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Old May 8, 2007, 07:23 AM
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Default Is Gilly a Cheat? - Spirited Defense by Aus Media (8 May 07)

The "squash ball" issue made a belated appearance in the Aus media today (8 May 2007), almost 10 days since the rest of the world started discussing the issue. This clip shows the main 3 TV news networks (Channel 10, Channel 9 and ABC) defending Gilly to the hilt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fScXcFb0STE
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Old May 8, 2007, 07:31 AM
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he's not a cheat, why would he show it to the entire world?
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Old May 8, 2007, 07:44 AM
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Cause the Indian media can't have anything negative of the Aussies, that's why the stir. Poor Indians didn't have the chance to get their a** kicked.
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Old May 8, 2007, 07:46 AM
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Whatever was right or wrong, if it was a Sri Lankan batsman who did it, a lot of people who support Gilchrist would be opposing him, and vice versa.
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Old May 8, 2007, 07:48 AM
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Cause the Indian media can't have anything negative of the Aussies, that's why the stir. Poor Indians didn't have the chance to get their a** kicked.
Please don't blame this one on India. The complaint has come from right at the top in the Sri Lankan administration : http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/sril...ry/293393.html
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Old May 8, 2007, 07:57 AM
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If Ganguly can wear his glass while batting, why can't Gilly use a squash ball!
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Old May 8, 2007, 07:59 AM
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Cause the Indian media can't have anything negative of the Aussies, that's why the stir. Poor Indians didn't have the chance to get their a** kicked.
Any particular reason you r always behind the Indian A**
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Old May 8, 2007, 08:06 AM
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No particular reason. This was a dead issue. Other Australian players have done that. Those who have large hands got benefit from it. This has come back to spot light first where? Which country is making this an issue and bringing in to the main stream news? Cricinfo's reporter affiliated to which country has dug up the issue? Where did he get the inspiration all of a sudden? email him and ask him directly.
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Old May 8, 2007, 08:09 AM
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Liked the comment of Peter Young from Cricket Australia

"If putting a squash ball within the gloves can result in an innings like Gilchrist played, ICC should make it mandatory for all batsmen".
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Old May 8, 2007, 09:08 AM
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Liked the comment of Peter Young from Cricket Australia

"If putting a squash ball within the gloves can result in an innings like Gilchrist played, ICC should make it mandatory for all batsmen".
You cant force players to play with squash ball...they can make it optional, but not mandatory.
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Old May 8, 2007, 09:12 AM
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The answer is simple:
If within the laws, fine!
If not, cheating.
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Old May 8, 2007, 09:42 AM
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Dont rush on Srilanka, they didnt call Gilly a cheat (you did). They are just saying that this is wrong. One cannot use unauthorized aids in cricket gears. Srilanka should file in the appeal so to prevent this and may be other worse things happening that we all wouldnt like.

I bet the AUS spokesman would have raised hue and cry if Jayasuriya did this. But thats not the question. I feel nothing terrible has happened, but if the ICC doesnt pay attention, it might happen next time AUS plays BAN
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Old May 8, 2007, 09:42 AM
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You cant force players to play with squash ball...they can make it optional, but not mandatory.
He was saying it out of expression not meaning it in a serious way.
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Old May 8, 2007, 09:45 AM
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What a sharp observation!!! Bravo...Malcolm Speed would definitely like this insight

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If Ganguly can wear his glass while batting, why can't Gilly use a squash ball!
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Old May 8, 2007, 09:48 AM
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I am with SL. even though i know Gilli did nothing wrong intentionally but I feel like he should have asked or some thing before using a extra thing which is not considered a cricket gear.

I guess not getting runs got to him too.
If Hanse had to take off his ear piece why not this. did he asked the ump before using it? if not that means he knew or the Aus management knew he might get denied for that.
And those who r saying well if the squash ball helps then every one should use it to them i say the ball won't help every one but even if it helps just gilli is he allowed to use it?
My simple question is why didn't he get this approved before using it period?
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Off topic, Here's a video of cheating by all time Aussie great Steve Waugh, he claimed a dropped catch of BC Lara.


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i dont think theres any cricket law which specifically states that you can't put any foreign object inside your gloves. so Gilchrist didn't cheat. if you do something which helps you play better and is not forbidden..then why not?
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Old May 8, 2007, 11:17 AM
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You are wrong. Read BBCs posting on this..

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i dont think theres any cricket law which specifically states that you can't put any foreign object inside your gloves. so Gilchrist didn't cheat. if you do something which helps you play better and is not forbidden..then why not?
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Old May 8, 2007, 11:49 AM
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You use a ball in the glove for the same reason as you tape a bail to the bat handle low down when coaching. It teaches the bottom hand to guide and direct the ball rather than provide power. You hit the ball better with timing than with strength. It is one of the weird things about a game that gets so involved with biomechanics that you place the strongest hand in the place where you don't want it to be dominant, hence the reason there are many succesful right handers that bat "left-handed" (right hand at top of handle).
As for legality? You couldn't define it as "External Protective Equipment" nor as "Clothing", but as it is inside the glove it has no effect on any of the laws. Only wicket keepers currently have specifiactions and rules regarding their gloves so in theory if the use of an item inside the glove became and issue manufacturers could make gloves with an insert that serves the same purpose.

Storm in a cup of dilmah, I reckon. Some of the outraged comments from fans have been pretty funny to listen to though. This was my favourite:

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The characteristic of the squash ball indicates that the ball is made of vulcanised rubber with additions of polymers and synthetic material to achieve a degree of fairly low resilience. The lower the resilience of the object the higher the proportion of energy used in deforming it. Thus when a batsmen hits the cricket ball, the air inside the squash ball gets pressurised or deformed, releasing a spring load of energy, that is transferred directly to the bat, resulting in a catapulting effect on the cricket ball, as evidenced by the spectators, watching Gilchrist’s batting spell bound.

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Old May 8, 2007, 11:52 AM
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You are wrong. Read BBCs posting on this..
Actually, the MCC, who are the custodians of the Laws of Cricket, have said there is no problem with it - it's the same as wearing a thicker inner glove. I'm not sure which BBC posting you're referring to, but this one makes it pretty clear.

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He made no attempt to conceal the use of the squash ball in the final, a tactic worked out with his batting coach Bob Meuleman in Perth prior to the team's departure for the Caribbean.

And in an interview with the Australian newspaper following the final, Meuleman explained that the ball prevented Gilchrist's bat from turning in his hand.

Their position has been backed by the MCC, who are responsible for the laws of the game.

"In this case, apparently the addendum to the inside of the batting gloves was not for protection from injury, but to improve the way the batsman gripped the bat handle.

"This should not be considered unfair. Similarly, it has never been considered unfair for batsmen to use two grips on the bat handle.

"The glove manufacturers might, for added protection against jarring, have put an extra pad of some cushioning material as an integral part of the inside of the palm.

"This would be entirely legal, but have the same effect on his grip for a batsman who wore such gloves.

"In conclusion, the incident could not be classed either as contravening the law or as breaching the spirit of the game," an MCC statement said.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/6633873.stm
End of story. There's nothing stopping anyone from trying it. I encourage all of you to go buy a squash ball, cut it in half, stick it in your glove, and see if it improves your batting.
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Old May 8, 2007, 11:56 AM
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The "squash ball" issue made a belated appearance in the Aus media today (8 May 2007), almost 10 days since the rest of the world started discussing the issue. This clip shows the main 3 TV news networks (Channel 10, Channel 9 and ABC) defending Gilly to the hilt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fScXcFb0STE
I'd suggest the reason that it hasn't gotten attention till now is because it's so ridiculous that it hasn't really been worth discussing. It's actually pretty funny.

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Old May 8, 2007, 02:25 PM
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A bunny with squash-ball-in-glove doesn't a Gilchrist make.
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Old May 8, 2007, 02:38 PM
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For a real example of an Australian cheating, see this clip of Ian Healy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMQUqky18uw
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Old May 8, 2007, 03:26 PM
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sour grapes! i expected more class from our lankan brothers... this is not the way to deal with the pathetic accusations the aussies ceaselessly chuck at murali... man should not bite the dog!

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Old May 8, 2007, 03:28 PM
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Tigers_eye needs to get rid of his indiaphobia, when it seems that SL cricket authorities are after Gilly's squash ball.
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