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Old June 26, 2007, 09:52 PM
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Default Bangladesh Test Team: problems in the background and possible solutions

Bangladesh is already 7 years old in the test arena. This is very little time be a good competitive test outfit. But yet some significant improvements should have been there for them in this time. It's a matter of great sorrow that we are still in the same place from where we started our journey. Habibul Bashar is the only productive test batsman BD ever had. If he is not in good form then the real color of the batting line up gets exposed. It is clearly evident that there are some real problems prevailing in the background that must be addressed and fixed in order to be a competitive test outfit.

A few fellow members including Ahmed bhai and Miraz bhai already had pointed some real problems that lie behind the inconsistency of Bangladesh in test cricket. Here I am adding a few more.

History of long version cricket in Bangladesh
Bangladesh came into test arena without having any longer version domestic cricketing structure and the game was mainly being played around Dhaka, the capital of Bangladesh. Bangladesh introduced longer version of cricket into their domestic league in 1999/2000. In the first year, those games were not considered as first class ones. From 2000-2001 session, the national league games got the status of being first class ones. So our players started to play first class games and test matches at the same year. This says a lot about their failure in test cricket.

Starting from there we have already passed 7 years and by this time our cricketing structure should have been well organized. But surprisingly the main cricketing body of the country, BCB, failed to make things right. Although there are thousands of players throughout the country, none of the domestic leagues are strong enough to make players ready for the international arena.

Current conditions and statistics
Only 12 centuries have been scored in the tests in all these 7 years. Only a single batsman have batting average above 30 and another one have average above 25 (minimum of 20 test innings are taken into consideration). No player in the current test team have average above 40 in first class cricket. So far the team managed to achieve a single win which was against low ranked Zimbabwe. This shows the real poor batting capability of the team. This is really pathetic as these batsmen have a lot of talents and promises.

Bangladesh has been struggling from the very first day of their test birth and this poor form continues till today. There is no significant improvement shown over the years. Players keep on making same mistakes over and over again. In ODI cricket, we started to be a little bit competitive. But in test arena, we really have a long long way to go.

The roots of the Problem

Unorganized domestic cricket and infrastructure:
The only first class tournament in the country, National Cricket League, is still in very immature stage. BCB never took this tournament serious enough though this is the main platform to build a player. Under-prepared wickets, insufficient practice facilities, low budget for local leagues are the big obstacles. There are not enough qualified coaches for domestic teams which makes it almost impossible for young boys to adopt good techniques and temperament.

The wickets throughout the country are dead and players never have to face enough challenge in playing on these wickets. Dead wickets discourages pace bowlers too. This is one of the reasons our players fail to deliver in international arena where they have to face different conditions and wickets regularly.

Failure in finding and culturing raw talents:
While we have a good number of raw young batting talents, we failed to find enough good bowlers; both in pace and spinning departments. In these 7 years, we could only be able to find a very few pace bowlers who can stand up to international level. Enough new pacers are not coming up. Same goes for spinning department. We don't have a single leggie who can be considered as an excellent one. Same thing is true for off-spinners too. This means that we failed make enough search to find promising bowlers.

There are a lot of talented raw young batsmen along with a few good promising pacers throughout the country. But we failed to provide enough training stuffs to them for sure.

Wrong selection policy and early pushing in to the big show
History is repeating itself again and again. Whenever our players fail to deliver, we tend think that pushing new bloods into the team will solve the problem. They play a few good innings then start to collapse. Being very young, they have technical and metal weakness. Once these weaknesses are exposed to outside world those teams keep on capitalizing them. There are a lot of examples for this. Most of these players have only few first class match experiences before pushing into the big arena of test cricket. A good example of this can be our current captain Md. Ashraful. He became the youngest ever player to score a test century which one was against one of the best bowling attacks in the world consisting of Vaas and Murali. Though he was technically good, he wasn't metally tough enough to continue in the form. Once he failed to deliver consistently, he never could become mentally strong enough to recover and we still see him being inconsistent as a result of lack of confidence. The same thing goes true for a lot of other players like Shahriar Nafess, Alok Kapali, Nafees Iqbal and few others. This is the reason Australia never pushes a young player too early into the big show. And we all see the excellent result of their policy.

We need to bring mature ones into the team when we need to replace some one from the current side. Alok Kapali, Nafis Iqbal and few other players who has been dropped earlier are a bit more consistent at present. No need to push young bloods again to destroy them.

Lack of a competitive domestic cricket:
In domestic cricket, our batsmen rarely face a bowler who is really good. So it gets easy for them to score runs. But when they come to international level,they cannot cope with the quality of the bowling. Same thing is true for bowling department as well. Getting wickets in local leagues is not that tough. The real quality of the bowlers gets exposed when they face good batsmen like Jayawardene, Sachin, Dhoni etc.

In domestic cricket, you don't need to rotate strike to score runs. It's too easy there to play big shots. But international level is different. At times, scoring gets harder and to keep up the momentum you need to rotate strike.

Shot selection has the biggest problem. There is not easy way to solve this problem. Facing quality bowling regularly is the only way to overcome this problem.

One way to solve this problem is to keep the 'A' side and the academy side busy with playing similar teams from other countries. The boys need to be there for a few years before coming to top most level. This intermediate level will give them enough exposure and yet the chance to recover their technical weakness and enhance their mental strength.

A good option can be sending young talented players to play domestic leagues in other countries like Australia, England and South Africa. This will be really an invaluable exposure and experience for them.


Conclusion:
We must work with these problems before it's getting too late.There is no way to forget that we already passed long 7 years in test cricket.
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Old June 26, 2007, 11:31 PM
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The post might have been a little bit bigger to read. Sorry for that.
Nothing to be sorry about...this is a front page material.
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Old June 26, 2007, 11:33 PM
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Old June 27, 2007, 03:02 AM
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A very good post, agree with you 100%, if BCB tried to address these problems especially the domestic arena, we would definetly have improved at a faster rate, but we still have the same old problems, never mind tackling new ones.
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Old June 27, 2007, 03:31 AM
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Bring back Nafis Iqbal and Kapali...both deserves a recall...
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Old June 27, 2007, 08:39 AM
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Bring back Nafis Iqbal and Kapali...both deserves a recall...
If JO has to come back to BD due to the injury, I would prefer Nafis Iqbal to replace him.
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Old June 27, 2007, 09:03 AM
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A good read. Thanks Warwolf. We have discussed most of the points before. Now the administrators need to sit down and work on a plan to take us to the new level.
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Old June 27, 2007, 09:14 AM
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A good read. Thanks Warwolf. We have discussed most of the points before. Now the administrators need to sit down and work on a plan to take us to the new level.
I wish we could take some steps with the 'administrators'. I believe our forum and members have more insights, planning expertise and ideas than our administrators. Though it is more difficult to implement these ideas, if not BCB we have to reach to the big private sponsors and companies.
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Old June 27, 2007, 09:20 AM
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I wish we could take some steps with the 'administrators'. I believe our forum and members have more insights, planning expertise and ideas than our administrators. Though it is more difficult to implement these ideas, if not BCB we have to reach to the big private sponsors and companies.
A good example of what our administrators are busy with can be found at today's prothom alo.
http://www.prothom-alo.org/mcat.news...3ODU=&mid=OA==
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Old June 27, 2007, 11:43 AM
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Is it already on the front page? A great effort searching for the facts. Good work, WW.
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Old June 27, 2007, 12:56 PM
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Post Our faults as a team(not just batting!)

All these days people have been banging on about how poor we were at batting. That is definitely not correct. Let me list a few of my views.
1. Valueing our wicket(we bat good but then decide its time for silly shots)
2.Have more options for bowling(bating isnt 2 bad, 2 day all players ended on double figures, we just need a 3rd recognised fast bowler and spinner)
3.Play more test cricket at domestic club level
4.Practice 1 hour and half of batting and 1 hour and hlaf on bowling at least every day instead of just half an hour or so.
5.Stop hitting balls close to wicket keeper in slip and gulley(2 much times that has happened in this test so far and india test)
6. Stay mentally cool some of the players and time the ball especially Rafique,Bashar and Ashraful who keep hitting the ball high in the air right in front of the fielders
Otherwise we r a good team and 2days performace was organised and good aggresive batting.
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Old June 28, 2007, 08:05 AM
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Thanks everyone who liked the post.
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Old June 28, 2007, 08:33 AM
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"Only 12 centuries have been scored in the tests in all these 7 years. Only a single batsman have batting average above 30 and another one have average above 25 (minimum of 20 test innings are taken into consideration). No player in the current test team have average above 40 in first class cricket."
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Old June 28, 2007, 08:47 AM
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Only a single batsman have batting average above 30 and another one have average above 25 (minimum of 20 test innings are taken into consideration). No player in the current test team have average above 40 in first class cricket."
An explanation (actually a reasonable guess) for the low fc average could be that once someone becomes a regular international cricketer, he plays more for Bangladesh than the domestic teams. So even if he averages 40+ in domestic cricket, the average for the national side will drag down the first class average to under 40.
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Old June 28, 2007, 08:48 AM
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I just can't believe how our tail enders just gave up on it. They showed not even a bit of courage to stand out there and play for an hour or two. I'm deeply hurt seeing this performance. Losing respect for many of our players.
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Old June 28, 2007, 08:55 AM
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An explanation (actually a reasonable guess) for the low fc average could be that once someone becomes a regular international cricketer, he plays more for Bangladesh than the domestic teams. So even if he averages 40+ in domestic cricket, the average for the national side will drag down the first class average to under 40.
A valid point. But still there are some real problems in domestic cricket for sure. There is a not a single tripple hundred in first class against the name of any bangladeshi batsman. I am not sure about the number of double hundreds though. Can anyone tell about it?
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Old June 28, 2007, 09:07 AM
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There is one 300 now - Raqibul Hasan scored it three months back - http://cricketarchive.co.uk/Archive/...16/116306.html

From the team-wise stats at http://cricketarchive.co.uk/Archive/...***/index.html, there are just 8 200s in domestic cricket including Raqibul's innings, one of which is by a foreigner (Imran Farhat). No batsman has scored more than one and no team has more than two (2 for Biman and Chittagong, 1 Barisal Division, Dhaka, Khulna and Rajshahi)
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Old June 28, 2007, 09:17 AM
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There is one 300 now - Raqibul Hasan scored it three months back - http://cricketarchive.co.uk/Archive/...16/116306.html

From the team-wise stats at http://cricketarchive.co.uk/Archive/...***/index.html, there are just 8 200s in domestic cricket including Raqibul's innings, one of which is by a foreigner (Imran Farhat). No batsman has scored more than one and no team has more than two (2 for Biman and Chittagong, 1 Barisal Division, Dhaka, Khulna and Rajshahi)
Thanks for the correction and thanks again for the rest of the information.
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solution nr 1:

bashar out, bashar out, bashar out,

solution nr 2:

mashud out mushfiq in, pilot out mushfiq in, pilot out mushfiq in.
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Old June 28, 2007, 11:32 AM
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WarWolf -

Thank you for your thoughtful observations. This is the type of stuff that'll make us grow as a cricket culture. Definitely front page stuff.
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didnt read it yet, but it has my vote for front page...(do we even do that anymore???)
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Old June 28, 2007, 03:26 PM
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10 FC match/season not enough plus our top player only playing few match in NCL due to international duty is also major fact. Season starting in November. They should start in October

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I dont know about Alok but Seezan was not given enough chance in international
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Well thoughtout and written. Fornt page vote, "Yes".
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Old June 29, 2007, 05:17 AM
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Looking at the stats provided by mo1974, this is evident that Alok deserves a call soon.
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Old June 29, 2007, 09:29 AM
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Looking at the stats provided by mo1974, this is evident that Alok deserves a call soon.
The other guy named Ehsanul, any ideas on him? He seems like a more mature guy, and could be given a chance. What are his limitations?
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