facebook Twitter RSS Feed YouTube StumbleUpon

Home | Forum | Chat | Tours | Articles | Pictures | News | Tools | History | Tourism | Search

 
 


Go Back   BanglaCricket Forum > Cricket > Cricket

Cricket Join fellow Tigers fans to discuss all things Cricket

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old June 26, 2007, 08:31 AM
Surfer's Avatar
Surfer Surfer is offline
Test Cricketer
 
Join Date: May 20, 2007
Posts: 1,341
Default Question over Bangladesh's test status

I was chatting with a friend from Australia who holds a position the cricket board there. He was telling me that some of the officials were chatting over the current game and were of the opinion that Bangladesh should be stripped off the test status for now. I wonder how long will it take before the opinion becomes official and ICC starts getting pressure.

Non-aisan ICC members have been alerted with south Asia's dominance lately. With as many as four members, south Asia is emerging as the strongest region. They cant do anything about BCCI for obvious reasons. PCB has been on the receiving end. Srilanka has been the worst victim of racism. But the softest target is Bangladesh.

Unless Bangladesh raises the level of games, a question on its test status is likely. Its the second test in a row in which Bangladesh has allowed as many as four centuries in one innings. Getting out cheaply on the same surface does not add any credibility to the batting either. Srilanka has been doing great lately, but India was in a poor form when they were allowed to play like champions. Its high time for BCB to do something. Else if the question is asked, they wouldnt have enough cushion to fall back on.
__________________
Catch the cricket fever on my blog: Cricket Magic
Mahesh Bhatt to make a movie on Bob Woolmer
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old June 26, 2007, 08:39 AM
capslock capslock is offline
Test Cricketer
 
Join Date: August 29, 2003
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,671

If those were the standards the West Indies should have been stripped of their status a long time ago.
__________________
"You score 30, I score 30, we win match."
--Mohd. Ashraful
Any comments along the lines of 'Xxxxx player will make a century today' will result in an instant IP ban.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old June 26, 2007, 08:53 AM
Go_Bangladesh Go_Bangladesh is offline
ODI Cricketer
 
Join Date: December 26, 2004
Location: Montreal, Canada
Favorite Player: Mohammad Ashraful
Posts: 573

You really have to understand. We have actually come down in standard in test cricket. Before our 13 month break from test cricket, Bangladesh were not so bad, we had won many sessions against strong teams (remember Pakistan, India and ofcourse Australia). Our latest dip in form is due to the lack of test cricket and once we start playing test on a regular basis like before, add to that the addition of some new players and removal of average players, we will be a much better side. What I am trying to say is that its not that Bangladesh have not improved in test cricket. We were like this during our initial days but improved a lot since. Our recent dip in form is due to lack of cricket. We have shown a lot of promise in test cricket and given matches we will shine again like before.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old June 26, 2007, 08:57 AM
Miraz's Avatar
Miraz Miraz is offline
BC Staff
BC Editorial Team
 
Join Date: February 27, 2006
Location: London, United Kingdom
Favorite Player: Mohammad Rafique
Posts: 14,900

A news with some friends chatting about the Test status should not be used to open a thread.

Bangladesh's performance will raise questions and have raised before. It's nothing new, Bangladesh will overcome these tough period, I have no doubt in it.

2nd Day of a 3 match Test series is not the ideal time to start the bandwagon.
__________________
You only play good cricket when you win/draw matches.
I am with Bangladesh, whether they win or lose . http://twitter.com/BanglaCricket
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old June 26, 2007, 08:57 AM
SS SS is offline
Cricket Guru
 
Join Date: February 24, 2004
Posts: 9,226

Quote:
Originally Posted by capslock
If those were the standards the West Indies should have been stripped of their status a long time ago.
Agree with capslock, but the issue is more major and not just stripping of test status. The concern is the rise of cricket of south asian nations obviously creating imbalance of cricket authority power. Anyways, long story short and putting in nice words, there will be observation on the progress of 'developing cricket nations'(e.g. BD, ZIMB,KEN etc.), curtail lots of matches against top teams in order to preserve the international cricket standard. If we play two to three test in a year that should be enough to preserve the standard and give us a 'way to progress and move forward'.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old June 26, 2007, 09:00 AM
Rabz's Avatar
Rabz Rabz is offline
BanglaCricket Staff
BC - Bangladesh Representative
 
Join Date: February 28, 2005
Location: Here
Favorite Player: Father of BD Cricket
Posts: 20,480

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miraz
A news with some friends chatting about the Test status should not be used to open a thread.

Bangladesh's performance will raise questions and have raised before. It's nothing new, Bangladesh will overcome these tough period, I have no doubt in it.

2nd Day of a 3 match Test series is not the ideal time to start the bandwagon.
Very well said Miraz bhai.
Its only a year ago we came agonisingly close in defeating Australia, and if the 2nd day of the test match was anything to go by, we would have won the match.

This is a direct result of not playing test match for over a year.
__________________
Verily, in the remembrance of Allah do hearts find rest [Al-Qur'an,13:28]
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old June 26, 2007, 09:02 AM
cover_point cover_point is offline
Club Cricketer
 
Join Date: February 15, 2006
Location: I used to date Sumudhu much before Jayasuriya
Posts: 50

Relax. If ICC goes onto grant and deny test status like that, it will discourage many of the Associate members and the game will never expand as the ICC wishes. As long as SL is a member of the ICC, it will always stand by BD and support it's status.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old June 26, 2007, 09:02 AM
syzygy syzygy is offline
First Class Cricketer
 
Join Date: May 16, 2007
Posts: 436

its only when u perform badly that these questions are raised. i dont think bd should be stripped off their test status based on their last 2 performance, however I dont like to see those records by vaas and gillespie too. i wish ashraful only keeps his promise which he made before he left bd.its time to put words into action.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old June 26, 2007, 09:07 AM
Ahmed_B's Avatar
Ahmed_B Ahmed_B is offline
BanglaCricket Staff
 
Join Date: February 3, 2004
Posts: 5,566

Quote:
Originally Posted by Surfer
some of the officials were chatting over the current game and were of the opinion that Bangladesh should be stripped off the test status for now.
And they already forgot AUS's 5-day nerve-breaking thriller against BD in early 2006, where Ponting had to play the innings of his life to save face?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Surfer
I wonder how long will it take before the opinion becomes official and ICC starts getting pressure.
This 'wondering' thing has been going on (among external observers) since the very first year of BD's test debut. It will remain ongoing for ever... as it appears.
__________________
Well...you only get one chance to make your first impression somewhere...!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old June 26, 2007, 09:12 AM
Ehsan's Avatar
Ehsan Ehsan is offline
BanglaCricket Staff
 
Join Date: February 12, 2003
Location: Toronto
Posts: 5,275

I have only few words for you: Just wait 4-5 years more till we start beating the big boys in Test cricket regularly.
__________________
::::::::¤ E h S a n ¤::::::::
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old June 26, 2007, 09:14 AM
akabir77's Avatar
akabir77 akabir77 is offline
Cricket Guru
 
Join Date: February 23, 2004
Location: Overland Park, Kansas
Favorite Player: Nantu Ghotok
Posts: 10,768

who cares what your friends think. tell them they r not in power any more...
__________________
1. Shahadat Hossain: Mufambisi c Mashud; Chigumbura lbw; Utseya c Mashud
2.
Abdur Razzak: P Utseya caught; RW Price lbw; CB Mpofu lbw
3. Rubel Hossain: Corey J A bowled; BB McCullum caught; JDS Neesham caught
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old June 26, 2007, 09:15 AM
Ganguly da Ganguly da is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: March 17, 2007
Location: Austin,TX/ Kolkata,IND
Favorite Player: Sourav Ganguly
Posts: 1,068

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ehsan
I have only few words for you: Just wait 4-5 years more till we start beating the big boys in Test cricket regularly.
Hopefully players will keep that in mind

Last edited by Ganguly da; June 26, 2007 at 09:44 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old June 26, 2007, 09:20 AM
Ganguly da Ganguly da is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: March 17, 2007
Location: Austin,TX/ Kolkata,IND
Favorite Player: Sourav Ganguly
Posts: 1,068

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miraz
A news with some friends chatting about the Test status should not be used to open a thread.

Bangladesh's performance will raise questions and have raised before. It's nothing new, Bangladesh will overcome these tough period, I have no doubt in it.

2nd Day of a 3 match Test series is not the ideal time to start the bandwagon.

This is probably a knee-jerk reaction from the disappointment, but you have to accept the fact that these chats have been doing rounds everywhere, especially after BD's performance in last 2 test matches and this one. You don't need to come down hard on the thread-starter....he's just stating what's out there. Hopefully things will get better for BD and everyone here is praying for that.

It's not about raising questions, its about the questions that are being raised are being confirmed by the performances as time goes by
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old June 26, 2007, 09:25 AM
sandpiper sandpiper is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: April 9, 2007
Location: USA
Favorite Player: Wasim Akram
Posts: 6,467

ditto
Quote:
Originally Posted by capslock
If those were the standards the West Indies should have been stripped of their status a long time ago.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old June 26, 2007, 09:28 AM
al Furqaan's Avatar
al Furqaan al Furqaan is offline
Cricket Sage
 
Join Date: February 18, 2004
Location: New York City
Favorite Player: Mominul, Nasir, Taskin
Posts: 20,771

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganguly da
This is probably a knee-jerk reaction from the disappointment, but you have to accept the fact that these chats have been doing rounds everywhere, especially after BD's performance in last 2 test matches and this one. You don't need to come down hard on the thread-starter....he's just stating what's out there. Hopefully things will get better for BD and everyone here is praying for that.

It's not about raising questions, its about the questions that are being raised are being confirmed by the performances as time goes by
as time goes by, eh?

thats another point...bangladesh are notorious slow learners when it comes to test cricket (and i'd say we've done a fair job given the situation at hand).

so often, we start a series off poorly, then get into the thick of things after a while.

england series 2005, remember 108 all out? thats not a far cry from the current 89 all out...but by the 4th innings of our series (the last innings in 2 test series), our boys managed to score 300.

given the number of caps some of our key players have (10 for rajib, 3 for sakib, 2 for razzak), its not surprising we find our self in teh situation we are in. most teams A teams players have more test caps that our stars. after a 13 break they will struggle. hence the india and SL test match debacles.

i gurantee the matches will be more competitive come the 3rd test of this series.
__________________
Bangladesh is a stronger team with Shakib al Hasan.
Bangladesh is a stronger team without Shakib al Hasan.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old June 26, 2007, 09:32 AM
SS SS is offline
Cricket Guru
 
Join Date: February 24, 2004
Posts: 9,226

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganguly da
hopefully your players would have that in mind while playing test matches 4-5 yrs from now and not give batsmen like Chaminda Vaas....a century!
are you a well-wisher? Currently we are discussing something important about improvement and trying to seek cosolation for our battered soul...this comment will invoke unnecessary sentiment.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old June 26, 2007, 09:32 AM
Omio's Avatar
Omio Omio is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: February 25, 2006
Location: London, UK
Favorite Player: Only Ashraful & Me
Posts: 4,429

Dont believe the Auusis, the r racist...
and dont care wht other people say about us,
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old June 26, 2007, 09:44 AM
Ganguly da Ganguly da is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: March 17, 2007
Location: Austin,TX/ Kolkata,IND
Favorite Player: Sourav Ganguly
Posts: 1,068

Quote:
Originally Posted by SS
are you a well-wisher? Currently we are discussing something important about improvement and trying to seek cosolation for our battered soul...this comment will invoke unnecessary sentiment.
sorry, I edited that. Didn't mean it to come out that way
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old June 26, 2007, 09:46 AM
shujan shujan is offline
Test Cricketer
 
Join Date: December 27, 2004
Posts: 1,248

Another bull crap thread.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old June 26, 2007, 09:47 AM
DJ Sahastra DJ Sahastra is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: July 20, 2004
Location: US
Posts: 2,847

I agree with Miraz - it is only 2 days. Lets see how the rest of the series goes.

On a personal note, i am extremely disappointed. BD team is not improving at all in the longer version. If not for a certain Mr. Mashrafe, the team would looks nowhere close to any international standard.

I wonder if the blame lies on the selectors or the players themselves. I have seen much more fight from teams like Zimbabwe (and i can bet they'll fight harder evn today). I just can't believe why the team won't evolve.
__________________
Baba Tomar Bangladeshe Koto Kola Chao
Kola Bagan Chash Koira Kosto Koira Khao Baba Re
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old June 26, 2007, 09:58 AM
uss01 uss01 is offline
ODI Cricketer
 
Join Date: February 23, 2006
Posts: 553

Yup totally agree. No need to strip test status. But just limit the number of matches. Heck, even just playing the test matches at home is good enough. Even
3-5 test matches per season at home is not bad (from November to March). Then maybe in 2-3 years as we gradually improve, I'm sure other countries will want to invite us anyways.


Quote:
Originally Posted by SS
Agree with capslock, but the issue is more major and not just stripping of test status. The concern is the rise of cricket of south asian nations obviously creating imbalance of cricket authority power. Anyways, long story short and putting in nice words, there will be observation on the progress of 'developing cricket nations'(e.g. BD, ZIMB,KEN etc.), curtail lots of matches against top teams in order to preserve the international cricket standard. If we play two to three test in a year that should be enough to preserve the standard and give us a 'way to progress and move forward'.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old June 26, 2007, 10:01 AM
Miraz's Avatar
Miraz Miraz is offline
BC Staff
BC Editorial Team
 
Join Date: February 27, 2006
Location: London, United Kingdom
Favorite Player: Mohammad Rafique
Posts: 14,900

The problem is in our batting. The bowling was not that bad on a dead track. Look at Sri Lanka's top 10 Test total (8 out of 10 are at home and 6 are at SSC). Look at the top score and opponents. Sri Lanka is a top team at home.

Highest totals
Sri Lanka - Test matches
Score Overs RR Inns
Opposition Ground Match Date Scorecard
952/6d 271.0 3.51 2
v India Colombo (RPS) 2 Aug 1997 Test # 1374
756/5d 185.1 4.08 2
v South Africa Colombo (SSC) 27 Jul 2006 Test # 1810
713/3d 165.3 4.30 2
v Zimbabwe Bulawayo 14 May 2004 Test # 1699
628/8d 182.0 3.45 2
v England Colombo (SSC) 18 Dec 2003 Test # 1675
627/9d 197.0 3.18 2
v West Indies Colombo (SSC) 29 Nov 2001 Test # 1572
610/6d 171.0 3.56 2
v India Colombo (SSC) 29 Aug 2001 Test # 1559
591 156.5 3.76 2
v England The Oval 27 Aug 1998 Test # 1423
590/9d 202.4 2.91 2
v West Indies Galle 13 Nov 2001 Test # 1567
586/6d 161.0 3.63 1
v Zimbabwe Colombo (SSC) 27 Dec 2001 Test # 1581
577/6d 135.5 4.24 2
v Bangladesh Colombo (SSC) 25 Jun 2007 Test # 1837
__________________
You only play good cricket when you win/draw matches.
I am with Bangladesh, whether they win or lose . http://twitter.com/BanglaCricket
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old June 26, 2007, 10:05 AM
Tigers_eye's Avatar
Tigers_eye Tigers_eye is offline
Cricket Savant
 
Join Date: June 30, 2005
Location: Little Rock
Favorite Player: Viv Richards, Steve Waugh
Posts: 25,183

Just wanted to ask surfer to ask his friends what were their comments when they (Aus) were almost on the brink of losing the first test in BD tour. And that was only last year. Just want an honest answer from them.

Tide changes twice a day. These same friends would fight for BD test status when they get beat. Won't they???
__________________
The Weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the Strong." - Ghandi.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old June 26, 2007, 10:06 AM
SS SS is offline
Cricket Guru
 
Join Date: February 24, 2004
Posts: 9,226

[quote=Miraz;491048]The problem is in our batting. The bowling was not that bad on a dead track. Look at Sri Lanka's top 10 Test total (8 out of 10 are at home and 6 are at SSC). Look at the top score and opponents. Sri Lanka is a top team at home.
/quote]

Thanks for the list, feeling little better
SL is a very good team and in their soil they are super.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old June 26, 2007, 10:13 AM
bharat bharat is offline
ODI Cricketer
 
Join Date: September 25, 2005
Posts: 914

This might suprise a few ..but as long as the BCCI has sway over ICC , BD test status will never be in doubt ..some may call say India is serving its own pupropose ...but thats what it is ...

But guys why should one bad performce raise the same old wuestion?
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:09 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
BanglaCricket.com
 

About Us | Contact Us | Privacy Policy | Partner Sites | Useful Links | Banners |

© BanglaCricket