National League Awards: Alok Kapali Tops Individual Honors, Raqibul Top Rookie

[Sohel]

here's the summery: -

1. champions: dhaka, bdt 200,000

2. runners up: rajshahi, bdt 100,000

3. most wickets (limited overs): ariful haque barisal, 8 wickets.

http://content-ind.cricinfo.com/ci/c...er/270135.html

4. most wickets (4-day): sabbir ahmed khan chittagong, 53 wickets.

hat-trick article: http://content-ind.cricinfo.com/ci/c...ry/125838.html

5. most runs (limited overs): dhiman ghosh chittagong, 328 runs.

http://content-ind.cricinfo.com/ci/c...yer/56208.html

6. most runs (4-day): gazi salaiddin chittagong, 791 runs.

http://content-ind.cricinfo.com/ci/c...yer/55904.html

7. best all-rounder (limited overs): alok kapali sylhet, 7 wickets & 294 runs.

8. best all-rounder (4-day): alok kapali sylhet, 24 wickets & 744 runs.

http://content-ind.cricinfo.com/ci/c...yer/56251.html

9. best young player: raqibul hasan nirala barisal.

http://content-ind.cricinfo.com/ci/c...yer/56093.html

here's the prothom alo article: -

http://www.prothom-alo.org/mcat.news...yNDc=&mid=OA==

YET ALOK GETS THE SHAFT... AGAIN !!!

[DJ Sahastra]

If one cricketers has failed me in my prediction that he's gonna make it big - it has to be him.

And i blame it partly to the BD management (including a certain Mr. Whatmore) and partly Mr. Alok.

[Sohel]

Originally Posted by DJ Sahastra
If one cricketers has failed me in my prediction that he's gonna make it big - it has to be him.

And i blame it partly to the BD management (including a certain Mr. Whatmore) and partly Mr. Alok.

his "failure" pales in comparison to some the other "winners" in the current squad. he is gonna make it big once new, more fair-minded selectors come in and give him the chance he deserves better than may others.

[yaseer]

Alok Kapali is knocking the door the keeping the current national players in their toe......good for the team.

[DJ Sahastra]

Originally Posted by Sohel NR
his "failure" pales in comparison to some the other "winners" in the current squad. he is gonna make it big once new, more fair-minded selectors come in and give him the chance he deserves better than may others.

It's one sad story of talent wasted by a team that didn't have that liberty.

The sooner the BD management realises that he is neither a specialist bowler, nor a specialist batsman but a uniquely gifted cricketer with an all-round personality (the best fielder in BD team by miles), the better they'll be able to use it.

[Sohel]

Originally Posted by DJ Sahastra
It's one sad story of talent wasted by a team that didn't have that liberty.

The sooner the BD management realises that he is neither a specialist bowler, nor a specialist batsman but a uniquely gifted cricketer with an all-round personality (the best fielder in BD team by miles), the better they'll be able to use it.

absolutely DJ, but sadly not with this bunch of clowns. one of my more unreasonable syloti cuzes was talking about the syloti-quota in the selectors' alleged minds. rajin in and tapash conveniently injured, so it's OK to drop enam and ignore alok... too much naga morich in his diet... but then again...

[layperson]

I for one do not think Alok deserves a recall yet. He had his chances and he had lots of it at a stretch. He failed to capitalize on them. HE is out and thank god for that. He was a burden for the team. If he can keep performing in the league matches consistently and also for the A team then maybe a recall is on the cards but not yet. Moreover I dont think we want any bits and pieces cricketer in the team who is neither a batsman nor a bowler nor an allrounder but can do both without excelling in either. I am more interested in the rise of Rakibul hasan who seems to be doing good for himself. Hope this one is here to stay. I think the current bunch of selectors have done a great job and compared to the previous selecion committes like the one consisting of Aliul they are miles ahead. I hope the next one is even better than this one. This current one actually made some bold decisions and have rightly given some young players a chance to show their mettle.

[Dhakablues]

Why would you say that he doesnt deserve a call? If he is doing well in national league where we have 4 day matches, playing well in A teams,performing from front consistently, what else must he do? Get a surgery and become like a 19 year old and create a media buzz? Seems like thats ( being young) the only criteria these days for the selectors. It seems to me that they, as well as some of the members from this forum, dont think that national performances are any good unless you are 18 year old. Then you are a a genius and we must have them in the team even if you never played any first class matches..

In one sense, its good that he is not being recalled...whats the point in pulling another Tusher Imran with Alok, right? Let there be only one Tusher Imran and not many more...

[SS]

I know he has been given chances, but who didn't get chances. He had a really bad patch but now he is improving, he should keep on playing and show more consistency end of this year. If he does, selectors should take him into consideration.

[Aritro]

It continues to irritate me that he was left out of the A team.

What's the point of the bloody national league if you're not even going to pick its best players in the A team?

[layperson]

First-class	68	120	4	3033	173	26.14			6	11			46	0
List A	102	97	13	2130	114*	25.35			3	8			45	0

First-class	68	6882	3195	107	7/33		29.85	2.78	64.31		4	1
List A	102	2410	1829	48	4/23	4/23	38.10	4.55	50.20	2	0	0

He is averaging 25 and 26 with the bat respectively in first class and list A games. WHich part of that looks impressive !!! Compared to that his bowling stats in first class is more impressive with an average of 29 but going back to list A it is a 38. NOw I have seen this guy bowl and he is probably one of the worst leg spinners I have ever seen playing international cricket. He has no bounce(which is important for a spinner) and absolutely no control over line and length. In a typical over he would give 3 long hops. His batting was more promising but looking at his stats it does not show that he has done anything worthwhile to deserve a call back now given that he was given lots of chances before and failed miserably. This is why I said he needs to perform consistently for couple of seasons in first class as well the A team before we should recall him. Not based on one domestic season.

[Dhakablues]

Does your stat includes the hattick he had in pakistan? Are you relying on Cricinfo stats,, did it include the recent national league or last years?you should pay attention to why he got the award in the first place..We should consider recent performance,, not the entire career span. If you take the entire career then you probably should not even select the new Bangldesh Captain in the squad let alone leading the team, Bashar would still be the captain, Manju and Sharif should be the opening pair, if we take what players have done in their career,, then Pilot would be the King,, after all his 6 at the last over with Akram ensured that we won that ICC tournament which was the foundation of our ODI status.. Lets consider recent years performances as thats what it really matters than the entire career.

[Trigger_Tiger]

Originally Posted by layperson
I for one do not think Alok deserves a recall yet. He had his chances and he had lots of it at a stretch. He failed to capitalize on them. HE is out and thank god for that. He was a burden for the team. If he can keep performing in the league matches consistently and also for the A team then maybe a recall is on the cards but not yet. Moreover I dont think we want any bits and pieces cricketer in the team who is neither a batsman nor a bowler nor an allrounder but can do both without excelling in either. I am more interested in the rise of Rakibul hasan who seems to be doing good for himself. Hope this one is here to stay. I think the current bunch of selectors have done a great job and compared to the previous selecion committes like the one consisting of Aliul they are miles ahead. I hope the next one is even better than this one. This current one actually made some bold decisions and have rightly given some young players a chance to show their mettle.

Oh certainly he did bad and was out of the team! But after that he had started performing and never got the call-up back to the national team where as some jodu-modus did get a knock on their door from time to time.

And NOW, Alok has out-performed many by miles in the league and HE for one IS in form while a BHATIJA of somebody in the team is being kept time and again even though he has been out of form for the past God knows how many games while some Bati Dhunduls are still in the team scoring at a strike-rate of 50.00 or sometimes a little more or less in both forms of the game.

Hmm.....nah Alok SHOULDN'T get the CALL!

If he does, how will I nation's cricket stop failing so nicely ?

[Trigger_Tiger]

Originally Posted by Dhakablues
Does your stat includes the hattick he had in pakistan? Are you relying on Cricinfo stats,, did it include the recent national league or last years?you should pay attention to why he got the award in the first place..We should consider recent performance,, not the entire career span. If you take the entire career then you probably should not even select the new Bangldesh Captain in the squad let alone leading the team, Bashar would still be the captain, Manju and Sharif should be the opening pair, if we take what players have done in their career,, then Pilot would be the King,, after all his 6 at the last over with Akram ensured that we won that ICC tournament which was the foundation of our ODI status.. Lets consider recent years performances as thats what it really matters than the entire career.

I ditto that !!!!!

[iqu15]

From my point of view, Alok is one of the best BD batsmans so far I have seen along witn Ashraful. He has the capability of playing all types shots with outstanding ability to keep the scoreboard moving even in worse case. As far as I can remember, most of the matches when BD was in deep deep trouble losing 4/5 wickets just in 10/15 overs, it was Alok & Pilot who used to rescue the team and helped the team to get a so called "respectable defeat" (HB loves it !!)

I would keep Alok ahead of Ashraful because he is much better player of spin than Ash.I watched him to play magnificintly against Warne, Saqlain,Murali. I know some guys will argue that Ash played very well Murali. But still I think Alok is better than Ash playing spin. Warne & Ponting used to praise him highly.

I know he was totally out of form for certain period of time.It was fair enough to keep him away from the team for that period. But he played very well in the last domestic league. He should have given at least 2/3 chances since he is extremely talented player. Though I was highlighting his batting ability, one must not forget he is an useful bowler, an outstanding fielder and nevertheless he has a positive attitude to be a match winner.

Since BD is going to play against Srilanka away just look at the comparison of Alok & Ash in this regard:

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what is the big difference??

Don't you think that he should have given a chance ????

[Sohel]

good dig, iqu15... twice. you may want to delete the dulicate post... just to to the "advanced" section.

[Dhakablues]

Thats really a good post Iqu. helps to put some perspective. As I susptected, the 2007 series is not at Cricinfo,,Now I am getting a bit worried why was Alok not selected??? But I think there is a trend in Bangladesh... its the media that significantly influences the decisions of pretty much anything. Unless there is a media buzz about someone,,, there is practically no chance that those events will be highlighted. Who knew that Dhiman Ghosh was doing that great as we are so fixated with Mushfiq? Do we know what happening to the pace bowler hunt winner Zahid and Polash? What happened to the "Shahjahan/Shahjada" who could bowl like Murli that Watmore was so impressed by? Its unfortunate that in Bangladesh we read news that comes from the club ( press club they call it..) where reporters copy each other.. all the newspaper hence reports the same stories than some real sports news..Off tangent here.. hence I rest my case..

[layperson]

I just checked the scores from the recent national championship in Toger cricket and yes Alok has done very well in them. He averages more than 50 in both one day and four day matches. Good for him. If he can perform and come back all the best to him. I just remember how he played in the international matches which prompted my post. But I still stick to part of my post, Alok should perform consistently for couple of seasons before getting a recall just because he failed miserably when he got his chances in international matches. Someone was comparing Ashraful's stats with Alok's. Now dont you think that is stretching the stats a bit too far. For all the stats ashraful has won us matches and is a much better player than Alok on his day, the problem with ashraful is his consistency. Alok did not win us any matches. You cannot just compare them like that. Stats wise Bashar is a better test batsman than Ashraful. Do you think Bashar has the ability to play the kiind of innings ashraful played, his 158 against Indian in chittagong, his 136 in his debut in sri lanka? When it comes to a player like ashraful he is miles ahead than the others because on his day he can make a huge difference. You cannot say the same for Alok not until he has won us matches in the international arena. If he performs like this in the next season too and for the A team then I have no issue with his selection but till then he is better off playing domestic matches.

[Trigger_Tiger]

Good stats iqu15.

With SN out of form, I veto Khaled's inclusion and opt for Alok while Mushfique can keep the gloves, they can try out Nafees Iqbal in a test or two just to see where he stands at the moment, and the inclusion of Tamim Iqbal wouldn't be a bad idea at all either !

[istiak]

My only argument for alok and against BCB is that if BCB do not want to call some one by looking at his performance in NCL, why they are organizing that tounament at all?

[istiak]

Originally Posted by layperson
Someone was comparing Ashraful's stats with Alok's. Now dont you think that is stretching the stats a bit too far. For all the stats ashraful has won us matches and is a much better player than Alok on his day, the problem with ashraful is his consistency. Alok did not win us any matches. You cannot just compare them like that. Stats wise Bashar is a better test batsman than Ashraful. Do you think Bashar has the ability to play the kiind of innings ashraful played, his 158 against Indian in chittagong, his 136 in his debut in sri lanka? When it comes to a player like ashraful he is miles ahead than the others because on his day he can make a huge difference. You cannot say the same for Alok not until he has won us matches in the international arena. If he performs like this in the next season too and for the A team then I have no issue with his selection but till then he is better off playing domestic matches.

If some one after playing for 100 ODIs and 20 test matches won 2 ODIs for us whats the so big deal? SN won more matches for us than Ash.

Playing 158 and then scoring 10 consequative single digit score mean little in international cricket.

[Rubu]

Originally Posted by DJ Sahastra
If one cricketers has failed me in my prediction that he's gonna make it big - it has to be him.

And i blame it partly to the BD management (including a certain Mr. Whatmore) and partly Mr. Alok.

No one really failed me in my prediction yet

... and alok and tushar are two who never were in my book.

[SS]

Kapali should have been called in A teams. Selectors are having problem keeping up with the so called 'performers' and giving them chances. It's good that more competition so they will work harder. But totally ignoring a performance, that's not good for the player and also our team.

[Miraz]

Can we use official names for the players?

It helps visitors and also some other members to track the performance of the players.

I will request Sohel NR to change the title to

"National League Awards: Alok Kapali Tops Individual Honors, Raqibul Top Rookie"

[Sohel]

Originally Posted by Miraz
Can we use official names for the players?

It helps visitors and also some other members to track the performance of the players.

I will request Sohel NR to change the title to

"National League Awards: Alok Kapali Tops Individual Honors, Raqibul Top Rookie"

sure, MODS please do your thing.