
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Shahadat Hossain (Tear away terror, managed to give 51 runs in 9 overs)
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Old May 1, 2007, 09:20 AM
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Gayle (15 off his average, that includes 2 matches against minnows)
SNafees (almost 30 off his average, 6 outings minnow Bermuda, Ireland included; averaged 5.16)
Tendullar (Averaged 3.5 against BD and SL where it mattered the most)
Younus Khan (averaged 12.33 against WI, IRL and Zim)
Habibul Bashar (13.12 average with a SR of 45.85, includes a 21 over match also)
Shewag (Averaged 25 against BD and SL, was suppose to score the first 200 in these batting paradises of WI - set max)
Dhoni (Double duck against SL and BD, netted him a total of zero)
Harbajan (No wickets in the WC)
Rana Naved (No Wickets in the WC)
Zaheer Khan (the man who made Tamim famous)
Agarkar (84/1 where it mattered)
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Shahadat Hossain (Tear away terror, managed to give 51 runs in 9 overs)
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Old May 1, 2007, 10:08 AM
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My lineup:

Hayden
Smith
Gilchrist
Ponting
Pieterson
Jayawardane
Styris
Muralitharan
Bond
Malinga
McGrath
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Old May 1, 2007, 11:33 AM
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Gayle (15 off his average, that includes 2 matches against minnows)
SNafees (almost 30 off his average, 6 outings minnow Bermuda, Ireland included; averaged 5.16)
Tendulkar (Averaged 3.5 against BD and SL where it mattered the most)
Younus Khan (averaged 12.33 against WI, IRL and Zim)
Habibul Bashar (13.12 average with a SR of 45.85, includes a 21 over match also)
Shewag (Averaged 25 against BD and SL, was suppose to score the first 200 in these batting paradises of WI - set max)
Dhoni (Double duck against SL and BD, netted him a total of zero)
Harbajan (No wickets in the WC)
Rana Naved (No Wickets in the WC)
Zaheer Khan (the man who made Tamim famous)
Agarkar (84/1 where it mattered)
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Shahadat Hossain (Tear away terror, managed to give 51 runs in 9 overs)

Are you trying to pull an S Rajesh?
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Shewag (Averaged 25 against BD and SL, was suppose to score the first 200 in these batting paradises of WI - set max)
He had an ok WC. He didnt have a good pre WC, but he had a good WC. You averaged the two lowest scores. And his second lowest score was 48. That should tell you something. He just failed against one team, if you take everybody who failed in one game, all the players in this WC should be there...
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Old May 1, 2007, 12:02 PM
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Bermuda'r against century korey birat bahadur hoiye gasey. It is not the two loswest scores my friend it is the opponent that I took account for. Dhoni, Tendulkar, Agarkar's stat was also Rajesh'ed in similar fashion.
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Old May 1, 2007, 05:05 PM
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not to be harsh but there were many much better than ash this tournament
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my dream team = Australian team.
No need to change any thing...
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Old May 1, 2007, 07:39 PM
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Bermuda'r against century korey birat bahadur hoiye gasey. It is not the two loswest scores my friend it is the opponent that I took account for. Dhoni, Tendulkar, Agarkar's stat was also Rajesh'ed in similar fashion.
Dude, are you trying to agree with me or disagree? Thats just what i said...

Anyhoo, there are others that failed both against a minnow team (that apparently doesnt deserve a place in your ratings) and a stronger one. Why does Sehwag beat them into the top XI? Hes the one who prevented the SL-India match from becoming even more of a one-sided contest...
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Old May 1, 2007, 07:47 PM
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not to be harsh but there were many much better than ash this tournament
Not being hard at all. He wouldnt even be in the top 20. But you have to take into account that this is a primarily Bangladeshi forum...Its only natural to be a little.....ambitous
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Old May 2, 2007, 08:23 AM
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I am trying to disagree with you, bro.

Shewag's inclusion was justified because the century against bermuda means nothing to me. Just like the others who scored against Bermuda. Since you didn't understand what I tried to say so here it is for you:

You said, "but he had a good WC. You averaged the two lowest scores"
Good world cup, lol. When it mattered he couldn't deliver. What good is in it? Secondly, I didn't take the two lowest scores. I just ignored score against bermuda cause nothing was on the line in that game and the opposition is some part time players. Giving ODI status to those games are similar to crime. I did that for other Indian players too. So I just didn't single out Shewag.

When you can't understand something it is better to reread the post before making a judgement.
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my dream team = Australian team.
No need to change any thing...
Perfect.
Period.
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I just ignored score against bermuda cause nothing was on the line in that game and the opposition is some part time players. Giving ODI status to those games are similar to crime.
TE, my comment is not exectly inline with the discussion you were having about Sehwag. But if you recall our match against Bermuda, you must think twice before neglecting them...remeber Mukuddem and Kevin and how many of the first 20 runs were scored off the bat and we were in the scare of a defeat....and the crime term sounds too harsh! We already have enough bitter experience of digesting such comments and we should not do the same for the other weaker teams.

Your statement that they are part-timers can be true; but they have some class players as well. Kevin has raw pace topping 95mph and Mukuddem is a decent swing bowler (did not play against India). Hemp has county experience. Minors and Cann have good technique with the ability to hit powerfully. They were the weakest team of the world cup. They had problems with experience and professonalism. But scoring against them is not something that you have to disregard completely.
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Old May 2, 2007, 09:08 AM
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Kevin has raw pace topping 95mph
And I drive 2008 model Ferrari in Dhaka.
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and Mukuddem is a decent swing bowler (did not play against India). Hemp has county experience. Minors and Cann have good technique with the ability to hit powerfully. They were the weakest team of the world cup. They had problems with experience and professonalism. But scoring against them is not something that you have to disregard completely.
I'd put my money on our U-19 team against them. The game against BD was under rain interruption several times. Had it not been a crucial one for India's qualification chances and one of the last games of the group stage, the game should have been cancelled and held the next day. I know I shouldn't undermine others and may be my statement is a little overboard I fully realise that, however, if XYZ has a problem of understanding me then a little overboard is necessary to prove my point.
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Baundule: Mukaddem wasn't playing for the match against India. He was banned for a few matches, and the Bangladesh match was his first after the return.
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Baundule: Mukaddem wasn't playing for the match against India. He was banned for a few matches, and the Bangladesh match was his first after the return.
Yeah! That explains his exclusion from the India match. I did not know about the ban and I wondered how they could leave such a bowler against india.
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Old May 2, 2007, 09:28 AM
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And I drive 2008 model Ferrari in Dhaka.
TE, my point was his pace and capability of swinging the ball both ways is an asset. He has problems with his line and length; but this can be easily improved by some good training. After some culturing, I am sure he can be an easy choice for teams like Bangladesh or India.

No comment about the overboard thing. You already explained it
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Old May 2, 2007, 10:20 AM
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You said, "but he had a good WC. You averaged the two lowest scores"
Good world cup, lol. When it mattered he couldn't deliver. What good is in it? Secondly, I didn't take the two lowest scores. I just ignored score against bermuda cause nothing was on the line in that game and the opposition is some part time players. Giving ODI status to those games are similar to crime. I did that for other Indian players too. So I just didn't single out Shewag.

When you can't understand something it is better to reread the post before making a judgement.
lol, You just cant stop, can you? First of all, I said he had an OK WC, why didnt you quote that? Secondly, I was talking about you being the next S Rajesh. Remember why we all "love" Rajesh? Cuz he takes out all accounts of matches with "incompetent teams". Thats the exact thing your doing. You even said that you - and I quote - "Rajeshed him". And this:
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Giving ODI status to those games are similar to crime.
I dont even have to comment on that.

And since you obviously didnt even read my whole post in an effort to reply back as soon as possible. Here it is again:
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"Anyhoo, there are others that failed both against a minnow team (that apparently doesnt deserve a place in your ratings) and a stronger one. Why does Sehwag beat them into the top XI? Hes the one who prevented the SL-India match from becoming even more of a one-sided contest..."
Thats that. Why I said what I said. Comprende?

Jesus, I have a feeling this wont be over soon....
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Old May 2, 2007, 10:42 AM
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my dream team -

Adam Gilchrist
Mathew Hayden
Ricky Ponting
Jack Kallis
Scott Styris
Mahela Jayawardene
Kevin Pietersen
Mutiah Muralitharan
Shane Bond
Chaminda Vaas
Glenn McGrath
Shaun Tait (12th)

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Make up your mind for once BD4eva.

first you say, Shewag had a good series; then you say, he had a ok series. Which one? Or 'ok' and 'good' is same to you?

2nd, it is you who asked the question if I was agreeing with you or not? Who is not comprehinding here?

3rd don't assume everything. Your lack of understanding of how I derived stats is not my fault. May be that century of shewag means a great deal to you but to me means nothing, nada, zero.

I have every right to do a rajesh, gonesh, dhimesh, ashish anyway I want to. As long as I have a fair judgement to back it up that satisfies me.

You have the same right too. You can create and justify your selection. Just not point fingers at me.

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I see what it is now. Maybe Shewag is your idol, but to me he is a washed up player. I am happy India picked him for the ODIs cause that way he would perform badly again for India which is good for Bd.

In that case just could have said, you didn't agree with my selection of my WC Dream team instead of trying to point finger and say which of my selection was wrong.

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Who started it? Same can be said about you.
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Old May 2, 2007, 11:24 AM
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2nd, it is you who asked the question if I was agreeing with you or not? Who is not comprehinding here?
lol dude...We can keep this up for as long as we want. Your gonna keep changing tactics and going beside the point and Ill keep repeating the same thing over and over again. All I said was that what you were doing was exactly the same as what Rajesh was doing. I dont even understand why you keep attacking everything Im trying to say. I put forward my opinion of what I thought was wrong, and I pointed it out. This is a discussion board. Were meant to discuss, not just give your points forward. Thats why theres a "reply" option. I said that you were doing what Rajesh did. No attacks. I pointed out what exactly, in a manner normally used in a debate. Then you come up with stuff like this:
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I dont know if youve ever been in a proper debate, but saying stuff like that is definitely not the way to go.
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"Good world cup, lol."
Can you not see how that can be taken as if in jest?
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Honestly, what makes you continue on and on with something that both you and I agreed to? Im stopping right here. Lets stop wasting out time on something this silly...Stop trying to attack the person, attack the message if you have to. Till now, youve got nothing...
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The point you think that I was wrong, I think otherwise. You have every right to reply and discuss and debate but if you can't see where I am coming from or what I have replied, the repeatation from my part will continue to convince you that I wasn't wrong. I know I can't convince you but all I can do is relay my points in different ways.

I didn't take offense to your post saying I did a Rajesh or something I need to make that clear. But I wanted to let you know I didn't include shewag just by picking his two lowest scores. I did not agree with what you said even though it may seem that way to you. The game against Bermuda was a dead one for what it is worth.

Then came he did good part. His batting against BD and SL was anything but good for India (was excellent for BD and SL). Who cares if he scores 500 against Bermuda alone? That wouldn't allow India qualify to the second round. That is why I disregarded that stat. Not because I don't like him or something. I did the same with others whom I included to be fare.

From there the comments of "you can't just stop" is just trying to antogonise the other party/person. Is that a way some debates? Now you tell me since you are lecturing on how a person should debate.

since back and forth started from your replies I should be able to defend and reply to your comments and be the last person to stop.
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^ Alright, now that was a good reply. Clear. Now I at least know where we might have gone wrong:
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He got a 48 against Sri Lanka. Thats the second highest score of the Indian Innings. It also came off a strike rate of over a run a ball. So in my opinion, that would be good for India (and not very good for Sri Lanka)... Your right, you should be able to reply if you want to....Go ahead...
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