Please Harmer don't hurt 'em ...

RazabQ · #1 August 28, 2007, 01:48 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cric...sh/6965294.stm

Guess what guys and gals. Our next head coach could be someone whose international experience consists of coaching women. Only women! If you go by the Anson Dorrance school of coaching women, then so much for our desire to see a "drill-master" / "tough-love" type of coach.

Rabz · #2 August 28, 2007, 01:54 AM

Im lost for words!
Dont know what to say!

Sohel · #3 August 28, 2007, 01:56 AM

Key word "could be" ... aykhon theke doway mogno ...

BD-Shardul · #4 August 28, 2007, 02:31 AM

You shouldn't laugh even if you see your rival in distress.............I made a lot of fun after Ford's refusal to coach India...........and now Zim got a coach......we didn't .

Rabz · #5 August 28, 2007, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BD-Shardul
You shouldn't laugh even if you see your rival in distress.............I made a lot of fun after Ford's refusal to coach India...........and now Zim got a coach......we didn't .

what goes around, comes around...

rumØrS · #6 August 28, 2007, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BD-Shardul
You shouldn't laugh even if you see your rival in distress.............I made a lot of fun after Ford's refusal to coach India...........and now Zim got a coach......we didn't .

u know i figured that out lik long time ago...its so true..

...

Sauron · #7 August 28, 2007, 10:21 PM

Women's coach ... hmmm. I guess HaBa would have liked it. But given that he is no longer in the team, I'd strongly recommend against it

We'd need even more psycho-therapy for our players.

Rubu · #8 August 29, 2007, 07:41 AM

Stop playing this nonsense BCB. Just get McInnes.

Tigers_eye · #9 August 29, 2007, 07:48 AM

A Coach can't do a lick even if it Siddon or Lillee or Chappels or Bucanon himself. They are not playing the game and almost everything, the future, depends on the domestic structure not coach of the national team. Pat summitt can battle with the dean smiths any day. At least Harmer is not a woman.

Sohel · #10 August 29, 2007, 07:57 AM

Achchha, ei buirha jodi laigga jay, tahoile?

Fahmid · #11 August 29, 2007, 08:00 AM

So what if he coached womans team.....Looking at his record, I think he could bring so much to BD cricket. A biomechanic expert who can be a added value to the BD pacers, A coach who is a great communicator. But my concern is that he is 65 years old and will he have the energy and drive to really put 100%? I would love to see him in BD not as a head coach may be but as a consultant on a regular basis or even as a Accademy coach. My first choice would be Jamie Siddons cos he will have a contemporary style of coaching with fresh ideas and I think BD will really benefit from Siddons than any other coach. He has worked as a assistant coach of Austrailia and he is the best choice.

Miraz · #12 August 29, 2007, 08:22 AM

We need someone with a good cricket brain for the game development manager (someone like Eddie Barlow) and age is not a factor to consider there.

But for the national team coach (considering the age and maturity of our players), we need a tough guy who will be at the same time a "a hard taskmaster" with some good technical knowledge. In this case age matters.

I will be really happy if we end up with Jammie Siddons as our coach, he qualifies in both aspects.

crikss · #13 August 29, 2007, 10:15 AM

after hearing that women factor i think Siddon is much better

Ahmed_B · #14 August 29, 2007, 10:20 AM

Communication disaster? First the sponsorship blunder.. now this coach one! darn!

capslock · #15 August 29, 2007, 10:52 AM

Coaching women is not a bad thing, and I am a bit disappointed that Razab would use phrases such as 'only women', I don't think that's appropriate, but I am sure it was not intentional.

Innate coaching skills are universal applicable whether you're teaching men or women, children or adults. Let's give Harmer a chance before dismissing him based on his coaching constituents.

RazabQ · #16 August 29, 2007, 04:50 PM

As myself:
My "only women" comment was intended to be more a reflection of the pressures and demands of women's international cricket being somewhat less than that of the men's version. You don't have as many media men hounding you if you lose a few, you don't have stadium full of people braying for your blood and millions of dollars riding on the outcome. It is also a reality that the men's game at present requires a little more skill. Finally as my comment on Anson Dorrance was supposed to indicate, the mental aspects of coaching women - from all accounts - is somewhat different from coaching men's sports teams.

I am not trying to be a sexist here - for e.g. I have been doing the lions share of cooking at my house and can talk window treatments with the best of them - merely being pragmatic

Rabz · #17 August 29, 2007, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RazabQ
I am not trying to be a sexist here - for e.g. I have been doing the lions share of cooking at my house

in other words,
a really good cook Razab bhai.

so, dawat kobe?
i'll PM you the menu....

cricketboy · #18 August 29, 2007, 10:55 PM

I hope SIddons or even Houghton gets the nod ahead of him. Houghton would not be a bad choice as he can help Rahim with his keeping abilities too.

Dawah_ · #19 August 29, 2007, 11:05 PM

John Harmer could be a good choice for BD coach. BD coach needs a lot of patience, John Harmer should already have a lot of that since he was coach for ladies

RazabQ · #20 August 30, 2007, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Sydney
in other words,
a really good cook Razab bhai. so, dawat kobe? I'll PM you the menu....

You might be mistaking quantity for quality here. Having said that - you are assuredly most welcome anytime. Give me a few days notice and at the very least I can fire up the bbq

PoorFan · #21 August 30, 2007, 01:15 AM

Then what's wrong with McInnes, he also coached woman team before come to BD as far I know.

Ahmed_B · #22 August 30, 2007, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RazabQ
As myself:
My "only women" comment was intended to be more a reflection of the pressures and demands of women's international cricket being somewhat less than that of the men's version. You don't have as many media men hounding you if you lose a few, you don't have stadium full of people braying for your blood and millions of dollars riding on the outcome. It is also a reality that the men's game at present requires a little more skill. Finally as my comment on Anson Dorrance was supposed to indicate, the mental aspects of coaching women - from all accounts - is somewhat different from coaching men's sports teams.

Could read those 'in-between' lines. Not sure about others though.

djuice · #23 August 30, 2007, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by RazabQ
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cric...sh/6965294.stm

Guess what guys and gals. Our next head coach could be someone whose international experience consists of coaching women. Only women! If you go by the Anson Dorrance school of coaching women, then so much for our desire to see a "drill-master" / "tough-love" type of coach.

Ever watch the movie "Glory road"?
The coach had experiene in coaching girl's team ONLY, before he led his team to win the NCAA the only time in their school's history.
So it is ignorant and arrogant to say that because someone coached a girl's team he is automatically disqualified.

Ahmed_B · #24 August 30, 2007, 10:28 AM

John Harmer has arrived in Dhaka today. On arrival, he mentioned that he doesn't know much about BD players. He watched them play in WC in television.... and knows some more from the 'Internet'. Thats about all.

Fahmid · #25 August 30, 2007, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Ahmed_B
John Harmer has arrived in Dhaka today. On arrival, he mentioned that he doesn't know much about BD players. He watched them play in WC in television.... and knows some more from the 'Internet'. Thats about all.

How th hell do you expect him to know all BD players?? He never coached them before did he?