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Old January 3, 2017, 10:10 PM
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Default Your most profound realization?

Some call it enlightenment. Some shift in thinking. Many times psilocybin induced, while monks get it from deep meditation with years of trials even while even so some in sudden realization either through shock or bereavement. Some call it the light switch, some find it in form of NDE etcetera.

I am very much interested in your subjective experience. The avenue can be anything... and maybe I will get to share mine. I used to have some experience everyday when I used to try cannabis but I quit that so I don't get those anymore.

Basically what's your cosmic joke moment.
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Old January 8, 2017, 12:45 AM
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You have to work hard.. there are no alternate ways...
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Old January 8, 2017, 03:52 PM
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What's your WHY? What makes you get up in the morning ever day? Japanese have a term called ikigai. But on a greater context what is it? Note not what you do, but WHY you do what you do.

More useful links:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6_PMbXllac&t=1525s

(In this video I like the fact the speaker relates that your WHY should be so great, that they have to pull you out of a stretcher before you quit.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRaqe9M2DYc

Simon Sinek. Expert on WHY

https://www.startwithwhy.com/

Interesting Questionnaire

http://www.patrickbetdavid.com/ultimate-questionnaire/


I used to think prestige, fame and money. Bangladesh cricket or to make a name as an author for cricket.

One my saddest realization came was I used to drop off my mom at UCI for medical checkup and leave. One day I came back to pick her up, and I was shocked to see, she was referred to Senior Center. I felt gutted. How time flies away... Ever since that day, I was always with her and didn't really leave her and get away for a drive. I felt like a failure, how I let my mom down at 34 having achieved nothing...

So as much as an egoistical bastard that I am, I do think my greatest WHY actually transcends ingratiation for ego, prestige, fame and wealth. A component is to make mom proud, but to make her proud in my own way. (Last thing I want is to see her pass away seeing me a total loser and a bum.) I mean she'd probably feel proud if I go to school, get an average job, get married and be an average joe blow. But I want to do it my way too. So I am a bit confused as well.

I mention this, because today I gave a goal of an entire day to find my WHY. I know it's an easy day and may seem overkill to spend an entire day over it...but Lincoln said, "If you give me 6 hours to chop down a tree, I'd spend 4 hours sharping my axe."

I KNOW in my heart of hearts WHAT to do, but not WHY I should do it. I mean it's glitzy and all that, but what happens when it becomes s***kill to plough a single step forth? Sometimes until s*** hits the fan IE people getting served with a terminal disease like cancer, most don't find the WHY.

The day is still half-away, so eventually I will hit on my WHY. I think Bangladeshi cricketers need to find the WHY. Why they do what they do? For kicks? For applause, for brownie points? To get laid? To get money, to pay bills?

And "Ami shahrukher moton hote chai is not a f*****in answer."

Sorry I spilled a lot of my personal thoughts.
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That I, can be a doctor or a Psychologists, if I try... I have these tools in me head, to be one. Whether to go ahead, try pursuing it or not... Different matter.
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Life is short. Enjoy every moment as much as you can. Try to do good to others especially the poor or old. Work hard but don't keep on sacrificing your family time.
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That I, can be a doctor or a Psychologists, if I try... I have these tools in me head, to be one. Whether to go ahead, try pursuing it or not... Different matter.
The likelihood of "happenings" increases in med school :p jus saying!
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The following impression is based on a dream I had two nights ago. Some things to consider would be the fact that I am not an Islamic scholar, or a practitioner of Islam and the following is an entirely my interpretation of a particular Islamic thought.

In California a surefire way to identify a Muslim driver would often be from a tell-tale bumper sticker: "Worship the Creator, not the creation." A central and vociferous tenet would be the avoidance of anything that has to do with idol worshiping. I am not an Islamic guru, pun intended which again sounds like pun-dit... [rimshot] okay, but I always found it bewildering, incongruent and puzzling if someone like Mohammad - I will refrain from PBUH because then the following agents who will promptly be introduced will also be entitled to that suffix- ...someone like Mohammad reached a higher level of consciousness, akin to Christ, Jesus or Buddha, why would Islamic teaching be so adamantly against worshiping of idols or false gods.

I mean shouldn't a person of Krsna consciousness or Christ consciousness with Bob Marleysque 'One Love' mantra be all-inclusive, all-loving, compassionate, filled with wisdom, empathy and understanding for all...? This always bothered me and the fact that Muslims shunned the pagan religion, made me shun Islam with fervent aversion.

[Of course, I am putting my own labels and preconceived notions and assumptions.]

And surprisingly when taking college course of Anthropology, Ceramic Arts History, Archaeology... pagan religion and shamanism with bent on magic was NOT the aberration rather the NORM. Then ignited an all-launch crusade to oust them.

Hindus also worship idols but for those who have delved sufficiently in it realize it is just a manifestation of avatars of various gods. " “How many gods are there, Yajnavalkya?” asked Sakalay. Three, thirty three, thirty-three crore, thirty-three million. Take your pick. And so the popular myth goes...

Buddhists on the other hand, again similar to Hindus' concept of Maya, do believe that our self is just an illusion, and everyone has Buddha nature and once you 'kill the ego' the true, real nature of human Self (Atman in Hinduism) emerges. And just Hindus believe the central self of humans is brahman tracing to Atman, Buddhists also talk of the core self as Buddha. Also Buddhism embraces paradoxical thought is 'Everything is Contained in One, and Nothing is Contained in Everything...' and thus.

Now the dream I had was rather disturbing one. Another disclaimer would be to take overall atmosphere, room temperature, air hygiene, previous state of mind into consideration before making any judgment.

I won't narrate the full dream, but a part of it showed a bust, which upon shattering, I kind of had a flash of insight. I started bursting into tears in dream and woke up with heavy breathing.

I kept saying something in the line of 'real you/me lives with compassion, grace, dignity, and humility...' and so on and on and everyone deserves that same treatment.

What later I believed happened, was ego was unmasked. Do look up ego dissolution if you want. But basically the theory is...

Your ego is made up of a distinct personality, a reflection of who you are, as perceived by you, as programmed by your parents, authority like school, teachers, church, mosque, islamic clerics building an image or an ILLUSION of you. This you is not the real You. Your conception of yourself is just an illusion. It is the stories that you keep telling yourself. Suppose someone cut you in traffic you will be huffing and puffing and cursing him, questioning whether he did it intentionally cuz you look like Kumar, etcetera, when from a detached neutral perspective, say from God or an Absolute focal point, nothing really happened and all you have been doing is just telling yourself a story, when in fact the very man who cut you off, just moved on and it was just that... Yet you are still somehow justifying it with your inner critic or inner Woody Allen.

A way to identify your ego would be during meditation when you observe all your thoughts. Where do these thoughts come from? Whose assumptions are these? Moreso, WHOSE voice is this? In many cases, somehow, it should be either of your parents, albeit the more authoritative one, or the one who left a more indelible impression upon your conscience.

But in rare cases - for me it happened during evening walks a few times when mind cleared its fog - you clean the clutter or the mess in your head and you realize your true nature which is unbelievably wise, compassionate -if indeed we are hell-bent on putting terms-...but in reality it is NOTHING. It just is.

For instance, suppose a truck is incoming. If we tell your real personality is very polite and law abiding that is wrong. If we label your real Self as reckless, aggressive and endangering, that would be wrong as well. What would be the real you as revealed by the oncoming truck in your lane? Well at that instant, your real You would take over in danger moment, and you may find yourself breaking the rule and heading to the 'wrong lane' which is empty thus breaking the rule. At that instant, you became a law breaker. But the real you is neither. It just had to react that way just in that situation. Again to put a label of you being reckless, or aggressive all the time would be another 'trap' (so-called).. The real You is basically Nothing.

So the penny dropped when the bust shattered and immediately I had my catharsis. The ego was unmasked.

Assume g is god, and G is God.
Let 'god' (idols) = the small, ego or the personality you identify with.
Let 'God' = the real You or your Self.

If the false god breaks, the g immediately transforms into G.

Now once the false image or false idol breaks, or shatters, what happens? Nothing. It just reveals emptiness. Also not quite.

It reveals the entirety.

Do you now get the point behind Buddhists' paradoxical assertions?

Several things may be clarified culminating to this climax with a simple equation.

A. The bust in the dream was just a metaphor or personification of ego.
B. Once the bust shattered, or so did ego, and thus the real Self was revealed which Eastern mystics would say as boundless, or like limitless ocean.
C. Note, indeed infinity was 'revealed' from the 'atom' of the bust, because emptiness is nothing and everything in one.

And finally,

D. This may be the greatest philosophical legerdemain from Mohammad. When he through revelation from angel insisted not to worship the false god, or false image, this is what he literally may have meant, ie not in the literal sense to denounce all idol worshipers, but that not be attached with the false personality that has been brewing all along in the form your inner critic or voice of your perceived self via the stories you kept hankering on and telling yourself on and on and on...

If you accept this then all seemingly problems do dissolve. That Mohammad could be very well reached that all-inclusive, all-encompassing state-of-mind and that true teachings of Islam may not be just a cosmetic eye candy of shunning of idols or idol worshiper, rather not to put so much value on the false personality who you think you are ie... finite, poor-little-me who is not honest, not boundless, not emotionally stable, not wise, not intelligent, miserly, stingy, slandering, backbiting, negative, jealous etc.

Guess, the real nature of our self is that of a soul or spirit where the Mind simply is. It is neither good or bad. Neti, neti...

It is a pity that his message or core tenet has just been lost in translation over the years.
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^^ I liked the way you paraphrased your dream.. nice read..
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Most profound realization as of today--WWE ain't real, still collecting pieces of my broken heart
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Some call it enlightenment. Some shift in thinking. Many times psilocybin induced, while monks get it from deep meditation with years of trials even while even so some in sudden realization either through shock or bereavement. Some call it the light switch, some find it in form of NDE etcetera.

I am very much interested in your subjective experience. The avenue can be anything... and maybe I will get to share mine. I used to have some experience everyday when I used to try cannabis but I quit that so I don't get those anymore.

Basically what's your cosmic joke moment.
Are you like a professor or something, you remind me of my professor, who is explaining me the laws of permutations and Combinations in Alpha Numeric Passwords

I would`nt be suprised if you have a PhD , every post I read from you is like a philosophical statement
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Are you like a professor or something, you remind me of my professor, who is explaining me the laws of permutations and Combinations in Alpha Numeric Passwords

I would`nt be suprised if you have a PhD , every post I read from you is like a philosophical statement
Yes! I DO have a phd. I DO. I have a phd. I have a phd. If you are chuckling the same reason why I am chuckling then I am chuckling too!
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Yes! I DO have a phd. I DO. I have a phd. I have a phd. If you are chuckling the same reason why I am chuckling then I am chuckling too!
Seriously do you really have a PhD if so in what area
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wow zeeshan nice post !

For me , the day i realized that if i die today, the world will go on as if nothing happened, and i am just an umimportant speck of dust in a wind .
The next day i saw a pic of earth taken from mars , and i realized i am nothing. It showed me how less i matter in the grand scheme of things ( or is there even a grand scheme?) . Is it just a play?
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