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Old May 30, 2007, 03:57 AM
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Batting Order

1. Sir Donald George Bradman (AUS)
2. Clive Hubert Lloyd (WI)
3. Sir Isaac Alexander Vivian Richards (WI)
4. Sir Garfield St. Auburn Sobers (WI- Captain)
5. Brian Charles Lara (WI)
6. Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar (IND)
7. Imran Khan Niazi (PAK- Vice Captain)
8. Adam Craig Gilchrist (AUS- WK)
9. Courtney Andrew Walsh (WI)
10. Shane Keith Warne (AUS)
11. Muttiah Muralitharan (SL)

12th Man: Pinnaduwage Aravinda de Silva (SL)

Coach: William Gilbert Grace

Reserves: AUS: Ian Michael Chappell, Gregory Stephen Chappell, Denis Kieth Lillee, Ricky Thomas Ponting; ENG: Sir Leonard Hutton, John Berry (Jack) Hobbs, Ian Terence Botham; WI: Cuthbert Gordon Greenidge, Wesley Winfield Hall, Curtly Elconn Lynwall Ambrose; IND: Sunil Manohar Gavaskar, Bishan Singh Bedi, Anil Kumble; PAK: Syed Zaheer Abbas Kirmani, Mohammad Javed Miandad Khan, Wasim Akram; NZL: Sir Richard John Hadlee, RSA: Barry Anderson Richards, ZIM: Andrew Flower... and all the others i've missed in my ignorance and bias (NOT being bitter).

Future Maybes: Michael John Clarke (AUS), Kevin Peter Pietersen (ENG), Rahul Sharad Dravid (IND), Mohammad Yousuf (PAK), Kumar Chokshanada Sangakkara (SL).

Longshot, Because This is BC and I'm Bangladeshi: Mohammad Ashraful Matin (BD).
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Old May 30, 2007, 05:25 PM
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jesus where did you get all the middle name?
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Old May 30, 2007, 05:54 PM
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Gilchrist makes it to the All-time greats? Who knows? Maybe he deserves it as a Wicket Keeper...
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Old May 30, 2007, 06:27 PM
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Gilchrist makes it to the All-time greats? Who knows? Maybe he deserves it as a Wicket Keeper...
A team like that doesn't need batting prowess..the top order averages around 70. They need agility. Put Dujon instead of Gilly. Warner over Murali.
Wasim somewhere...
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Old May 30, 2007, 06:31 PM
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Sohel - perchance you need to hearken back to history for some other candidates that may have merited inclusion to your list.

I offer Miller, Hobbs and the three W's as possible choices.

But of course, this is your list and your mileage will vary.
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Old May 30, 2007, 06:47 PM
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Either murali or warne...not both....
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Old May 30, 2007, 09:36 PM
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Either murali or warne...not both....
Offcourse Murali. Team can handle chucking over drugs but not both.
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Old May 30, 2007, 09:38 PM
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jesus where did you get all the middle name?

we are lucky he didnt choose Vaas.

Hey is this your test squad or ODI. Is the same team playing 20/20. But just give us Ash. In our day BD can beat any team..you know (Chuckles)
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Old May 30, 2007, 11:18 PM
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we are lucky he didnt choose Vaas.

Hey is this your test squad or ODI. Is the same team playing 20/20. But just give us Ash. In our day BD can beat any team..you know (Chuckles)
ALL forms of the game and then some, maybe even danguli after a few drinks. good one about our very own Sir Ash bro...
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Old May 30, 2007, 11:28 PM
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Sohel - perchance you need to hearken back to history for some other candidates that may have merited inclusion to your list.

I offer Miller, Hobbs and the three W's as possible choices.

But of course, this is your list and your mileage will vary.
i thought about the three Ws also, but the already shameless demonstration of my windies bias prevented me from acting out. John Berry (Jack) Hobbs deserves to be there and has been added to the list of reserves with pleasure... too late to drop Tendy with Gangu visiting this page. one billion is a big enough number.

bit lost on the Miller here Z bhai... please drop some knowledge this way.
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Old May 30, 2007, 11:47 PM
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i thought about the three Ws also, but the already shameless demonstration of my windies bias prevented me from acting out. John Berry (Jack) Hobbs deserves to be there and has been added to the list of reserves with pleasure... too late to drop Tendy with Gangu visiting this page. one billion is a big enough number.

bit lost on the Miller here Z bhai... please drop some knowledge this way.
Not a shameless demonstration of Bias given what WI has produced. Warrell, Walcott and Weekes definitely deserve to be there. You also missed out Graeme Pollock of South Africa, Wally Hammond, Herbert Sutcliffe and Denis Compton of England, Prince Ranjitsinjhi of India, Richie Benaud of Australia. Its a very long list of cricketers vying for 11 spots.
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Old May 31, 2007, 12:03 AM
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Keith Miller - arguably one of the best all rounders.


Batting and fielding averages

Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave 100 50 6s Ct St
Tests 55 87 7 2958 147 36.97 7 13 28 38 0
First-class 226 326 36 14183 281* 48.90 41 63
136 0

Bowling averages

Mat Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4 5 10
Tests 55 10461 3906 170 7/60 10/152 22.97 2.24 61.53 8 7 1
First-class 226 28070 11087 497 7/12
22.30 2.36 56.47
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Old May 31, 2007, 12:06 AM
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Its a very long list of cricketers vying for 11 spots.
Perhaps a more interesting exercise would be to compose an all Northern and Southern Hemisphere teams?

The south get SAF, NZ, Aus, Zim

The north get Eng, Ban, Pak, Ind, SL

To have a balance, WI are the WIld cards - can belong in any team. Let the games begin.
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Old May 31, 2007, 12:15 AM
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Keith Miller - arguably one of the best all rounders.


Batting and fielding averages

Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave 100 50 6s Ct St
Tests 55 87 7 2958 147 36.97 7 13 28 38 0
First-class 226 326 36 14183 281* 48.90 41 63
136 0

Bowling averages

Mat Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4 5 10
Tests 55 10461 3906 170 7/60 10/152 22.97 2.24 61.53 8 7 1
First-class 226 28070 11087 497 7/12
22.30 2.36 56.47
16 1
thanks Z bhai... right you were. why doesn't that surprise me?
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Old May 31, 2007, 12:18 AM
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Not a shameless demonstration of Bias given what WI has produced. Warrell, Walcott and Weekes definitely deserve to be there. You also missed out Graeme Pollock of South Africa, Wally Hammond, Herbert Sutcliffe and Denis Compton of England, Prince Ranjitsinjhi of India, Richie Benaud of Australia. Its a very long list of cricketers vying for 11 spots.
absolutely bro... i've added a little something to the original post. just won't drop clive, too cool a head to start the innings.
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Old May 31, 2007, 12:22 AM
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Perhaps a more interesting exercise would be to compose an all Northern and Southern Hemisphere teams?

The south get SAF, NZ, Aus, Zim

The north get Eng, Ban, Pak, Ind, SL

To have a balance, WI are the WIld cards - can belong in any team. Let the games begin.
please don't try to delegate this one Z bhai, because you can set it up and start the process better than most of us. so can we expect to see some action? hopefully sooner rather than later?... maybe with links to cricinfo?... (drool)
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Old May 31, 2007, 12:22 AM
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Offcourse Murali. Team can handle chucking over drugs but not both.
Don't forget the sex scandals. Warne comes with an awful lotta baggage.
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Perhaps a more interesting exercise would be to compose an all Northern and Southern Hemisphere teams?

The south get SAF, NZ, Aus, Zim

The north get Eng, Ban, Pak, Ind, SL

To have a balance, WI are the WIld cards - can belong in any team. Let the games begin.
Dr.Z, a combination team composed entirely of WI players would be good enough to whoop any other top Northern or Southern Team.

lemme just draw up 3 pools here then, choose your players and take your pick*:

Northern (BD, Pak, Ind, SL, Eng)

Ind: Sachin Tendulkar, Anil Kumble, Rahul Dravid, Saurav Ganguly, Prince Ranjitsingjhi, Kapil Dev, Sunil Gavaskar, Bishan Singh Bedi, Pak: Imran Khan, Javed Miandad, Wasim Akram, Saeed Anwar, Abdul Qadir, Waqar Yunus, Saqlain Mushtaq, Yousuf Youhana/Mohd Yousuf, Inzamam-ul-Haq SL: Muttiah Muralitharan, Arjuna Ranatunga, Aravinda de Silva, Sanath Jayasuriya, Chaminda Vaas, ENG: Sir Leonard Hutton, John Berry (Jack) Hobbs, Ian Terence Botham, Wally Hammond, Herbert Sutcliffe, Denis Compton, Colin Cowdrey, Geoffrey Boycott, Ted Dexter.

Southern (Aus, NZ, RSA)
Aus: Sir Donald George Bradman, Keith Miller, Adam Craig Gilchrist, Shane Keith Warne, Ian Michael Chappell, Gregory Stephen Chappell, Allan Border, Denis Kieth Lillee, Ricky Thomas Ponting, Richie Benaud, Glenn McGrath. RSA: Barry Anderson Richards, Graeme Pollock, Gary Kirsten, Allan Donald, Jacques Kallis. Zim: Andrew Flower (?). NZ: Sir Richard Hadlee, Chris Cairns (?)

WI
Clive Hubert Lloyd, Sir Isaac Alexander Vivian Richards, Sir Garfield St. Auburn Sobers, Brian Charles Lara, Cuthbert Gordon Greenidge, Wesley Winfield Hall, Courtney Andrew Walsh, Curtly Elconn Lynwall Ambrose, Malcolm Marshall, Andy Roberts, Joel Garner, Michael Holding, Sonny Ramadhin, Alf Valentine, Desmond Haynes, Sir Frank Worrell, Sir Clyde Walcott, Sir Everton Weekes, Rohan Kanhai, Alvin Kallicharran

* We're talking about Players who were real specialists in what they did and of the highest class, in terms of consistency, temperament, and just sheer quality. Sadly no one from Bangladesh has attained that yet. For much of the older players, remember that most of the games they played were test match innings, where it was a bowlers game and temperament, perseverance and patience was required of the batsmen All the time.

This list is by no means exhaustive
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Old May 31, 2007, 12:38 AM
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Dr.Z, a combination team composed entirely of WI players would be good enough to whoop any other top Northern or Southern Team.

lemme just draw up 3 pools here then:

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possibly true despite those glorious uncertainties... no aussies in the room yet, no poms either.
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Batting Order

1. Sir Donald George Bradman (AUS)
2. Clive Hubert Lloyd (WI)
3. Sir Isaac Alexander Vivian Richards (WI)
4. Sir Garfield St. Auburn Sobers (WI- Captain)
5. Brian Charles Lara (WI)
6. Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar (IND)
7. Imran Khan Niazi (PAK- Vice Captain)
8. Adam Craig Gilchrist (AUS- WK)
9. Courtney Andrew Walsh (WI)
10. Shane Keith Warne (AUS)
11. Muttiah Muralitharan (SL)

(BD).

I would replace Lloyd with Miandad. Not pterry to watch but a true fighter and a match winner. Unless off course you want Lloyd to captain the side.
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Don't forget the sex scandals. Warne comes with an awful lotta baggage.
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Old May 31, 2007, 02:27 AM
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I would replace Lloyd with Miandad. Not pterry to watch but a true fighter and a match winner. Unless off course you want Lloyd to captain the side.
i dig javed. but too soft a spot for clive bro, a match winner in his own right, and then some. he can only be replaced by one of the three Ws in my book.
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i like it. i'd add Rohan Bholalall Kanhai to the WI lineup.
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I am not a fan of England at all, but watch out for Kevin Pietersen, that guy is just getting better and better all the time.

Now that Lara, Warne, McGrath, and Inzamam are retired, and guys like Tendulkar and Murali are getting close to retirement, I would not be surprised if Kevin Pietersen turns into the #1 star in world cricket in a few years.
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