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View Poll Results: Do you think we should keep our Test status?
Yes, we're fine (choice for patriots) 5 4.35%
Yes, but we need to improve. Just keep playing and get better 33 28.70%
No, but give the team some more time 5 4.35%
No, strip off the Test status immediately, and let the team earn it back 31 26.96%
Yes, but our domestic structure should be fixed to keep Test status" 41 35.65%
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Old July 3, 2007, 10:02 AM
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Default Our Test status - strip it off & wait until we can actually play Test

Okay, so that's enough. I don't need to say why this comes here.

Think hard, and think realistically. We're not in a position to play mediocre level of Test cricket, forget competitive. If I don't fit in grade 6, but in grade 4, I should go to grade 4. And that is the decision we have to make about our Test status.

There's no point in going to play a game which we cannot play. We cannot survive for even 4 days in the 5 day match. That tells you how unfit we are for this.

Our domestic structure doesn't have anything to prepare the players for Test cricket properly. And until that happens, we cannot just throw in some average players in the field and ask them to play. At the same time, our players shouldn't just get happy like a little kid when given a chance to play Test cricket, as if it's a candy that they got after bugging their parents for hours.

So what is your thought about it? Should we be stripped off our Test status?
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Old July 3, 2007, 10:06 AM
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As much a painful report it is to read, stripping off the Test-Status is neither the problem nor the solution.

I am also inclined to say that on terms of sheer technique, the team is not as bad as they perform. If New-Zealand is on one end of the extreme (talent Vs Performance ratio), BD seems to be the other extreme.

Maybe the Team needs right message and right direction. 50 Tests and just one-win - Boys, it just won't do.
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Old July 3, 2007, 10:08 AM
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We don't have to do anything but big decission is on its way. (no source)
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Old July 3, 2007, 10:09 AM
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Mods: can I have one more option please? Option should read: "Yes, but our domestic structure should be fixed to keep Test status"
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Come on man, I think we r still able to play some good cricket.
Things didnt go right way everytime, its a downwards spiral.
Everything will be alright. SL tour is always difficult for all not only us.
okay..
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Old July 3, 2007, 10:11 AM
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Mods: can I have one more option please? Option should read: "Yes, but our domestic structure should be fixed to keep Test status"
Done.
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Old July 3, 2007, 10:12 AM
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Done.
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It's sad; but I completely agree with you. For the first time I want a relief from watching these painful jokes.

I have always believed in the potential of our players and I believed they could overcome the mental shortcomings they have. They could be professional enough to overcome all the limitations imposed by the stupid authority. Sadly, there is no sign of any improvement. I am not saying it because of the current tests and the series against India; I conclude it also taking the WC performance (from cricketing sense, WC performance was horrible bar 1 or two matches, and the final standing hides the actual performance and the tons of stupidities) in to account.

Untill we can not improve our overall skill, a big NO to these humiliations.
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As far as the thread goes, I gotta say have patience. We need to fix our domestic structure. We should still keep the test status. May be another year break from Test could be provided to fix the domestic structure.
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I would say, BD team should ONLY play home-series for next few years. Atleast they always provide some silver lining (Ashraful's Century, Mashrafe's exploits etc.)
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I would say, BD team should ONLY play home-series for next few years. Atleast they always provide some silver lining (Ashraful's Century, Mashrafe's exploits etc.)
That's not a solution. Home or away does not matter for the team. They are playing the same. So, either they improve drastically, or go for the kill.

Enough is enough!
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Old July 3, 2007, 10:19 AM
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The question is provocative. But don't let emotions control your mind.

The question is simple. But it needs a well coordinated action of your brain, your mind, and your emotions. You're not insulting yourself, but you're being honest about yourself. The last thing anyone of us would want to do is get hired as a CEO and get paid $250,000 a year, knowing that we're not suited for that job. It's called "greed".
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I would say, BD team should ONLY play home-series for next few years. Atleast they always provide some silver lining (Ashraful's Century, Mashrafe's exploits etc.)
I like this idea of Home test series. For ODIs I think we should still tour other countries to make our players get used to different condition as they develop their game.

Furhter, BD A team and age level teams should also play longer version of the game and should go on tour often.
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I would say, BD team should ONLY play home-series for next few years. Atleast they always provide some silver lining (Ashraful's Century, Mashrafe's exploits etc.)
Bhaijan, amader shathe ar keu ki test kelbe ....amar khub kosto lagtase je keu ar kelbena amader shathe. Shobai ignore kore last boy ke. amader batsmen aeit je ki korlo ami bujlam na. amader cricket basics nai.
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Old July 3, 2007, 10:22 AM
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That's not a solution. Home or away does not matter for the team. So, either they improve drastically, or go for the kill.

Enough is enough!
Baundule,

I suspect one of the major problem with BD team is confidence. I so hope and wish that BD had won that Test against Aussies or the Multan Test - i can guarantee those Tests had the capability of changing the course of BD as a Test Cricket nation.

My suggestion for home-series was simply because every Team is more confident in home-conditions and can tailor it to suit their bolwers and batsman. Once some level of consistency has been established, slowly ease out of home.
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The problem is that there are enormous gulfs between the different tiers of world cricket:

Tier 1 - Australia

SPACE

Tier 2 - Sri Lanka, England

SPACE

Tier 3 - India, Pakistan, NZ, Sth Africa

SPACE

Tier 4 - WI

SPACE

Tier 5 - BD

SPACE

Tier 6 - Zim

SPACE

Tier 7 - Everyone else

The reasons why OZ are at the top have been discussed at length - professionalism, strong domestic competition, talent, etc. England are getting up there too despite the Ashes debacle. SL are not quite as professional but are on the way and have some very talented players. Then there's a bit of a gulf to the rest.
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Bhaijan, amader shathe ar keu ki test kelbe ....amar khub kosto lagtase je keu ar kelbena amader shathe. Shobai ignore kore last boy ke. amader batsmen aeit je ki korlo ami bujlam na. amader cricket basics nai.
Bhaijaan,

You make my eyes water with your post - i am not good with words to explain what i feel.

Damn if i had the diktat, i'll make every of those Test teams play my beloved team. No one has he rights to ignore my younger brother and no one gets away with that.

BD batsman have all the cricket basics and much more- they just forget it when they play, and especially so against SL. And that makes me sheer mad.
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I suspect one of the major problem with BD team is confidence. I so hope and wish that BD had one that Test against Aussies or the Multan Test - i can guarantee those Tests had the capability of changing the course of BD as a Test Cricket nation.

My suggestion for home-series was simply because every Team is more confident in home-conditions and can tailor it to suit their bolwers and batsman. Once some level of consistency has been established, slowly ease out of home.
This is not true for the BD team. Just look at the double century list against us and you'll get the answer.

BD played quite well in Australia, in stead.
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I understand the feelings. It is very hard to digest these performances.

Are we that bad? We did not have any plan when we had not played a test match in twelve months.Our players did not play some 3/4 day matches to compensate the test matches prior to this tour. But it was really necessary to get them used to the longer version matches but sadly BCB did not bother. I just can't believe that this is the team which played a brilliant test match against the mighty Australians just a year ago.

Technically thinking we made the same mistakes. Javed Omor and Habibul got out in the same fashion, they exactly replayed their shots and got out. Nafees continues to struggle, it doesnt matter whether he recieved a bad decision this time. Ashraful showed why we needed practice matches by playing shots too early. Only Rajin showed some resistance.

After the first test I thought we still need JO and HB but now I am clueless. Even if we drop them who is gonna replace?

It's totally a hopeless situation. Even for an extreme optimist.
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I think this is a mockery of our WC achivements
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I think this is a mockery of our WC achivements
Don't confuse Tests with ODIs.
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As much a painful report it is to read, stripping off the Test-Status is neither the problem nor the solution.

I am also inclined to say that on terms of sheer technique, the team is not as bad as they perform. If New-Zealand is on one end of the extreme (talent Vs Performance ratio), BD seems to be the other extreme.

Maybe the Team needs right message and right direction. 50 Tests and just one-win - Boys, it just won't do.
Just my thought. What we need is the application capability which is surely missing.
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I propose the following option in poll:

Yes, But with a GonoDholai for (BCB & BD Players) following every embarrasing performance.
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